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Also no Casey didn't get to use her ability to recruit someone because that would require her to sacrifice herself and if she sacrificed herself she would not have made it to the chopping block.
Yes, I know you didn't say that but you were about to.
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@Mharman
No reason to doc whiteflame. Even if they were town they wouldn't be targeted because the scum would see them as a potential mislynch.
Also no Casey didn't get to use her ability to recruit someone because that would require her to sacrifice herself and if she sacrificed herself she would not have made it to the chopping block. Stop overthinking shit, Mharman.
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@Mharman
@WyIted
We can lynch Barney if you really really want to since we are no longer in MyLo but he is town so I don't see why you would.
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Mharman gave me the doc and I used it on wylted.
Turns out that using a gifted ability prevented me from using my sensor but totally worth it especially since it wouldn't have done much anyway because the two scum pool players were both on the lynch.
VTL whiteflame
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@Tidycraft
I see on your news that people want to remove your president Joe Biden.
What you heard is people want to remove him from the ticket for reelection, like if Trudeau didn't participate in the next Canadian elections.
Help me understand the problem.
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@WyIted
Looks like I saw the thread, googled 'trump rape' then saw the news about the documents and made the post mentioning Epstein then 420 made his post about Epstein after that, he never actually said the two were connected.
I'll look at the new story later but why he be raping 13 year olds in 2016?
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@WyIted
I can check what was in the ones unsealed last week but I never heard of that all I saw was a bunch of headlines about the new ones after seeing this on my 15 min break
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@Mharman
Come on no reason to not have this wrapped up before I get off work.
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@WyIted
I thought one document was released like 6 months ago with a bunch of celebrity names all over it. Is there more documents?
Those didn't say anything about Trump and 13 year old girls so I looked it up after this thread was posted and it looks like more were unsealed a week ago.
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@Barney
I thought it switched two people in the night and made everything targeting one target the other and vice versa.
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@Double_R
So the Epstein documents from well over a decade ago were unsealed and Trump is all over them.
Why am I hearing about this from a DART shit poster and not as the lead story of every news organization remotely left of Newsmax? Your "Biden is fine it's just that messaging is hard in the heat of the moment because Trump lies" theory has some explaining to do.
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@Best.Korea
I don't think circumcision is what Trump was doing on that island, buddy.
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I feel like there is definitely a play we could use with that commute that I am simply missing right now.
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I was wondering why despite conservatives saying they were so eager for the Epstein documents to be released they suddenly claimed up about it.
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@Mharman
@WyIted
How do you two feel about lynching Casey then mharman giving doc to wylted to use on me?
Or if we want to be really spicy mharman can give wylted the commute.
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@WyIted
so how many scum were on the lynch last dp? I assume you used it or no?
Of course I used it. I was role blocked, remember? No results. Lunatic says it didn't waste the shot though.
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Break ending now but I think wylted will see what I am getting at. I will post on next break.
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@WyIted
Character: Replay button
Role: 1x sensor
Description: I detect how many scum were on the last lynch train when activated. I cannot activate if there is no lynch.
Justification: Using the replay button a player can look back at an attack and see what went wrong.
Role: 1x sensor
Description: I detect how many scum were on the last lynch train when activated. I cannot activate if there is no lynch.
Justification: Using the replay button a player can look back at an attack and see what went wrong.
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If the plan is for VTNL and my role helping in any way then the plan is not going to work. My role will do nothing to help. If wylted and mharman get on board with not VTNLing then I will claim.
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@WyIted
Last question. Are we just assuming 2 scum and risking losing the game with a no lynch? Or do we know for a fact it is 2 scum?
If there was 3 mafia it would already be game over so I assume you are suggesting a TP. We can cross that bridge if we get there.
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@whiteflame
I think the main benefit of having another NP still stands: we have multiple informational roles that can help limit PoE going forward.
Not really. Wylted's doesn't work on even nights and mharman's doesn't have much investigative power. It's just you and Barney, one of which is scum. If you have a more specific plan of action for how you two can catch plan your actions ahead of time to catch scum in a vtnl scenario I am all ears.
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@WyIted
I am sure mharman will want to delay the hammer so don't vote yet out of respect for him, we can use Barney and WF's reactions to the train to scum hunt next DP anyway.
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@Mharman
I think it is safe to say that you me and wylted are the core town group at this point. Since wylted's role works only on odd nights it is most likely that you or I will be chosen for the NK.
Right now the scum pool is between Casey, WF, and Barney. Lynching any of those 3 has a 2/3 chance of hitting scum. Is there anything that can change your mind about a VTNL? The scum pool is going to be the same next DP as it is now and none of us 3 in the town block has any role that can change that tonight if we VTNL, which is as much as I will say about my role for now to keep scum guessing.
Wylted and I need to know whether you are even willing to consider lynching Casey today before proceeding.I don't like her answer to my question for a few reasons but how we go forward depends on you. If you are not willing to budge from VTNLing then it would be inefficient for wylted and I to waste time trying to convince you and we will instead move on to planning how we want WF and Barney to use their claimed roles.
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@Owen_T
Like my girlfriend always tells me, size doesn't matter. If the government does a good thing that is good, If the government does a bad thing that is bad.
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@WyIted
I keep telling you I am on board with Lynching casey. Stop trying to convince me I am already convinced. We Still need to get mharman on board, hence the interrogation.
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@Casey_Risk
Like I said, I doubt that Luna would have included a total roleblocker in this game,
Why do you keep saying this?
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@Mharman
Do not say who you are going to doc or if you do say who you are going to doc you should lie. Keep scum guessing on who the doc target will be to maximize the chance of stopping a kill.Also you should doc me. Trust.
Obviously when I said this it was because I was skimming the DP and thought you had the doc ability, not that you gave it to someone. My new advice is as follows, changes in bold:
Do not say who you are going to give doc to or if you do say who you are going to give the doc to you should lie. Keep scum guessing on who the doc will be given to to maximize the chance of stopping a kill.Also you should give doc to wylted. Trust.
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@WyIted
Seems obvious in hindsight but I just realized this as I was rereading...
if whiteflame is scum why is he trying to talk sense into me?
If Whiteflame and Casey are scum he doesn't want you to test the restless spirit because doing so kills his partner. Let me know what you think.
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@WyIted
@<<<Discipulus_Didicit>>>Here it is. I guess the logic is that if her lynch benefits town it would be a stupid claim so she tried to WIFOM people out of lynching by that logic
Like I said I gotchu fam. Help me find the partner.
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I know what you are all thinking. "Very dumb tests, too easy for scum to pass".
Yes. Best I could think of on the fly. Sue me.
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@Mharman
The character is blacksmith. I said building earlier in DP1.
I know. There was still about a 2% chance that you were scum in my mind so I testing you. If you said anything other than building that would make you scum. Congrats you passed.
And Whiteflame passed the test I gave him too. I didn't lose my 1x shot after being role locked so if he said he did then he was scum.
This town confirms neither of you obviously, just avoids a scum confirmation.
As for the test I gave Casey... Need to ask Lunatic a question in PM.
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@WyIted
Yeah if she used the same claim as scum before that's a big enough red flag for me. I want to use the DP to sus out the partner if possible.
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Here is why restless spirit does not work to extend the game in MyLo right now:
4 town 2 scum -lynch the spirit
2 town 1 spirit 2 scum - lynch scum, spirit goes away
1 town 1 scum - not enough votes to lynch
Here is why it DOES work if there is only one scum left in MyLo:
3 town 1 scum - lynch the spirit
1 town 1 spirit 1 scum - lynch scum, town wins
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@Mharman
Sure. I have a JOAT ability where, instead of having multiple abilities I can use, I can gift multiple abilities to others.
I missed your character claim. Is it the gifting mechanism or something? I remember being able to gift troops in CoC so I guess that makes sense.
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@WyIted
You you already pointed out the plan of lynching Casey because even if town it won't end the DP doesn't work right now but it does work if there is only one scum left.
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@Casey_Risk
I assume one of the scum roles is "server maintenance", I remember that happening at the most inconvenient times when I played CoC.
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Okay as I suspected everyone with a blockable role was role blocked.
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@whiteflame
responded to this already.
Alright I see it now. So you are basically vanilla now? Usually shots go away if role blocked iirc.
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@WyIted
if whiteflame is scum why is he trying to talk sense into me?
Fair. I am confident of my town read of you and mharman but not sure who to scum read. I have a theory but need Whiteflame to answer my question about whether he is x shot before we can test it.
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Confirmed town: None
Strong town:
Wylted
Mharman
Lean town:
Casey
PoE lynch targets:
Whiteflame
Barney
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@whiteflame
Bro you x shot or nah? Need to discuss night strategy.
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@Mharman
Do not say who you are going to doc or if you do say who you are going to doc you should lie. Keep scum guessing on who the doc target will be to maximize the chance of stopping a kill.
Also you should doc me. Trust.
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@WyIted
there is no reason not to lynch casey now, because on the off chance she is town she extends mylo and she also just happened to falsely claim to extend mylo when cornered last game as well, so a lot of coincidences
Okay this is a good point, she will probably be the lynch. Still need an answer from WhiteflameI, I have my own thing going. Trust the plan.
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@Casey_Risk
Okay not what I was hoping to hear but that's not your fault. I will look closer at why Wylted scum reads you later given he is confirmed town at this point.
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