It's definitely wordplay as it's a play on words to make them sound alike. Not saying what you're saying is false because it is true but it's definitely wordplay. Also there's electrical engineers and then there's electricians, so technically an engineer can use plugs/wires. Wild how nitpicky you are over my lines but super simple shit that's unable to be deciphered or broken down, you treat it like it's the best in the world but anyways difference of opinion agree to disagree
Thanks for voting. You are right I should've opened stronger. I should've waived first round. I do better letting someone post their argument first and then me responding to it
I also @'ed everyone since its 4 days left of the voting period and I don't wanna lose off of one single vote I want it to be different votes and opinions. Plus I knew for some reason this first vote was gonna pick Con. Just that feeling. Not saying this to be negative just saying I knew it'd happen lol too much like right.
What's the difference between the two? Sorry haven't been on this site in a while. Is it because I started on here again last month so fairly new or what? Does it mean you can't vote on it since it's standard?
What do you mean unrated?
I worked hard in this debate so I want a lot of people to vote, that's why I @'d everyone as I assume they know how to vote.
You can vote against me, just make sure it's fair and aligns with the rules. I don't take votes personally.
It was cool disses but I wouldn't call it god tier wordplay, that's a stretch. He could ghostwrite that for Eminem? Don't disrespect Em. Now I know you really trolling
Only thing decent is
"duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"
that was a decent diss.
"you can suck my dick, but can you duck my sick?" was ass bro it made no sense all he did was switch the d and the s for suck/dick to duck/sick. It's not profound at all or a wow factor. Crazy how much of a lyrical rapper you are, you find that so great lmao but all the fire shit I said which was way better than all the shit he said obviously, you shitted on ofc but my very last bars you finally gave props too. But you like what he said cool, I guess we see things different. I def understand rap quality and I know you do too which is why I'm shocked that what you thought he said was the best thing ever, is what you act like
Great examples of wordplay is my first bars in R2 against Fish:
accent
act since
axe scent
axe sent
Another example of great wordplay in my battle against Lancelot R5:
The technician will be plugging up wires on you like an engineer
When I say I'm on my way, better believe my engine near
Your whole crew will get knocked off if they interfere
I can spot a fraud from afar I can smell their inner fear
engineer/engine near
interfere/inner fear. Now that's god tier wordplay
I know you gonna critique them and say its wack tho but praise someone who says suck my dick
i know you pretty well ever since ddo but im not the type to do personal stuff and dig deep in your info and shit even tho i know this is a battle and we diss eachother, but I agree I prob should've came a bit harder with the disses
Ok sir if you say so. Speedrace clearly raps better than you and he's not even on this site anymore. https://www.debateart.com/debates/1112-rap-battle-part-3
and before you say I lost no, the shit was full of stupid vote bombs...that's all people did a few years ago smh. King_8 was my old account. Me, RM and Lancelot rap circles around you, but least you're confident that's a good thing
Lmao wasn't tryna be a debbie downer or nothing though. I feel like I relate to what he said about the shallow bars. Lemme hush about it though I feel like I'm dragging it 😂 I'm not actually salty but when I talk about it I look salty lmao
"I think people prefer shallower bars with slicker rhyming on this website"
I see where you coming from. I feel the same. People value trash over actual talent. I feel like they be trolling, especially when I was rapping on here back in 2019. Nothing but vote bombs too.
For ex.
You seriously said this was "incredible rhyme-scheme-maintained wordplay."
"you can suck my dick
but can you duck my sick?
duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"
Sorry that shit was so ass. "suck my dick" "duck my sick" huh? throw up my fish? It really made me laugh. Seemed like you were really trolling or hey maybe its your opinion but I couldn't help but think trolling or our past rap battles for your reasoning since we have history of battling eachother. But I'm not tripping or mad especially because I expected the vote from you. But if someone choose you as winner in our battle it makes sense cause you can actually rap. Like I said I'm not mad, if I was I wouldn't give you any props in my vote and I would've chose Lancelot for all 4 categories. No bias stuff.
I can rap anything other than murdering but its all fictional I haven't killed anyone/won't kill anyone its just for raps but I mix it up, I've also rapped about other than murder and shit. As long as you rap something and its creative, makes sense, rhyme, have wordplay, double entendre etc its battle rap. I see you caught the bar, cool. I thought you didn't catch it that's why you thought it was mid but you understood it and thought it was mid which is cool I'll take that 😂
You're nitpicking. I said lyricism. If you wanted to added something different for example you could have said comebacks/metaphors which really wasn't too much of a difference lol but its all good not that deep
Bruh I literally said the same thing as the rules, all Slainte added was "including quality of comebacks and metaphors"
Were you disagreeing with the rules I said just to disagree with them? To be argumentative? Is it because I used Sir Lancelot rules as ideas and the two of you don't like eachother? I don't get it correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm missing something.
Not mad or anything just found that strange. Anyways best of luck
Like I asked you before which still hasn't been answered: What rules do you agree to then? As in multiple criterions instead of single selection? (For example the case of our battle) I took Sir.Lancelot's ideas as voting rules but what rules would you like for the future as multiple criterias? Unless you were just disagreeing for this battle specifically then disregard this question since this was only a winner selection which I didn't realize at first.
To explain the "I rep my city where you drown if you not gonna swim" it basically just means you gotta push through (swim) or else you won't make it (drown). Saying my city is dangerous. I'm from Texas not Pennsyvania. My name is Devon, it isn't named after a city.
This is why I explain my bars in the comments (like I did in our battle) I probably should've done the same thing here. So people won't misunderstand anything or be confused. Another thing, you pointed out a couple times "sounds like a stolen bar/someone else said it." I don't steal bars, I write all my raps. Nothing is stolen. The most I'll do is use my old bars I've said in the past and reuse them.
To explain the "When I say her head fire, it ain't her sex game. It's because her weave flammable"
I wanted to throw a diss in since Pro threw in a few disses. "head fire" "weave flammable"= double entendre. It's actually funny since its just a roast. I never wished for her to be burnt alive though. Her weave being flammable was just me saying her hair is cheap.
"everything Pro has said about Con being gay or transgender seems totally ignored by Con."
I wasn't bothered by all the gay bars/LGBT because it doesn't apply to me. I'm not gay/trans or apart of the LGBT. I didn't care to respond to it, plus if I did it would've taken away from all the material I said. It's rap though so anything goes. You can say anything to diss your opponent even if it isn't true.
Those two examples of you not understanding my bars demonstrates how perhaps you're the one who don't know what puns are (respectfully), because I do. We do have different rapping styles though. Also you claiming I stole bars means that what you thought what I said was fire. Thanks.
I'm not upset at your vote or scores or anything, in fact thanks for your vote and your in depth RFD. I'm surprised you gave me more points than Pro in my 3rd round and I'm surprised you liked my last bars in the 3rd. Tbh I would've simply responded with a simple "Thanks for voting and your in depth RFD" but felt the need to explain my bars and respond to the claim that I'm stealing bars, other than that I'm not salty or anything I promise. Thanks for voting and analyzing. I knew you were gonna pick Pro as the winner.
Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.
No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting. Enjoy the rap battle
Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.
No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting.
I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho | casa means house in spanish. steel = slang for gun
Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho | cheese = slang for money. also double entendre for actual cheese since cheese go on nachos
If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco | beef = slang for drama/issue. also double entendre for ground beef that goes on tacos. shells = slang for bullets
I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo
Well what would you like then as the voting criteria? Also we never agreed to anything so now we can use this opportunity to talk about it. Your comment is kinda confusing. I never said one thing mattered more than the other.
Rhyme scheme = rhymes as in who has better rhymes matter. Of course bars better. Rhymes are bars. Anyways tell me what the criteria should be - although I do believe rhymes, flow and creativity matter. Ready to battle whenever you are. Await R1
Voting rules since this is a rap battle and not the average debate:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative
Nah I'm good. The real debate you had is a big lie. How about every debate you make is a real debate and not a troll debate. Troll debates aren't allowed.
"display a little humility but most of all, a lot of integrity. To date you’ve demonstrated neither to anyone here."
Lol and you think you have? Please
Lmao whatever makes me feel better huh? I should say that to you. What I'm saying is facts. Never once was I shown being prideful. If anything it's you because you can never admit when you're wrong. Humility and integrity? Sorry I don't bow down and kiss someone's ass after I'm blatantly disrespected. I don't have anything to prove anything to you, I don't know you or give a flying fuck about you and you don't know me. You do know this is the internet right? See the difference between me and you is I live in reality, not the internet. I cannot come back on this site anymore starting tomorrow and not give a shit. You live off of this and don't have a life. Debating since '95 huh? A year before I was born. Yikes. You should be the last one talking about humility and integrity when you piss everyone on this website off because your attitude sucks. If you were positive on here then that'd be different.
Sure it wasn't personal. "in no world could you ever prove it" just like you can't ever prove all the lies and bs you've said about me. Like I said I didn't need you to sugarcoat anything but it came off personal. Your tone was rude and condescending but your second RFD was the complete opposite as it was professional. You never gave constructive criticism, please know the difference between that and being flat out disrespectful.
Sorry I got really sidetracked. Not making any excuses. Thanks for the opportunity and great job Bella. I'll do better in the next topic.
It's definitely wordplay as it's a play on words to make them sound alike. Not saying what you're saying is false because it is true but it's definitely wordplay. Also there's electrical engineers and then there's electricians, so technically an engineer can use plugs/wires. Wild how nitpicky you are over my lines but super simple shit that's unable to be deciphered or broken down, you treat it like it's the best in the world but anyways difference of opinion agree to disagree
Thanks for voting. You are right I should've opened stronger. I should've waived first round. I do better letting someone post their argument first and then me responding to it
they're both the same . i see you are saying gender and sex are different , i accept your opinion . agree to disagree
I also @'ed everyone since its 4 days left of the voting period and I don't wanna lose off of one single vote I want it to be different votes and opinions. Plus I knew for some reason this first vote was gonna pick Con. Just that feeling. Not saying this to be negative just saying I knew it'd happen lol too much like right.
And ok try and vote and see what happens ig.
What's the difference between the two? Sorry haven't been on this site in a while. Is it because I started on here again last month so fairly new or what? Does it mean you can't vote on it since it's standard?
Oh ok thanks for letting me know. Alright I won't take it personal then, all good.
What do you mean unrated?
I worked hard in this debate so I want a lot of people to vote, that's why I @'d everyone as I assume they know how to vote.
You can vote against me, just make sure it's fair and aligns with the rules. I don't take votes personally.
Please vote
Please vote
Please vote
It was cool disses but I wouldn't call it god tier wordplay, that's a stretch. He could ghostwrite that for Eminem? Don't disrespect Em. Now I know you really trolling
Only thing decent is
"duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"
that was a decent diss.
"you can suck my dick, but can you duck my sick?" was ass bro it made no sense all he did was switch the d and the s for suck/dick to duck/sick. It's not profound at all or a wow factor. Crazy how much of a lyrical rapper you are, you find that so great lmao but all the fire shit I said which was way better than all the shit he said obviously, you shitted on ofc but my very last bars you finally gave props too. But you like what he said cool, I guess we see things different. I def understand rap quality and I know you do too which is why I'm shocked that what you thought he said was the best thing ever, is what you act like
Great examples of wordplay is my first bars in R2 against Fish:
accent
act since
axe scent
axe sent
Another example of great wordplay in my battle against Lancelot R5:
The technician will be plugging up wires on you like an engineer
When I say I'm on my way, better believe my engine near
Your whole crew will get knocked off if they interfere
I can spot a fraud from afar I can smell their inner fear
engineer/engine near
interfere/inner fear. Now that's god tier wordplay
I know you gonna critique them and say its wack tho but praise someone who says suck my dick
Is this a rap battle
i know you pretty well ever since ddo but im not the type to do personal stuff and dig deep in your info and shit even tho i know this is a battle and we diss eachother, but I agree I prob should've came a bit harder with the disses
Depends. Something can be funny and fire and then there's funny/wack and straight wack >
Ok sir if you say so. Speedrace clearly raps better than you and he's not even on this site anymore. https://www.debateart.com/debates/1112-rap-battle-part-3
and before you say I lost no, the shit was full of stupid vote bombs...that's all people did a few years ago smh. King_8 was my old account. Me, RM and Lancelot rap circles around you, but least you're confident that's a good thing
Lmao wasn't tryna be a debbie downer or nothing though. I feel like I relate to what he said about the shallow bars. Lemme hush about it though I feel like I'm dragging it 😂 I'm not actually salty but when I talk about it I look salty lmao
No prob it was fun voting
"I think people prefer shallower bars with slicker rhyming on this website"
I see where you coming from. I feel the same. People value trash over actual talent. I feel like they be trolling, especially when I was rapping on here back in 2019. Nothing but vote bombs too.
For ex.
You seriously said this was "incredible rhyme-scheme-maintained wordplay."
"you can suck my dick
but can you duck my sick?
duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"
Sorry that shit was so ass. "suck my dick" "duck my sick" huh? throw up my fish? It really made me laugh. Seemed like you were really trolling or hey maybe its your opinion but I couldn't help but think trolling or our past rap battles for your reasoning since we have history of battling eachother. But I'm not tripping or mad especially because I expected the vote from you. But if someone choose you as winner in our battle it makes sense cause you can actually rap. Like I said I'm not mad, if I was I wouldn't give you any props in my vote and I would've chose Lancelot for all 4 categories. No bias stuff.
@RM Ok.
@Lancelot True.
Great battle. I read everything, just waiting on RM final round and I'll vote. Don't forgot to @everyone so they can vote
i originally said:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative
you disagreed
then i used Lancelot's rules:
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
I can rap anything other than murdering but its all fictional I haven't killed anyone/won't kill anyone its just for raps but I mix it up, I've also rapped about other than murder and shit. As long as you rap something and its creative, makes sense, rhyme, have wordplay, double entendre etc its battle rap. I see you caught the bar, cool. I thought you didn't catch it that's why you thought it was mid but you understood it and thought it was mid which is cool I'll take that 😂
You're nitpicking. I said lyricism. If you wanted to added something different for example you could have said comebacks/metaphors which really wasn't too much of a difference lol but its all good not that deep
I'm glad you do
Bruh I literally said the same thing as the rules, all Slainte added was "including quality of comebacks and metaphors"
Were you disagreeing with the rules I said just to disagree with them? To be argumentative? Is it because I used Sir Lancelot rules as ideas and the two of you don't like eachother? I don't get it correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm missing something.
Not mad or anything just found that strange. Anyways best of luck
@RM
"Reflection of your dad so I throw shots and blow pop cause he a sucker too"
blow pop = shoot your pops
"cause he a sucker too"
blow pop is also a sucker
double entendre which I think also went over your head
Okay which rules would you like the voters to vote in each fashion:
Arg: ?
Sources: ?
S&G: ?
Conduct: ?
Likewise
Sorry I didn't realize it was winner selection. So disregard the voting rules. Just choose the winner who you think did better.
Sorry I didn't realize it was winner selection. So disregard the voting rules. Just choose the winner who you think did better.
Like I asked you before which still hasn't been answered: What rules do you agree to then? As in multiple criterions instead of single selection? (For example the case of our battle) I took Sir.Lancelot's ideas as voting rules but what rules would you like for the future as multiple criterias? Unless you were just disagreeing for this battle specifically then disregard this question since this was only a winner selection which I didn't realize at first.
To explain the "I rep my city where you drown if you not gonna swim" it basically just means you gotta push through (swim) or else you won't make it (drown). Saying my city is dangerous. I'm from Texas not Pennsyvania. My name is Devon, it isn't named after a city.
This is why I explain my bars in the comments (like I did in our battle) I probably should've done the same thing here. So people won't misunderstand anything or be confused. Another thing, you pointed out a couple times "sounds like a stolen bar/someone else said it." I don't steal bars, I write all my raps. Nothing is stolen. The most I'll do is use my old bars I've said in the past and reuse them.
To explain the "When I say her head fire, it ain't her sex game. It's because her weave flammable"
I wanted to throw a diss in since Pro threw in a few disses. "head fire" "weave flammable"= double entendre. It's actually funny since its just a roast. I never wished for her to be burnt alive though. Her weave being flammable was just me saying her hair is cheap.
"everything Pro has said about Con being gay or transgender seems totally ignored by Con."
I wasn't bothered by all the gay bars/LGBT because it doesn't apply to me. I'm not gay/trans or apart of the LGBT. I didn't care to respond to it, plus if I did it would've taken away from all the material I said. It's rap though so anything goes. You can say anything to diss your opponent even if it isn't true.
Those two examples of you not understanding my bars demonstrates how perhaps you're the one who don't know what puns are (respectfully), because I do. We do have different rapping styles though. Also you claiming I stole bars means that what you thought what I said was fire. Thanks.
I'm not upset at your vote or scores or anything, in fact thanks for your vote and your in depth RFD. I'm surprised you gave me more points than Pro in my 3rd round and I'm surprised you liked my last bars in the 3rd. Tbh I would've simply responded with a simple "Thanks for voting and your in depth RFD" but felt the need to explain my bars and respond to the claim that I'm stealing bars, other than that I'm not salty or anything I promise. Thanks for voting and analyzing. I knew you were gonna pick Pro as the winner.
Voting rules below
Please vote in this fashion:
Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.
No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting. Enjoy the rap battle
Don't forget to vote (Rules below on comment #25)
Can you make another debate like this and challenge me
thank you 🔥
(read below)
Please vote in this fashion, enjoy the battle:
Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.
No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting.
R3 bars explanation:
If I ain't got it, I'll reach for your gun, like I like the steel (to steal)
The steel/To steal = wordplay/double entendre
True, you're right. I'm gonna figure out something else for the voting criteria.
R2 bars explanation:
Spanish scheme for the words that are bolded
I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho | casa means house in spanish. steel = slang for gun
Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho | cheese = slang for money. also double entendre for actual cheese since cheese go on nachos
If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco | beef = slang for drama/issue. also double entendre for ground beef that goes on tacos. shells = slang for bullets
I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo
R1 bars explanation:
Got a gangster aura, wherever I'm at most fear (atmosphere)
Well what would you like then as the voting criteria? Also we never agreed to anything so now we can use this opportunity to talk about it. Your comment is kinda confusing. I never said one thing mattered more than the other.
Rhyme scheme = rhymes as in who has better rhymes matter. Of course bars better. Rhymes are bars. Anyways tell me what the criteria should be - although I do believe rhymes, flow and creativity matter. Ready to battle whenever you are. Await R1
Voting rules since this is a rap battle and not the average debate:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative
bump
Nah I'm good. The real debate you had is a big lie. How about every debate you make is a real debate and not a troll debate. Troll debates aren't allowed.
"display a little humility but most of all, a lot of integrity. To date you’ve demonstrated neither to anyone here."
Lol and you think you have? Please
Lmao whatever makes me feel better huh? I should say that to you. What I'm saying is facts. Never once was I shown being prideful. If anything it's you because you can never admit when you're wrong. Humility and integrity? Sorry I don't bow down and kiss someone's ass after I'm blatantly disrespected. I don't have anything to prove anything to you, I don't know you or give a flying fuck about you and you don't know me. You do know this is the internet right? See the difference between me and you is I live in reality, not the internet. I cannot come back on this site anymore starting tomorrow and not give a shit. You live off of this and don't have a life. Debating since '95 huh? A year before I was born. Yikes. You should be the last one talking about humility and integrity when you piss everyone on this website off because your attitude sucks. If you were positive on here then that'd be different.
Sure it wasn't personal. "in no world could you ever prove it" just like you can't ever prove all the lies and bs you've said about me. Like I said I didn't need you to sugarcoat anything but it came off personal. Your tone was rude and condescending but your second RFD was the complete opposite as it was professional. You never gave constructive criticism, please know the difference between that and being flat out disrespectful.