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And folk, if you are in the US, we probably have like 10-14 hours difference at the moment, so please take it into consideration. Also I am on holidays and may be slow to reply, because I am trying to have some life here. I've worked on the website almost half a year non stop so let me have some rest and I'll get back to it once I am more in a work mode, probably right in the beginning of January.
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@Wylted
That's a naive world view but I am not going to argue, I have no time for that.
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@Wylted
No idea, barely paid any attention to the users.You just read for 2-3 years. Please tell me about your opinion of me during thay time.
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@Wylted
Haha scary, especially when it's already -30C outside :/Winter is coming
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@Wylted
Rude.RM I need your collaboration on a project to figure out just who the fuck this Mike guy is and expose the fuck out of him. Please join my crusade. Unblock me
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@DrChristineFord
Congratulations on creating this amazing site. It's really impressive.Did you ever debate on DDO? Because you spoke about "not losing the spirit we have here" referring to the spirit at DDO being kept at DART. But you have no record of debates on that profile.
Thanks, glad that at least somebody appreciates it here instead of trying to tie me up to some mysteries haha.
No, I suck at debates but I like creating interesting stuff, like this website. I spent a lot of time on DDO just reading stuff, not participating. I barely spoke English even 2-3 years ago...
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bsh1 has already answered some of the questions so I'll just add what what is missing.
Is "Mike" the real name of the site owner, or was that just a conveniently selected pseudonym?
My real name, just its English version, to make it easier for everyone.
What countries do all of the above named people live in (bsh1, Virtuoso, Tejretrics, Castin and the site owner)?
Russia and trust me, I am doing my best to get the hell outta here.
What connection, if any, does this site have with Russia? If none, then why is the domain name registered through a Russian service?
This website is subsidiary of Russian Mafia LLC that was contracted by the Russian government to influence your minds in order to support Trump, obviously.
Why is the history of this site so vague?
I don't know what's vague about it. People like coming up with mysteries, I guess.
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@Raltar
Hi there, I'll reply tomorrow, if I don't forget, I am in Siberia at the moment and it's a middle of the night here.
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@RationalMadman
Hi there, I was waiting till you get unbanned :) I will pm you in a second
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I've been working on a separate mafia section, it may take a while but it can turn out to be something completely unique and interesting, just wait for it :)
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@Vader
Sure, could you please ping any mod regarding it? They have the ability to do that :) I have an insane schedule at the moment and may disappear for long periods ...
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@David
Of course you do, we're not some garbage website :). The only time you don't need to is when I get it from the social network that is used to log in, because in this case I trust that it's already been confirmed.If I recall correctly you don't need to confirm the email address to use your account. This is something that definitely should be looked into.
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@XLAV
Nothing, it's still on the list, it will be there, I promise. I simply try to implement things that are interesting to implement to prevent myself from burning down. I know it sounds selfish but at least I keep myself motivated. Something has got to motivate, if it's not money, then its interest, that's how it works I am afraid.
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@Wylted
Yeah, I will definitely consult with Lunatic :)
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@Mharman
A lot of things could significantly be improved using the mechanics that the website can provide. It would be possible to set exact time periods, rules, some dynamic changes like the length of phases, handle replacements properly and a lot of other things. I think it's worth a shot to try implement something like that.
But it's still just an idea, I wonder if something can come outta it.
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@Vaarka
Thanks, that's really helpful, I've been doing my research today and I think I start seeing the big picture.
I know that group PMs would be handy and we'll have them soon, hopefully.
I am starting working on a separate concept of mafia games, which would be something you'd be able to create just like you create debates but I need to decide what characteristics and options each game must have?
At the moment I can come up with:
- Game name
- Status (collecting players, finished etc)
- Number of players
- Description (not mandatory, only if needed)
- Host (the player that created the game)
- Phase lengths for days and nights (should those be static, should they be dynamic depending on the number of alive players or something like that?)
So what else do we need and how would it work?
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Are you talking about just making a new forum dedicated to only mafia, or thinking about implementing features that make mafia a part of the website? I feel like you mean the latter, since creating a new forum wouldn't require knowledge of the game.
Yeah, it feels like the forum is not exactly the most convenient way to play and a lot of things could be improved so it'd be a separate section of the website :)
Thank you for the overview, it's really helpful!
My idea is that all those moderator and players assignments and management, replacement situations, group chatting and lots of other things could be improved but it'd be handy to have somebody to consult along the way, to make things as flexible and convenient as possible.
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In a forum topic that I recently created asking about new sections on the website, somebody mentioned that a lot of people like the mafia game and it deserves to be something special, so now I am thinking about making it a first class citizen on our website, the only problem is, I know nothing about the game lol
So I wanted to ask somebody to please give me the short overview of how it usually works in our context ( obviously I could check the forum myself but then there is no guarantee I would understand everything correctly so it's just safer to ask ) and to create a Telegram (which is much better than WhatsApp ) group where you could guide me on the specific implementation details, if, of course, you are up for it and confident in your understand of the process :)
Preferably, it'd be nice at least 3-4 people in the group :)
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New changes:
1) Added a simple filtering field for the leaderboards
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@Vader
Yeah, so it wasn't there before and it was hard to track the friend requests, now it's easier :)
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@Vader
Yeah, to get to the new section, you can just click on your profile avatar in the header to trigger the dropdown and then click "Friends", that's the new section.
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@Vader
Added a section to the office where you can manage the friends and the friend requests, it wasnt there before.
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New changes
1) Added "Friends" section to the office section
2) Added a couple of new medals
3) Fixed some minor issues
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@Polytheist-Witch
Yeah, this idea has popped up a few times, we should definitely have both, the team debates and the fast ones, they may be a niche thing but I don't see why not.
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@RationalMadman
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@RationalMadman
I apologize, I didn't realize it sounded rude. I really appreciate your help, don't get me wrong, you suggested some of the best ideas we've had.
What I meant is that we simply don't need any more mods at the moment, since the user base is not that big so it's manageable and the process of assigning and removing mods is not up to me anymore, when or if we have to go through this again, it will be a community's decision, at least to the feasible extent. And also, as I suggested somewhere else, if you have some good ideas, you can just create another topic for them and discuss them with the mods (if it somehow depends on them) and the people here and if most people like it, I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be implemented.
What I meant is that we simply don't need any more mods at the moment, since the user base is not that big so it's manageable and the process of assigning and removing mods is not up to me anymore, when or if we have to go through this again, it will be a community's decision, at least to the feasible extent. And also, as I suggested somewhere else, if you have some good ideas, you can just create another topic for them and discuss them with the mods (if it somehow depends on them) and the people here and if most people like it, I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be implemented.
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@blamonkey
Yeah, hangouts is a tough one but at least we could make it official and put a link to it somewhere in a more visible place.
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@blamonkey
Now that's interesting. Tournaments sounds like a good idea, I will do my research and if we decide to go for it, I will create a new topic for it :)
Also special handling for rap battles and mafia is also a good idea, I will definitely do something in that direction.
Not sure how to help with the hangouts though :(
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@Lunatic
Sure, check out the website's footer :) It's that block on the bottom of every page, there is a button there that takes you to the page that explains the whys and hows
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@thett3
Hey, thanks a lot! I am sorry that we don't yet have any fancy benefits for the Patreons but we'll have something rather soon :)
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@RationalMadman
Thanks for helping!
And I am afraid making you a mod will not add the new sections on the website, more drama yes, new sections - no haha
And I am afraid making you a mod will not add the new sections on the website, more drama yes, new sections - no haha
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@Mharman
Hey, sorry for the long reply, didn't have time before but yeah, RM showed the right message :)
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@Mharman
I have already explained the situation regarding the PMs system in the platform development thread.
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@drafterman
Oh well, I guess we'll see
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@drafterman
Well, I am trying ... But getting donations is not the main priority, I just wanted to cover the expenses in order to save some personal money.
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@Wylted
Learn how to monetize your site. Have a private forum for paying members that is more loosely moderated
I am thinking about simply adding ads at some point, it seems like the only way after all, since nobody wants to donate anyway. And it won't be done for the sake of having personal income, just in order to cover the expenses on this site. I work on it most of my free time and people can't help me to find 30$ per month, which is almost my daily salary, that's just discouraging, if to be honest.
Regarding your idea, I am not sure if it's a good idea, you can check the thread somewhere in this category where I suggested creating private forums (not for the money, but just for the sake of having them), some good points were brought regarding its negative effects. So it's still a controversial topic, I am afraid.
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@RationalMadman
Yeah, that's true, my idea was that someone may wish to share some knowledge on the subject of debating because there is not that much info on the internet and share a link to the article here and there, not only it would be interesting for some people outside of the project but it could also attract some new people, but it's a long shot, I know, but it took me only a few mins so I thought it's better than nothing.You make a Medium blog where there's no reward for typing a ton and where it's extremely vague what we should be writing about let alone the recognition we'd get for posting to a site that few even on this site are going to read
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@Vader
Yeah, I checked it earlier today, I will add them soon :)
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@RationalMadman
Secondly, you need to give motive to do things. You make a Medium blog where there's no reward for typing a ton and where it's extremely vague what we should be writing about let alone the recognition we'd get for posting to a site that few even on this site are going to read. The rewards system of donating, writing and generally being active are next to none and I don't even mean financial reward, I am talking about recognition, glorifying etc.
How do you propose we do that?
Firstly split up debating from rap battling. I want to be the best of both and not accused of being the best debater because I'm the best rap battler. This also matters because you need to hide rap battles from public eye and make it an optional thing to see, it's rude and a bad image for the site. Once you get rid of them from public view, you can completely show off the debates.
A great idea indeed.
Thirdly, there needs to be a huge increase in live debating either over text or on voice, this is something missing on both DI, DDO and the entire Internet in general, edeb8 tried but their community was too tiny to pull it off. We need a proper community where we can debate vocally or live at least via IM text. You don't even need to host it, make a special 'live debate' section where people post the entire text of said conversations or whatever.
I thought about it and I think it may come handy but it would require a lot of development time, I'll try to get to that at some point.
Lastly, you need to emphasise the importance of making catchy debates. This is something Wylted alluded to early on, you need a system where active debates (not by views alone but by actual responses, comments, votes etc) also counting views is a must. People are only motivated to make entertaining debates if they know or see obvious fame as a result. That's why this site has so many fewer debates than DDO even in its inactive, early days. This site has no way to encourage or motivate clickbait titles or mainstream debates. People feel it won't be seen and stay away from it leaving only specialists (MagicAintReal) or noobs who are only there for the hell of it (Type1 for instance) to make debates.
It's a decent point as well but again, some specific propositions would be highly appreciated :)
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@RationalMadman
Thanks for the comment, I will reply a bit later when I have more free time.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Yeah, exactly, I don't want to turn it into DDO 2.0. I like the idea of the debate clubs though, I may do some research on that.Is this gonna be DDO 2.0 or a whole new site. The big issues most people never filled out. Better off doing a debate club where maybe teams of three debate each other on big issues or something.
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I believe some people suggested a few ideas on what it would be interesting to have here, among those things were the big issues, polls and opinions, obviously the same stuff that DDO has. So answering the possible questions: we won't have polls and maybe we'll have big issues and opinions but in some completely different form and that's what this topic is for, to suggest ideas how to improve the already existing formats from the other websites without simply stealing them or propose ideas for the completely new formats.
So, any ideas?
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@RationalMadman
Yeah, but I could improve it at some point, it's a really raw implementation after all.
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@Mharman
I am afraid mentioning via @ doesn't work, it has no effect. Just tell me in a few words how it works? Like the emails, where you have topics and the messages get automatically grouped?
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@RationalMadman
No, once you reject it, the same person will not be able to send you another request only for ... I think 3 days, can't recall the exact number. It's against requests spamming.
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