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@JoeBob
Your old role... did you get to use it before becoming a silencer?
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Owen not posting situation is something to note but with a silencer I wouldn't lynch just based on that.
As you point out joebob could be lying about not using it. It could also be that lunatic used it before the switch... you know, different timelines.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
Now that I have a few minutes to explain:
After I narrowed my scum pool to pie and a few others I noticed pie didn't have anything about him in Barney's list so I chose him as the next person I want a claim from.
The response he gave in post 58 served to imply an attack on me asking in the first place and attempt to redirect the attention elsewhere. Compare this to an alternate response that doesn't involve claiming, which could look something like "I do not want to claim for x reason".
The response he gave implies defensiveness while the response he could have given implies conditional cooperation.
Further dialogue along the same line consistently kept that same tone.
Back to work my next break is in a few hours.
After I narrowed my scum pool to pie and a few others I noticed pie didn't have anything about him in Barney's list so I chose him as the next person I want a claim from.
The response he gave in post 58 served to imply an attack on me asking in the first place and attempt to redirect the attention elsewhere. Compare this to an alternate response that doesn't involve claiming, which could look something like "I do not want to claim for x reason".
The response he gave implies defensiveness while the response he could have given implies conditional cooperation.
Further dialogue along the same line consistently kept that same tone.
Back to work my next break is in a few hours.
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@whiteflame
I don't love that he avoided answering your question, but that's not reason enough for me to pursue that lynch.
It's the way that he did so that bothers me. I can go into more detail in a few hours on my break.
That being said, I have a similar PoE to you with the exception of Austin, who I'm townreading based on his saying that his role supports the existence of Barney's Hated.
I forgot he said that. Alright, town pile for Austin.
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@WyIted
99% of the game is talking. In my experience once I decide on a general course of action deciding the actual moves on the board I want tends to take me about 10 minutes at most and each phase lasts several days to allow time for back door negotiations.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@JoeBob
@Owen_T
Alright that's all the deflection I need to hear let's lynch the sucker.
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@ILikePie5
Is it one of those roles that could be town or scum? If so I don't really care.
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@ILikePie5
If you said that then I missed it. It isn't noted on the list.
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Diplomacy is a World War I themed board game best played with exactly seven players that engage in plotting, back room deals, and backstabbing to come out on top. The game starts in Spring of the year 1900 and play proceeds through Spring, then Fall, then Winter, then back to Spring of 1901, and so on.
The following video is the shortest I could find on YouTube and covers the basics fairly well:
Or if you prefer reading, the Wikipedia article:
The rules may seem complex at first but are surprisingly simple and intuitive once past the initial learning curve and unlike other military themed board games a relatively small amount of the focus of the game is on actual strategy but instead most of the focus is on the previously mentioned deal making and backstabbing as it is possible for a single player to win but also possible for a number of players to be eliminated and the rest to negotiate an end to the game between them.
I think the backstabbing and deal making aspect of the game would make it fun to try out among an established community such as DART. If there is enough interest in this I will go into more details.
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@ILikePie5
What makes you so sure he is lying about being confirmed by MyLo?
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Pie is the only one out of those four that hasn't already claimed so let's start by getting a claim from him.
vtl pie
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I am going to go with joebob being town. If the mafia wanted to steal a town role I don't think they would steal it from an unclaimed player as lunatic was and further even if they did I don't see any reason that joebob would come out and advertise that he was switched if he was mafia. This leaves my potential lynch pool as the following:
Savant
Pie
Casey
Austin
Owen
I would put all of these in roughly the same priority except Savant. I would put Savant as my least wanted lynch out of these five as his behavior seems similar to my last game with him where he was town. I explained last DP why whiteflame and Barney are not on the list.
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@WyIted
I'm not going to try to convince you of any ideology for a number of reasons but if you want to know more about what I think then sure, ask away.
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@WyIted
the pure profit motive exhibited by the larger orgs owned by the billionaire classIt sounds evil. Why shouldn't I just have the opposite political philosophy of evil?
Have whatever ideology you want, dude.
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@AustinL0926
If a role swapper is the only ability one of their members have, then it makes sense they would want to use it as soon as possible to get a useful ability for themselves.
Help me understand your thinking.
Let's say A and B are scum and C is town.
Are you saying that A (role swapper) used the role on B and C or that they used it on themselves (A) and C?
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Okay this confirms to me that whoever did the role swapping is scum. I also stand by my assessment that the role swapper is a time travel role. I am not sure how to use this information though since it is possible that the role swapper lied and said they have a rant role when asking for role categories. Any ideas?
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@AustinL0926
You need to confirm whether or not you are a role swapper. Either a yes or a no is acceptable (as long as it is true) but we do need a yes or a no.
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@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@Savant
Did one of you flip Luna and Joebob's roles?
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DASHBOARD
Player Character Role
Austin ⌛ will be confirmed by MYLO ???
Casey 🗣️ "We'll Do It Live!" ???
iLikePie 🗣️ Possibly about mail in ballots
Disc ⏳ Went on a long rant as well. Well played.
Savant ⌛
whiteflame ⏳
Joebob 🗣️
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I have a new role and character, not saying what it is.
Most likely one of the people with a time travel role have something that can swap other people's roles. I am a time travel role but will say here that I did not do it.
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@AustinL0926
what does Wylted mean by a different dimension?
This thread is in the religion forum.
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@WyIted
This Game is experimental. I am willing to admit when experiments fail, so I will wait and see. I apologize in advance if it harms the fun
It'll be fine. I think it's a neat idea.
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@Savant
The numbering for alive players skips 4...
I told you guys when the time travel party gets it's GRUBBY LITTLE FINGERS into power stuff starts falling apart. Remember when I said they'll start confiscating your clocks so you don't notice the time paradoxes?!?! THIS IS WHAT I MEANT. THIS IS WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO NOTICE.
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Alright I will outright state I got nothing last night and wait for everyone else to come on and give night results if any.
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I put it all at least 30% at some point depending which other forums we time travel to.
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Ohhhh noooo. What's the are the odds on people not in the game posting here?
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@WyIted
Think of the informational sphere as analogous to an electoral map and the finite amount of attention that a person can give to the informational sphere as analogous to the finite resources available to a presidential campaign.
The finite number of hours of attention given to the news is often drawn to "grey area" cases as you describe them in the same way that the finite resources of a campaign are drawn to swing states.
The recursive effect that ensues is that more clicks on grey area coverage ---> more coverage of grey areas to get more clicks ---> even more clicks on grey area coverage as it begins to make up a larger proportion of coverage in general
This effect is more pronounced in larger and broader news orgs. Other more focused and smaller orgs or in some cases individual content creators often have other motives beyond the pure profit motive exhibited by the larger orgs owned by the billionaire class and thus do not always follow the recursive spiral above due to not feeling the need to squeeze every penny they can out of every little thing because they have other motives. Thus why I happened to have heard of this story and even watched the full body cam footage some time before this thread went up, I happened to catch it being covered by one of the individual content creators that I follow.
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@WyIted
I went to chat GPT
Everything that follows these words is immediately invalidated by these words and I see no need to read further.
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@WyIted
can you explain why obvious stuff like op is talking about is ignored by mainstream media when things in a Grey area spread
Because they are demons that only care about clicks and controversy. Is that not obvious?
Hm, actually you'll probably think that I'm making fun of you by saying that because you think I am a Jew and that I support mainstream media so you'll assume that I am being insincere.
Yeah I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I can say which both answers the question honestly and doesn't make you think I am being sarcastic, which I am not being this time. I'll get back to you if I do.
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@badger
I asked chat gpt to write a response to the OP because I am too socially inept to recognize that using AI to make any social commentary whatsoever is unfathomably psychotic behavior and it said this:
While it's easy to attribute conservative anxiety to perceived flaws or hidden motives, this view oversimplifies complex political debates. Conservatives may exhibit anxiety due to the challenge of defending traditional values in a rapidly changing society, rather than out of racism or bigotry. Their arguments often stem from a genuine concern for preserving established norms and addressing perceived threats to social stability. On the other hand, liberals, though committed to principles of equality and justice, might not always account for the practical implications of their idealistic stances. Both sides can benefit from open dialogue, rather than dismissing each other’s motivations outright.
I didn't read a single word of the above quote but I think my preface to it is the real point anyway.
Thoughts?
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@WyIted
Bad cop? That's just what They want you to think because something something woke radical left wants to defund the police communism anti-cop anti-white [insert buzzword here] Jew communism.
Or something.
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I watched about two seconds of the video in the OP, just enough to confirm that it is the shooting I was thinking of. It is. In this case specifically even the guy's fellow cops are saying the murder was unjustified which I found very odd. I assume he is the type of guy that microwaves fish in the break room and they are getting back at him for it.
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@AustinL0926
I think the math in post 264 checks out but the fact that there is a hated and an even number of players does fuzz it up so I don't think you are dumb or scum for saying what you are saying.
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@AustinL0926
It's optimal to lynch here
I am willing to hear this argument, lay it out for us.
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Okay we went from one VTNL vote to five VTNL votes within a space of 20 minutes. Potentially something to note.
That puts us at VTNL-1, just as a heads up. Next VTNL ends the DP. I am okay with that so won't unvote but I want to point that out to avoid someone doing it accidentally.
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@Owen_T
I learned he is not a real space lizard. He is only a human pretending to be a space lizard that is pretending to be a human.
Very scandalous if true. Do you have any evidence for this claim?
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I think it is more likely that the DP is going to end from time running out than ending from enough VTNL votes going through but I'll put this down now anyway just to put my money where my mouth is.
VTNL
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Confirmed Town
None
Strong Town
Whiteflame - Probably a bit biased because they complimented my page-long rants a few times, which made me feel quite happy as I did work hard on them. The "Not getting the whole PM" thing at the beginning is probably also biasing me a bit here. It's something that I think would be equally likely to happen to scum or town but I think town would be more likely to actually bring it up. Even without those biases, however, the post where whiteflame was the first person to come forward pointing out that some PMs say "win with town" despite some others saying "win with the town" - which was later confirmed by others - seals his place at the top of my town read list.
Barney - First to claim and claimed hated. Not an impossible fake claim for scum but I think Barney would go for something a bit safer if he was fake claiming. This plus the fact that he was the last to sign up after wylted already started trying to put together the new mashup theme and I could totally see wylted saying "Damn how am I going to balance the number of mislynches town gets with this last minute sign up? eh, I'll just make him hated that'll do it". By the way if that is what happened then... fair. Pretty clever actually.
Lean Town
Lunatic - I haven't played with Luna in years so don't remember much about their behavior and even if I did people do change with time so I'll approach this as a fresh slate. The main thing that stands out to me from lunatics posts is the fact that they don't seem to be only commenting on what other people are commenting on, they are willing to branch out to different untouched topics - but also don't seem to be pushing any specific approach too hard. I take these both as town tells.
That's not everyone but these take a while to type up so I'm taking a break.
Overall as we have 6.66 hours left in the DP I am standing by my wish for a no lynch.
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@WyIted
i would like to see America stay s 1st world country
I don't understand why you all have to be so over-the-top dramatic about Kamala being the president. Can't you just shrug your shoulders and rename the plan to "Project 2033" and move on with your life? Surely putting off your day of the rope fantasy for another eight years isn't the end of the world.
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Okay so as promised I reread the DP from scratch and after having done so I am getting varying levels of town vibes from a few players but none are standing out to me as potential scum. I think I would be okay with a no lynch today, the only thing that...
WOAH DD coming out in favor of a no lynch when last game he played he was scum reading Pie for the same thing?!?! Pretty sus!
No, look back at my last game when I did that. I explained in detail why the math clearly favored a lynch specifically because of the odd number of players. We now have an even number of players. Now, where was I? Oh yes... the only thing that might be about equal to a no lynch is, as some have pointed out, lynching the hated. At this point the math on these two actions is about the same.
I started typing up my specific reads so that I could have something more detailed than "a few players give a few town vibes" but something came up, I'll be back with those reads in a couple hours.
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You may not want Lia Thomas to compete with women in sports, but is that really a bigger issue for you than your healthcare bills? Or your child's college education costs?
Yes.
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unvote
Didn't realize my vote was still on Barney this whole time.
I will reread from the start as I promised to do tomorrow morning.
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I just realized that could easily be misread so let me clarify. I meant that was an obvious answer to the question. I am not implying it is obvious that whiteflame is town.
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@ILikePie5
Because I town read him. Seems obvious.
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@WyIted
You're right I wasn't being serious before but now that I have watched the speech again as you suggested I am convinced. We need to do what we can to make sure Kamala wins in November so that They know we mean business.
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You're on to something, Wylted, more than you know. If Harris is the nominee but loses in November the Jewish Elites you speak of will be satisfied with that outcome. Make sure to spread this news to all your friends with Stormfront know that if Harris wins in November then the Jewish Elites are fucked and they should vote accordingly. I can't say more than that.
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@3RU7AL
That post was about liberalism not some political organization that I didn't even mention in it.
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