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I think the system forgives only one forfeit and only if there's more than 3 or 4 rounds in total or something like that, can't check the logic from the mobile.
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@WeaverofFate
Oh, nvm. I only need to wait for the other debate to finish. Saw the subtext. The troll debate should be enough
I am afraid that troll debate won't give you the qualification once the voting is over because you forfeited the round, and the qualification counts only debates without any forfeited arguments from your side 😅
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@Sir.Lancelot
@WeaverofFate
That's cool!
But...
I gotta admit, it sounds like a call to action, but I fail to see what I am supposed to say or do here 😅
But...
I gotta admit, it sounds like a call to action, but I fail to see what I am supposed to say or do here 😅
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@Intelligence_06
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Fixed the forum search, the one for debating is coming soon.
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@Intelligence_06
Can you please elaborate? What do you mean profile pictures not loading?
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@Mikal
Sure, although I don't use it too often. My handle there is @JustMichael#5716
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@n8nrgim
do you think it'd be beneficial to let people know how much the expenses are? that might, or might not, help people raise their contribution. i know another website and forum only costs 800 dollars a year, though of course that's a lot to someone who is struggling.
So to maintain this website properly, I have to pay for a few services, including:
1) Decent virtual private server with a backup service enabled
2) Service for sending emails
3) Service for storing avatars and other files
4) Monitoring service
5) Service for optimizing website's performance and protecting against bot attacks
Further down the road I will also have to pay for a decent logging storage service and also put some money into ads to attract some new people.
I try to save where I can, but it's not always possible, if we do the things the proper way.
That being said, I want to thank you folks for your support and say that I really appreciate it. You are the best community :)
1) Decent virtual private server with a backup service enabled
2) Service for sending emails
3) Service for storing avatars and other files
4) Monitoring service
5) Service for optimizing website's performance and protecting against bot attacks
Further down the road I will also have to pay for a decent logging storage service and also put some money into ads to attract some new people.
I try to save where I can, but it's not always possible, if we do the things the proper way.
That being said, I want to thank you folks for your support and say that I really appreciate it. You are the best community :)
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That's an interesting topic, I wonder if any of you stumbled upon any comprehensive article why the gold standard was not good enough and we had to abandon it?
The main reason I hear is that it couldn't meet the demand for money, but this idea seems kinda shaky to me.
The main reason I hear is that it couldn't meet the demand for money, but this idea seems kinda shaky to me.
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I am sorry that it's taken so long, it shouldn't have, it's fully on me.
But I am back to active development, so if you have some other suggestions that I may have missed, please let me know and I will definitely write them down and consider them asap.
But I am back to active development, so if you have some other suggestions that I may have missed, please let me know and I will definitely write them down and consider them asap.
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@Intelligence_06
The idea behind qualifications is to introduce some kinda sandbox before users can participate in the rated debates. Those are definitely less motivating but the main purpose of the unrated debates is to help a user understand what is what on practice, because there's barely any debating websites like that out there and we have a ton of settings and rules and all that and for a person that doesn't come from DDO, it simply could be overwhelming. Of course, another approach would be to create some kinda guide or wizzard for the website to show what is what but I am afraid I barely have man power for such task, especially considering that we are missing a lot of other more important features. I may drop the requirements for the qualifications though, nothing is set in stone.
When it comes to the search, it's my next goal. Today I finished implementing all the missing profile pages like debate votes and comments, so now I am moving to the search. I am pretty sure it's gonna be ready during next week.
When it comes to the search, it's my next goal. Today I finished implementing all the missing profile pages like debate votes and comments, so now I am moving to the search. I am pretty sure it's gonna be ready during next week.
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@Barney
You can check the changes and please let me know if we have something else that we should consider renaming. 👍🏻
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@TWS1405_2
I also noticed that you couldn't log in using Facebook, it's hopefully fixed now.
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I am finishing with the list of votes on profile pages and then moving straight to the search.
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@Barney
Oh I got it, thanks, I’ll have to look into it, it’s a third party solution so it may take a while to figure it out and implement.
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@Barney
As a matter of fact, thats exactly what I’m working on now: reintroducing the votes page. It is not a copy paste because I want to add some additional info there, but it is quite easy so we can probably expect it today or tomorrow.
And sure, I will make the changes, no problem 👍
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@Mikal
Those are very good points, thanks, I will definitely look into those.
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@Bella3sp
I have no idea about the implementation, I really didn't put any thought into it. I just noticed that they have something similar in World of Warcraft and I figured we might borrow the idea 😁
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@ComputerNerd
Yeah, I think the idea is definitely worth investigating but it ain't gonna be a quick thing, can take a while to implement
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@RationalMadman
This is just an idea atm, maybe it's a terrible one, I don't know. But the "winners" of the season would have some unique and worthy prizes and bonuses and it's not like they would just lose everything and be reset. But the problem is that such system would be rather complex and we'd have a lot of work thinking it through, if we decide to go for it.
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My idea was to introduce the concept of seasons, where the top performers during the season would get some recognition and prizes (no specifics yet) and then the season would be reset. But this is just a idea, I haven't done any proper thinking about it.
Let's get back to it a bit later, now the priority is to get back all the features that disappeared with the update.
Let's get back to it a bit later, now the priority is to get back all the features that disappeared with the update.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Those are very good points, thanks, I will write it down and see what I can do along the way 👌
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@Sir.Lancelot
No worries.I'm just experimenting, identifying new problems with the changes, and pointing them out.
- You can't name a Contender if you create a Rated Debate.
- The option to challenge someone directly is no longer on their profile.
- Rated Debates don't allow you to choose 1 week, 2 week, or 6 month Voting Times.
There might be more that slipped my eye, but these are the new ones I've noticed.
I really appreciate that and I am writing everything down and slowly fix things :)
1) I believe there was some logic for the first point but honestly, I can't recall, maybe it's time to revise it. But it's not a bug, it's intentional.
2) I will add it back at some point, should be a quick fix. Simply forgot to put it back there.
3) It's also intentional, the idea was that the voting shouldn't be too long or too short for rated debates. Kinda like a way to standardize things.
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@Intelligence_06
Default profile icons have changed from symmetrical from the centre to symmetrical to the central vertical axis. Wonder if that is on purpose.
I use a third-party service for generating those and they are supposed to be completely random, maybe they changed something on their side but it's completely out of my control.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Yeah, things may not be in the best shape at the moment but it's going to change, I promise, I have some ideas, the problem is that 2 hours after work is barely enough to deliver stuff as quickly as I'd like.
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@K_Michael
It's still there. I don't use mention nearly as often in debates, so it's much less annoying than the forum side.
Try now.
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@Melcharaz
If I understood the question correctly, then I believe the mods can answer it better.
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@K_Michael
Can you please check if the issue with the autocompletes has been fixed? Apparently it's Firefox not caring about the standards, so it's a bit tricky to fix.
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@RationalMadman
Just give it a bit time bruv, you will see why it’s worth it
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@Barney
I am afraid that was intentional, because the rated debates are now more restricted (not everyone has access to them anymore, and also the params available for selection are different, i.e. rated debates cannot have 2 hours long arguments) and when I was moving the database, it was just much easier to reset all the current debates to standard. It was probably the biggest messed up decision that I had to make.
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@Public-Choice
Very happy to hear, thanks ❤️
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@RationalMadman
Can you elaborate? I need more specifics, I’m afraid. What is the bug and how do I reproduce it?
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@Sir.Lancelot
Oh I get it now, yeah that’s an issue, maybe I will try to implement elastic limit, where the more experienced you are, the higher limit you have. But before that, I’ll probably bump the limit a bit for everyone.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I’m not sure I follow, how come that ten active debates at the same time is not enough?
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@Stephen
Temporarily, it will be back in the coming days
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@Stephen
The edit button for the posts is in the dropdown which you can open by clicking on those three dots in the right top corner. But only during the first thirty mins after the post’s creation.
I will investigate why your private messages may be gone, that shouldn’t have happened.
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@K_Michael
Is there a reason there is an asterisk next to "Text" just below the Mention field?
I added those for the mandatory fields, to make it a bit more clear.
Also as of the new update my browser no longer tries to autofill my password into the Mention field, which is nice. Never submitted a bug report on it but I definitely won't miss that little quirk.
Oh I am sorry mate, that's a tiny bug, you should have pinged me and I would have fixed it real quick.
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@Stephen
Can you please elaborate?
If you want to edit your profile, now you can do it from your "main" profile page, the link is there. And the PMs are available by clicking on the envelope in the top header.
If you want to edit your profile, now you can do it from your "main" profile page, the link is there. And the PMs are available by clicking on the envelope in the top header.
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@ijb1
Let’s give it some time and we can always loosen the requirements for the rated debates. Can you please elaborate about the ui? What did you find confusing?
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@RationalMadman
- In a phone UI for android, you don't get the three bars on top-right turning orange/amber for message notifications, only actual notifications.
On a phone there is this off-canvas menu on the left, which you can open by clicking on the sandwich bar in the top right corner, and the icons are highlighted if there's something new.
- Inside notification settings you actually have to turn them to the opposite of what appears active in order to get them activated and vice versa (orange means off, blank means on if I understood correctly).
Doubled checked it, it seems to be correct.
- Cannot zoom in phone even if one turns on desktop site format in the phone, already told you this but seriously unpleasant for those that may not have perfect eyesight for reading on screens.
That's a tricky one, can you please check the settings of your web browser instead? I believe there was a way, I just don't remember how :/
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@Intelligence_06
Don't worry, everything is going to be back in a matter of 2 weeks, give or take.
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I suggest a test. We could wait to see if this new change leads to new users staying on the site for longer.Right now, the standard is that most new accounts make a debate and then forfeit and leave the site forever or become completely inactive.Hence, we meassure the pool of active users to see if the pool increases or stays the same.
Yeah I know, that sucks, but the inflow of users depends on a lot of things and the design barely matters here, I am afraid. My plan is to get back the old features, polish everything to make it more friendly for people that have no idea what's happening here and then advertise it somehow and that could work.
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@Castin
In the past I enjoyed being able to vote on debates without participating in any. Ah, well.
I will try to find a way to "qualify" people to vote, even if they don't participate in the debates, maybe something like manual qualification for the special members, like yourself :)
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@RationalMadman
ad spam, cannot report it.
Can you please elaborate? There's no button to report things? Or what do you mean?
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@RationalMadman
Some debaters such as Lancelot and myself can handle many debates at once. You banning us from it is unfair.
What do you mean banning you from it? Banning how?
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@RationalMadman
Did wylted direct you to make these changes or is he a liar?Dud you ask us if we were okay with you banning people from creating rated debates if they are new?
Nobody asked me to do anything, it's all on me. My idea and I take full responsibility for it.
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@Skipper_Sr
If Wylted and/or Debateart.com read this, I as a Dartizen want to know the precise reasoning for rated debates becoming restricted for new users.
The voting has been restricted for a while at this point, meaning that only people that have finished some debates can vote. That makes sense since when people start voting, they will know how everything works and what it's like to debate here.
The restriction about the rated debates is a new thing and the reasoning is that rated debates should be something more advanced, meaning fewer forfeits, more serious opponents and etc, and climbing the leaderboard will not be that easy anymore. Also I am thinking about introducing the concept of seasons, but that's a completely different story...
The restriction about the rated debates is a new thing and the reasoning is that rated debates should be something more advanced, meaning fewer forfeits, more serious opponents and etc, and climbing the leaderboard will not be that easy anymore. Also I am thinking about introducing the concept of seasons, but that's a completely different story...
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Don't panic folks, all the old features are going to be back pretty soon, I just deployed the new version a bit ahead so that we can start catching bugs as soon as possible.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Skipper_Sr
Probably all just temporary set backs until everything is rolled out
This, give or take 2 weeks to finish everything and put it back in its place.
I also do not receive notifications when someone comments on my forums unless they have "mentioned" me. That is annoying
Could be a bug, looking into it.
To clarify the situation with the qualifications:
Rated debates are available only to those that have this qualification, which I believe is a good step forward. When you create a new rated debate, if it's available to you, you can still set a minimum required rating, that's still there.
To clarify the situation with the qualifications:
Rated debates are available only to those that have this qualification, which I believe is a good step forward. When you create a new rated debate, if it's available to you, you can still set a minimum required rating, that's still there.
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