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Topic
#4595
RM vs Devon rap battle.
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 4 votes and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...
RationalMadman
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Rated
- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 4,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
- Minimal rating
- None
Contender / Con
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Description
Only Devon can accept.
If you are not Devon and accept, you consent to me urinating on the love of your life.
Round 1
Post this rap last-second, I procrastinate,
Fuck his fiance once she's a wife already, way past the date,
I'm sorry to all onlookers that you had to wait,
I just struggle to come prematurely, I'm used to doin' this alone like when I masturbate,
This type1-wannabe meets king8 and they produce a new age Demon with v instead of m like I'm more magic and he's more vag, why hate?
I get this Diva shakin' her Devilish ass as I rap so passive it could fascinate,
Why attack before this pussy tells me how she wants me to go gentle so her back don't break?
I don't know what this punk thought's comin' but I'll spit this cunt's juices on the page after I masticate,
I aint here to just salivate and dribble, I'm here to break the head of my opponent open as the audience screams and I attack his brain in a way that scars the crowd as much it captivates,
I'm the OG round here this new bitch-ass account aint even half mine's age,
Type1, King8 both banned, Supadudz gone, anyone who fucks with me in the arena can't outmatch the fate.
Here we go again, Devon up against another dumb bitch
My hunger for these wins is the only reason for this dumb shit
But I've come with some tips to give all of y'all a little clarity
I hand out donations to the little people, I'm all about the charity
You better watch your back or it's off with your head today
Time to clean house get these frauds out, it's time to renovate
Put my kills heads on the wall, that's how I decorate
From here on you bout to get smoked into a veggie state
Whether you like me or not, you better act sincere
50 dudes jump on you like they smell Axe in here
Told em if they see Madman posted, let the bullets air
Got a gangster aura, wherever I'm at most fear
Lightest round
Round 2
Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lJPNUQVyfQ
I merely set this up and one of those very dumb bitches licks your boots after making it clear that me challenging you before him has him rattled,
He's a toxic little cretin type to lie as he tries tattles,
So kindly get your head in the zone here, I'm a tiger, they're cattle,
I'm at most the bull the impregnates them, I'm the breeder, you cucky cluck-cluck feathered-asshole,
This is charity, I'm letting you prove you're anything here, so thank me as each bar hits like a paddle.
You talk about decoration, I've got more medals on this account than you and your other combined,
Bronze-tier site member with a dirt-tier mind,
I'm the daddy you aint met yet, I don't mean because you're blind,
I'm the one your girlfriend cheats with as you eat out what's left behind,
You aint even in a league to say your wall of achievement's is a shrine,
Your wall has 1 achievement only, showing up for a beating that your own mother's not gonna cry but scold you for the bill of, but just remind her I'm your daddy so the expense is all mine.
0 votes per battle? Damn I guess that's how the game goes
Had there been any votes I bet you I would've won those
Dissing my homie Sir. Lancelot? Poor baby, I guess your ego is bruised
Your middle school bars put me to sleep. Like SZA, I'm about to snooze
This was my only account you need to know the difference
I'm bout to push you out the way, you're only a hinderance
You delusional and there's something you need to realize realize
I'm the real deal and you not so let me chop you down to size
Bragging about the wins you got? Good for you and your 500+ debates, nice try son
Guess what? I got a life outside this website, perhaps you should try getting one
We had words once and everything you say is predictable, even now. So transparent; see through
For all the people who seen our battle before, motherf*ckers that was just a preview
I'm bout to kill you, get ready to drug again, no relapsing
I got so much shit I got to say, I'll have you collapsing
I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho
Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho
If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco
I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo
My connect Mexican but I vibe with the cartel
Hustling is something that was handed when the cards dealt
Where your gun at? Wait, you aint never shot shit
Drama ding dong I'm at your door bout to pop shit
Big gun, long nose, elephant man
You gone get the message quick like a telegram ran
Get fly stay higher than a pelican can
But these metal cans blam, you the sleep sandman
Round 3
Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_SOHharPGQ
I aint got a clue what the fuck I read, scum,
One minute Lancelot's your best chum's called a bitch that's dumb,
You keep spitting how you'll fire some shit out of a gun,
Only reason you aint in prison for the threat is every cop know you's a punk and your shot's a cum-based pun,
You got more aim in the chode your ex told me 'bout, shit's shaped like a thumb,
Than in your index finger on the trigger, Devon, feel the salty sweat pellets run,
They lubricate your hand and I don't mean the way that's fun,
I'll walk right up to you shaking, break your face in, pour gasoline and you burn bright as a star, sun(son).
You gonna eat a ton of nachos 'cause you're fat and obese,
This is slippery flow here, I syllable-slide with such ease,
You aint on par with my lyrics, aint spat a bar this diseased,
I got covid on my fingertips, receive this metaphor-sneeze,
You're talkin' beef watch madman turn mad cow as a GOAT with rabies,
I barbequed you verse 1, son, let's give that ketchup a squeeze.
You facing me again Madman? You bout to be in some deep trouble
Lancelot about take my place to kill you next, that's a stunt double
The bullets from my pistol will have you broke up like a bad couple
You think you leaving with a W? Well sorry to burst your bubble
I'm laughing how this lame be acting I'm twice as real
If I ain't got it, I'll reach for your gun, like I like the steel (to steal)
Y'all like that ignorant shit, but I'm righteous still
The left keep the piece but b*tch I got a right to kill
I dig deep in his mind and drive him nuts, this is psychological
But I'm insane in my membrane, they ask "How is this psycho logical?"
The irony; how's your name Rational when you're illogical
Keep acting tough, I'll break you down to a particule
This dude is entertainment, I can knock off a unit and drop walls
My whole team strapped with the surround sound off
He gone push my buttons till I point, the release gone have my arm jerkin'
Like I'm tryna change the channel when the remote not workin'
Round 4
Beat to Loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jsnBEdTEpo
Understand me, Devon, aint nothin' here about you,
People who will vote your way wanna spite me like the Nazis do a proud Jew,
You can type a pathetic final Round now, the crowd'll let your bow too,
You're the one who's gotta tryhard every round, dude,
I'm the one that starts typin' 15 mins before deadline; I'm allowed to.
You talk about a gun every rap you've been in, who you kiddin'?
I'll do more with a knife in a kitchen, leave you bleedin, twitchin' and bitchin' 'bout how you were gonna win if I just didn't slice quite so precise; sore loser failed his mission,
You diss me for my username 'cause you know that if you diss deeper, I'll go fishin',
Dig deep into your trauma from age 7 when your uncle got to fiddlin',
You're a wannabe and honestly It's an abortion that I've written,
You aint even a baby to this site, D, can't diss a fetus for not defending itself against its riddance.
One thing about me is I'm not afraid to be myself
I put it all on the table, I just play the hand I was dealt
So f*ck a 16, this bout to be a crazy 8, I'm on the prowl smooth
Oh you scared? Well don't renig now, that's a foul move
What's the deal? Let's play poker I'll show you what I'll do
If you get crazy I'm no joker I get wild too
Play your cards right cause one wrong move, they gone be like "Oh sh*t!"
And this is like a game of spades and when I cut you, cause this is where the flow switch
Trying to expose the king with them tired angles? They won't jack that old sh*t
You gone try and pull a card I ain't got, go fish
My wordplay is out of this world, but yours is simply not
In this battle you need to prove yourself, this the shot clock
You can get the whole cartridge, this when the game stop
Switch blade through your mid-section, that's a crop top
You really think you can beat me? I'm aggravated
I'm undeniably authentic, and my G is validated
I swear to tell the whole truth like an affidavit
Another W for me, Ima get off like I masturbated
i know you pretty well ever since ddo but im not the type to do personal stuff and dig deep in your info and shit even tho i know this is a battle and we diss eachother, but I agree I prob should've came a bit harder with the disses
Thank you for the kind words. I also appreciate your openess to others skills and abilities. Debates would be more fruitfull if that theme pulsed through the ego stretched veins of participants.
Wow, thank you. I take on board the parts where you say Devon was better too. I actually agree with a lot of what you said, I would vote me here to a similar degree, Devon's Round 4 was impressive to me but very forced/dull to you, I think Devon didn't properly look through my post history or anything at all to land a single personal on me other than about my username. It's also why I began to just keep digging as there wasn't much to even 'comeback' about by the ending.
@RM Ok.
@Lancelot True.
Rational's mistake was not making a clear voting setup in the description and consulting it with Devon beforehand, so now people are free to vote however they choose.
Since most rap battles are Winner Selection anyway and Rated doesn't allow for that, the rule should've been to assign all 7 points to whoever the winner is without having points of the Multiple Point System represent certain categories.
That said, voters should've been required to analyze the Lyricism, Flow, Rhyme, and Disses in their RFD.
If either side wins, it has nothing to do with who rapped better. It has everything to do with not establishing rules for voting.
I agree to Slainte's. Not those 2.
i originally said:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative
you disagreed
then i used Lancelot's rules:
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
Where did you say that instead of just rhyming?
You're nitpicking. I said lyricism. If you wanted to added something different for example you could have said comebacks/metaphors which really wasn't too much of a difference lol but its all good not that deep
Arguments: Better lyricism, including quality of comebacks and metaphors
This was never in your system
What did you say Arguments should be?
Bruh I literally said the same thing as the rules, all Slainte added was "including quality of comebacks and metaphors"
Were you disagreeing with the rules I said just to disagree with them? To be argumentative? Is it because I used Sir Lancelot rules as ideas and the two of you don't like eachother? I don't get it correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm missing something.
Not mad or anything just found that strange. Anyways best of luck
I'll start voting on this then.
Ok i agree to that system
Okay which rules would you like the voters to vote in each fashion:
Arg: ?
Sources: ?
S&G: ?
Conduct: ?
Arguments: Better lyricism, including quality of comebacks and metaphors
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
I will vote the above way you like. I have read it twice there is some quality on both sides. Winner is very clear to me.
While votes are technically unregulated, I'd rather both rappers agree on a voting criteria.
For instance, do I analyze who did better in certain areas and assign all 7 points to the winner or do certain parts of the Multiple Points represent like lyricism, comebacks..
I have my own idea for a voting framework, but so as not to undermine the integrity of voting, I need both participants to establish their preferences.
I don't agree to the rules, you need to factor in quality of comebacks and metaphors.
Don't forget to vote (Rules below on comment #25)
Why did you give me 1 instead of 2 and why do you say neither had flow?
thank you 🔥
(read below)
Please vote in this fashion, enjoy the battle:
Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
Arguments: Better lyricism
Sources: Better flow
Spelling & Grammar: Better disses
Conduct: Which opponent was more creative
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.
No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting.
I liked your Round 4 a lot more than other Rounds.
Good job stepping up your rapping.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4604-rap-battle-sirlancelot-vs-rationalmadman
My turn. 🙂
Rap's done, please vote.
R3 bars explanation:
If I ain't got it, I'll reach for your gun, like I like the steel (to steal)
The steel/To steal = wordplay/double entendre
True, you're right. I'm gonna figure out something else for the voting criteria.
Flow and rhyme scheme are quite similar and quite often used in an interchangeable manner. (I still believe there is a small distinction between the two but, yeah).
Maybe it would be better as delivery quality.
Set up whatever voting criteria you decide on for this rap battle.
Rational seems to follow your commands like an obedient bitch.
Shouldn't be too difficult.
Good round 4
R2 bars explanation:
Spanish scheme for the words that are bolded
I'm at your casa masked up, I got the steel under the poncho | casa means house in spanish. steel = slang for gun
Cheese stay on me bitch, my chips go nacho | cheese = slang for money. also double entendre for actual cheese since cheese go on nachos
If you want the beef I bring the shells no taco | beef = slang for drama/issue. also double entendre for ground beef that goes on tacos. shells = slang for bullets
I'll give you a shot on the center stage, no bravo
"Those dumb bitches you battled got 0 voters per battle,
I merely set this up and one of those very dumb bitches licks your boots after making it clear that me challenging you before him has him rattled,
He's a toxic little cretin type to lie as he tries tattles,
So kindly get your head in the zone here, I'm a tiger, they're cattle,
I'm at most the bull the impregnates them, I'm the breeder, you cucky cluck-cluck feathered-asshole,
This is charity, I'm letting you prove you're anything here, so thank me as each bar hits like a paddle."
😂😂😂
Still waiting on that challenge, big man.
Or is the best you can do is throw shade and cry about me in dms?
Pathetic.
R1 bars explanation:
Got a gangster aura, wherever I'm at most fear (atmosphere)
Well what would you like then as the voting criteria? Also we never agreed to anything so now we can use this opportunity to talk about it. Your comment is kinda confusing. I never said one thing mattered more than the other.
Rhyme scheme = rhymes as in who has better rhymes matter. Of course bars better. Rhymes are bars. Anyways tell me what the criteria should be - although I do believe rhymes, flow and creativity matter. Ready to battle whenever you are. Await R1
We never agreed on such nonsense. Why would rhyme scheme matter more than the actual bars and insults especially if after rhyme scheme is flow?
This time ill vote, now that your back.
Voting rules since this is a rap battle and not the average debate:
Arguments - Better rhymes
Sources - Better flow
Spelling & Grammar + Conduct - More creative
Will them agreeing with me make you more unhappy?
Also. Thanks for staying btw
*"Ask any of the current users how they feel about me and see if any of them agree with you.:
WeaverofFate, Bella3sp, Savant, Slainte, Mps1213, Devon, SkepticalOne, Public-Choice, AustinL, Sidewalker, Lemming."
Now before you say anything else.
I only want to know, do you want that rap battle or not?
Keep in mind, you mentioned it first.
With the exception of you, IWantRooseveltAgain, and badger, I'm on good terms with everyone here.
Including Devon, the one you're currently challenging.
Devon was ready to leave the site because he didn't want other people's drama and bs, and I personally talked him into staying and ignoring everyone else.
I also talked Bella3sp from leaving the site because I knew she contributed a lot.
Me and Mps (The guy you fought with on his first day.) had a temporary beef, but we resolved that.
I criticized Wylted for being partly responsible for the site's failure because he's deliberately choosing to step down and I'm currently clowning the site's current president Badger.
I criticized Mike, the site owner, for not actively leading his community.
I also like TWS1405, but I did call him a Karen.
Now you want to call me vile, a sociopath. Toxic to other users or whatever bs. Fine
Feel free to characterize me however you want, but ask any of the current users how they feel about me and see if any of them agree with you.:
WeaverofFate, Bella3sp, Savant, Slainte, Mps1213, Devon, SkepticalOne, Public-Choice, AustinL, Sidewalker.
You are a very unhappy person. I have come to realise that.
While I was gone, the only positive thing you said about any user was bootlicking the mods and president. Everything else was nasty and provocative to aggravate others and ruin their confidence.
The only non-shallow, non-toxic thing that you contribute to this website is your debating and maybe the tournament. You even tried to directly, not indirectly, poach members from here to your new platform.
So much for that big talk, huh?
Just as I’ve called you before.
Spineless.
Yay
Glad to see you back! Any chance you'll be sticking around awhile?