RM vs Devon rap battle.

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Publication date: 06.19.2023 03:58AM
Last updated date: 07.16.2023 01:48AM
Type: Rated
Number of rounds: 4
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 4,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open
Minimal rating: None

Contender / Con

1482

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debates

41.67%

won

Description

Only Devon can accept.

If you are not Devon and accept, you consent to me urinating on the love of your life.

Round 1

06.22.2023 05:50PM

Pro

Post this rap last-second, I procrastinate,

Fuck his fiance once she's a wife already, way past the date,

I'm sorry to all onlookers that you had to wait,

I just struggle to come prematurely, I'm used to doin' this alone like when I masturbate,

This type1-wannabe meets king8 and they produce a new age Demon with v instead of m like I'm more magic and he's more vag, why hate?

I get this Diva shakin' her Devilish ass as I rap so passive it could fascinate,

Why attack before this pussy tells me how she wants me to go gentle so her back don't break?

I don't know what this punk thought's comin' but I'll spit this cunt's juices on the page after I masticate,

I aint here to just salivate and dribble, I'm here to break the head of my opponent open as the audience screams and I attack his brain in a way that scars the crowd as much it captivates,

I'm the OG round here this new bitch-ass account aint even half mine's age,

Type1, King8 both banned, Supadudz gone, anyone who fucks with me in the arena can't outmatch the fate.

06.22.2023 06:30PM

Con

Here we go again, Devon up against another dumb bitch

My hunger for these wins is the only reason for this dumb shit

But I've come with some tips to give all of y'all a little clarity

I hand out donations to the little people, I'm all about the charity

You better watch your back or it's off with your head today

Time to clean house get these frauds out, it's time to renovate

Put my kills heads on the wall, that's how I decorate

From here on you bout to get smoked into a veggie state

Whether you like me or not, you better act sincere

50 dudes jump on you like they smell Axe in here

Told em if they see Madman posted, let the bullets air

Got a gangster aura, wherever I'm at most fear

Lightest round

Round 2

06.22.2023 06:59PM

Pro

Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lJPNUQVyfQ

Those dumb bitches you battled got 0 voters per battle,

I merely set this up and one of those very dumb bitches licks your boots after making it clear that me challenging you before him has him rattled,

He's a toxic little cretin type to lie as he tries tattles,

So kindly get your head in the zone here, I'm a tiger, they're cattle,

I'm at most the bull the impregnates them, I'm the breeder, you cucky cluck-cluck feathered-asshole,

This is charity, I'm letting you prove you're anything here, so thank me as each bar hits like a paddle.

You talk about decoration, I've got more medals on this account than you and your other combined,

Bronze-tier site member with a dirt-tier mind,

I'm the daddy you aint met yet, I don't mean because you're blind,

I'm the one your girlfriend cheats with as you eat out what's left behind,

You aint even in a league to say your wall of achievement's is a shrine,

Your wall has 1 achievement only, showing up for a beating that your own mother's not gonna cry but scold you for the bill of, but just remind her I'm your daddy so the expense is all mine.

06.22.2023 11:52PM

Con

0 votes per battle? Damn I guess that's how the game goes

Had there been any votes I bet you I would've won those

Dissing my homie Sir. Lancelot? Poor baby, I guess your ego is bruised

Your middle school bars put me to sleep. Like SZA, I'm about to snooze

This was my only account you need to know the difference

I'm bout to push you out the way, you're only a hinderance

You delusional and there's something you need to realize realize

I'm the real deal and you not so let me chop you down to size

Bragging about the wins you got? Good for you and your 500+ debates, nice try son

Guess what? I got a life outside this website, perhaps you should try getting one

We had words once and everything you say is predictable, even now. So transparent; see through

For all the people who seen our battle before, motherf*ckers that was just a preview

I'm bout to kill you, get ready to drug again, no relapsing

I got so much shit I got to say, I'll have you collapsing

I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho

Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho

If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco

I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo

My connect Mexican but I vibe with the cartel

Hustling is something that was handed when the cards dealt

Where your gun at? Wait, you aint never shot shit

Drama ding dong I'm at your door bout to pop shit

Big gun, long nose, elephant man

You gone get the message quick like a telegram ran

Get fly stay higher than a pelican can

But these metal cans blam, you the sleep sandman

Round 3

06.25.2023 11:41PM

Pro

Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_SOHharPGQ

I aint got a clue what the fuck I read, scum,

One minute Lancelot's your best chum's called a bitch that's dumb,

You keep spitting how you'll fire some shit out of a gun,

Only reason you aint in prison for the threat is every cop know you's a punk and your shot's a cum-based pun,

You got more aim in the chode your ex told me 'bout, shit's shaped like a thumb,

Than in your index finger on the trigger, Devon, feel the salty sweat pellets run,

They lubricate your hand and I don't mean the way that's fun,

I'll walk right up to you shaking, break your face in, pour gasoline and you burn bright as a star, sun(son).

You gonna eat a ton of nachos 'cause you're fat and obese,

This is slippery flow here, I syllable-slide with such ease,

You aint on par with my lyrics, aint spat a bar this diseased,

I got covid on my fingertips, receive this metaphor-sneeze,

You're talkin' beef watch madman turn mad cow as a GOAT with rabies,

I barbequed you verse 1, son, let's give that ketchup a squeeze.

06.26.2023 02:31AM

Con

You facing me again Madman? You bout to be in some deep trouble

Lancelot about take my place to kill you next, that's a stunt double

The bullets from my pistol will have you broke up like a bad couple

You think you leaving with a W? Well sorry to burst your bubble

I'm laughing how this lame be acting I'm twice as real

If I ain't got it, I'll reach for your gun, like I like the steel (to steal)

Y'all like that ignorant shit, but I'm righteous still

The left keep the piece but b*tch I got a right to kill

I dig deep in his mind and drive him nuts, this is psychological

But I'm insane in my membrane, they ask "How is this psycho logical?"

The irony; how's your name Rational when you're illogical

Keep acting tough, I'll break you down to a particule

This dude is entertainment, I can knock off a unit and drop walls

My whole team strapped with the surround sound off

He gone push my buttons till I point, the release gone have my arm jerkin'

Like I'm tryna change the channel when the remote not workin'

Round 4

06.29.2023 02:25AM

Pro

Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jsnBEdTEpo

Understand me, Devon, aint nothin' here about you,

People who will vote your way wanna spite me like the Nazis do a proud Jew,

You can type a pathetic final Round now, the crowd'll let your bow too,

You're the one who's gotta tryhard every round, dude,

I'm the one that starts typin' 15 mins before deadline; I'm allowed to.

You talk about a gun every rap you've been in, who you kiddin'?

I'll do more with a knife in a kitchen, leave you bleedin, twitchin' and bitchin' 'bout how you were gonna win if I just didn't slice quite so precise; sore loser failed his mission,

You diss me for my username 'cause you know that if you diss deeper, I'll go fishin',

Dig deep into your trauma from age 7 when your uncle got to fiddlin',

You're a wannabe and honestly It's an abortion that I've written,

You aint even a baby to this site, D, can't diss a fetus for not defending itself against its riddance.

07.02.2023 01:48AM

Con

One thing about me is I'm not afraid to be myself

I put it all on the table, I just play the hand I was dealt

So f*ck a 16, this bout to be a crazy 8, I'm on the prowl smooth

Oh you scared? Well don't renig now, that's a foul move

What's the deal? Let's play poker I'll show you what I'll do

If you get crazy I'm no joker I get wild too

Play your cards right cause one wrong move, they gone be like "Oh sh*t!"

And this is like a game of spades and when I cut you, cause this is where the flow switch

Trying to expose the king with them tired angles? They won't jack that old sh*t

You gone try and pull a card I ain't got, go fish

My wordplay is out of this world, but yours is simply not

In this battle you need to prove yourself, this the shot clock

You can get the whole cartridge, this when the game stop

Switch blade through your mid-section, that's a crop top

You really think you can beat me? I'm aggravated

I'm undeniably authentic, and my G is validated

I swear to tell the whole truth like an affidavit

Another W for me, Ima get off like I masturbated

07.03.2023 07:44PM

#47

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@RationalMadman

i know you pretty well ever since ddo but im not the type to do personal stuff and dig deep in your info and shit even tho i know this is a battle and we diss eachother, but I agree I prob should've came a bit harder with the disses

Slainte

07.03.2023 02:44AM

#46

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@RationalMadman

Thank you for the kind words. I also appreciate your openess to others skills and abilities. Debates would be more fruitfull if that theme pulsed through the ego stretched veins of participants.

07.03.2023 01:59AM

#45

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@Slainte

Wow, thank you. I take on board the parts where you say Devon was better too. I actually agree with a lot of what you said, I would vote me here to a similar degree, Devon's Round 4 was impressive to me but very forced/dull to you, I think Devon didn't properly look through my post history or anything at all to land a single personal on me other than about my username. It's also why I began to just keep digging as there wasn't much to even 'comeback' about by the ending.

07.03.2023 12:09AM

#44

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@RationalMadman

@Sir.Lancelot

@RM Ok.
@Lancelot True.

07.02.2023 11:46PM

#43

Rational's mistake was not making a clear voting setup in the description and consulting it with Devon beforehand, so now people are free to vote however they choose.

Since most rap battles are Winner Selection anyway and Rated doesn't allow for that, the rule should've been to assign all 7 points to whoever the winner is without having points of the Multiple Point System represent certain categories.

That said, voters should've been required to analyze the Lyricism, Flow, Rhyme, and Disses in their RFD.
If either side wins, it has nothing to do with who rapped better. It has everything to do with not establishing rules for voting.

07.02.2023 11:42PM

#42

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@Devon

I agree to Slainte's. Not those 2.

07.02.2023 11:35PM

#41

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@RationalMadman

i originally said:

Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative

you disagreed

then i used Lancelot's rules:

Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative

07.02.2023 11:28PM

#40

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@Devon

Where did you say that instead of just rhyming?

07.02.2023 11:01PM

#39

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@RationalMadman

You're nitpicking. I said lyricism. If you wanted to added something different for example you could have said comebacks/metaphors which really wasn't too much of a difference lol but its all good not that deep

07.02.2023 10:55PM

#38

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@Devon

Arguments: Better lyricism, including quality of comebacks and metaphors

This was never in your system

07.02.2023 10:54PM

#37

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@Devon

What did you say Arguments should be?

07.02.2023 08:37PM

#36

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@RationalMadman

Bruh I literally said the same thing as the rules, all Slainte added was "including quality of comebacks and metaphors"
Were you disagreeing with the rules I said just to disagree with them? To be argumentative? Is it because I used Sir Lancelot rules as ideas and the two of you don't like eachother? I don't get it correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm missing something.
Not mad or anything just found that strange. Anyways best of luck

07.02.2023 08:30PM

#35

I'll start voting on this then.

07.02.2023 08:24PM

#34

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@Slainte

Ok i agree to that system

07.02.2023 07:52PM

#33

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@RationalMadman

Okay which rules would you like the voters to vote in each fashion:
Arg: ?
Sources: ?
S&G: ?
Conduct: ?

Slainte

07.02.2023 06:42PM

#32

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@RationalMadman

@Devon

Arguments: Better lyricism, including quality of comebacks and metaphors
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative

I will vote the above way you like. I have read it twice there is some quality on both sides. Winner is very clear to me.

07.02.2023 06:04PM

#31

While votes are technically unregulated, I'd rather both rappers agree on a voting criteria.

For instance, do I analyze who did better in certain areas and assign all 7 points to the winner or do certain parts of the Multiple Points represent like lyricism, comebacks..

I have my own idea for a voting framework, but so as not to undermine the integrity of voting, I need both participants to establish their preferences.

07.02.2023 04:24PM

#30

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@Slainte

I don't agree to the rules, you need to factor in quality of comebacks and metaphors.

07.02.2023 04:09PM

#29

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@Slainte

Don't forget to vote (Rules below on comment #25)

07.02.2023 10:02AM

#28

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@FishChaser

Why did you give me 1 instead of 2 and why do you say neither had flow?

07.02.2023 01:56AM

#27

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@RationalMadman

thank you 🔥

07.02.2023 01:56AM

#26

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@Savant

(read below)

07.02.2023 01:55AM

#25

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@Sir.Lancelot

@WeaverofFate

@hey-yo

@DavidAZ

@FishChaser

Please vote in this fashion, enjoy the battle:

Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.

No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting.

07.02.2023 01:50AM

#24

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@Devon

I liked your Round 4 a lot more than other Rounds.

Good job stepping up your rapping.

06.29.2023 02:56AM

#23

https://www.debateart.com/debates/4604-rap-battle-sirlancelot-vs-rationalmadman

My turn. 🙂

06.29.2023 02:26AM

#22

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@Sir.Lancelot

@WeaverofFate

@Bella3sp

@DavidAZ

@FishChaser

Rap's done, please vote.

06.26.2023 02:34AM

#21

R3 bars explanation:

If I ain't got it, I'll reach for your gun, like I like the steel (to steal)

The steel/To steal = wordplay/double entendre

06.25.2023 09:34PM

#20

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@Bella3sp

True, you're right. I'm gonna figure out something else for the voting criteria.

Bella3sp

06.24.2023 03:03AM

#19

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@Devon

Flow and rhyme scheme are quite similar and quite often used in an interchangeable manner. (I still believe there is a small distinction between the two but, yeah).

Maybe it would be better as delivery quality.

06.24.2023 01:57AM

#18

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@Devon

Set up whatever voting criteria you decide on for this rap battle.

Rational seems to follow your commands like an obedient bitch.
Shouldn't be too difficult.

DavidAZ

06.23.2023 12:03AM

#17

Good round 4

06.23.2023 12:01AM

#16

R2 bars explanation:

Spanish scheme for the words that are bolded

I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho | casa means house in spanish. steel = slang for gun
Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho | cheese = slang for money. also double entendre for actual cheese since cheese go on nachos
If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco | beef = slang for drama/issue. also double entendre for ground beef that goes on tacos. shells = slang for bullets
I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo

06.22.2023 08:17PM

#15

"Those dumb bitches you battled got 0 voters per battle,
I merely set this up and one of those very dumb bitches licks your boots after making it clear that me challenging you before him has him rattled,
He's a toxic little cretin type to lie as he tries tattles,
So kindly get your head in the zone here, I'm a tiger, they're cattle,
I'm at most the bull the impregnates them, I'm the breeder, you cucky cluck-cluck feathered-asshole,
This is charity, I'm letting you prove you're anything here, so thank me as each bar hits like a paddle."

😂😂😂
Still waiting on that challenge, big man.
Or is the best you can do is throw shade and cry about me in dms?

Pathetic.

06.22.2023 06:31PM

#14

R1 bars explanation:

Got a gangster aura, wherever I'm at most fear (atmosphere)

06.22.2023 02:56AM

#13

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@RationalMadman

Well what would you like then as the voting criteria? Also we never agreed to anything so now we can use this opportunity to talk about it. Your comment is kinda confusing. I never said one thing mattered more than the other.
Rhyme scheme = rhymes as in who has better rhymes matter. Of course bars better. Rhymes are bars. Anyways tell me what the criteria should be - although I do believe rhymes, flow and creativity matter. Ready to battle whenever you are. Await R1

06.21.2023 10:33AM

#12

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@Devon

We never agreed on such nonsense. Why would rhyme scheme matter more than the actual bars and insults especially if after rhyme scheme is flow?

Bella3sp

06.20.2023 06:20PM

#11

This time ill vote, now that your back.

06.20.2023 12:25AM

#10

Voting rules since this is a rap battle and not the average debate:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative

06.19.2023 02:44PM

Will them agreeing with me make you more unhappy?

06.19.2023 12:24PM

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@Devon

Also. Thanks for staying btw

06.19.2023 12:17PM

*"Ask any of the current users how they feel about me and see if any of them agree with you.:

WeaverofFate, Bella3sp, Savant, Slainte, Mps1213, Devon, SkepticalOne, Public-Choice, AustinL, Sidewalker, Lemming."

06.19.2023 12:03PM

Now before you say anything else.
I only want to know, do you want that rap battle or not?

Keep in mind, you mentioned it first.

06.19.2023 11:59AM

With the exception of you, IWantRooseveltAgain, and badger, I'm on good terms with everyone here.

Including Devon, the one you're currently challenging.
Devon was ready to leave the site because he didn't want other people's drama and bs, and I personally talked him into staying and ignoring everyone else.
I also talked Bella3sp from leaving the site because I knew she contributed a lot.
Me and Mps (The guy you fought with on his first day.) had a temporary beef, but we resolved that.

I criticized Wylted for being partly responsible for the site's failure because he's deliberately choosing to step down and I'm currently clowning the site's current president Badger.
I criticized Mike, the site owner, for not actively leading his community.
I also like TWS1405, but I did call him a Karen.

Now you want to call me vile, a sociopath. Toxic to other users or whatever bs. Fine
Feel free to characterize me however you want, but ask any of the current users how they feel about me and see if any of them agree with you.:

WeaverofFate, Bella3sp, Savant, Slainte, Mps1213, Devon, SkepticalOne, Public-Choice, AustinL, Sidewalker.

06.19.2023 11:15AM

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@Sir.Lancelot

You are a very unhappy person. I have come to realise that.

While I was gone, the only positive thing you said about any user was bootlicking the mods and president. Everything else was nasty and provocative to aggravate others and ruin their confidence.

The only non-shallow, non-toxic thing that you contribute to this website is your debating and maybe the tournament. You even tried to directly, not indirectly, poach members from here to your new platform.

06.19.2023 09:19AM

So much for that big talk, huh?
Just as I’ve called you before.

Spineless.

hey-yo

06.19.2023 04:17AM

Yay

Savant

06.19.2023 04:04AM

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@RationalMadman

Glad to see you back! Any chance you'll be sticking around awhile?

Slainte

07.03.2023 01:37AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Arguments: Better lyricism, including quality of comebacks and metaphors (3)
R1: RM. Lyricism and metaphors. "so her back don't break?" and " juices on the page after I masticate," All followed a theme. Devon's theme was broken in the opening round.
R2: Devon. "o let me chop you down to size", and "perhaps you should try getting one"
R3: RM: A great round. RM really goes at Devon, and ties that theme from the first round into it. There is continuity here.
R4: RM. The comebacks were really weak for Devon, The lyricism for RM was very good. Something was just contrived and forced about Devon.

Sources: Better flow (2)
R1: Devon, The tempo is good, and constructed fairly well. It certainly reads easier as a first read. RM's can read very well if you read it a few times.
R2: Devon, same style as above.
R3: Tie, again easier to read Devon the first time, however, this was a much better round for RM, and if you read it twice you can get the rhythm.
R4: Devon, by a hair. RM is better when read a few times, and with the beat music. As a judge I don't want to have to practice to make it sound better.

Spelling & Grammar: Better disses (1)
R1: RM, went at Devon. Devon did not directly attack RM.
R2: RM, "I'm the one your girlfriend cheats with as you eat out what's left behind," <--- quality
R3: RM is on offence. Devon is not Offence is the key to a diss.
R4: RM, again offence is king. The card-playing analogy is pretty weak considering the huge diss's that RM put out.

Conduct: Which opponent was more creative (1)
R1: RM, This is a little overlap with the argument. Creativity can still have structure, and Devon's did not have it.
R2: RM, as RM really was using sources to support the claims. That is pretty creative and impressive.
R3: RM as RM is really stitching the theme together. The theme from Devon being gun-based, and gangsta just seems contrived
R4: RM, just kept the theme together, with better vocabulary diversity.

R1: RM. 5:2
R2: Devon: 5:2
R3: RM: 7:2
R4: RM: 5:2

General Impressions:

RM had better overall diss quality, material, word choice, sources, and passion. Devon appears passive, defensive, and trying to rap like a nursery rhyme.
RM won all rounds in accordance with the agreed evaluation criteria, all of it being in my opinion.