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@ILikePie5
Keep in mind that on a nl 

If a successful protect lands we are not even mylo. 

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@Vader
Bro we are at 9

Nl 

A nk takes it to 8

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Nl 

A nk takes it to 7


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With 7. Assuming there is no tp fuckery. It's 
4 to 3 

Why do you need a role for that? What are you on about. 




This is assuming there is no protect roles that land etc 
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@Vader
No I'm not. I'm not even sure what you are talking about. 

What do you even mean ?

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I have no idea how to read supa 

I don't even think he knows what he's typing as he's typing it. 

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@Vader
What do you even mean lol 
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@Vader
Bruh

Do you even read 

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@ILikePie5
I'm beating a dead horse 

The trade is 

2 shots vs 1

But implies second shot has to be accurate if we miss 1


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1 shot but with the option of 2nps of results to analyze


I prefer the latter. 
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@whiteflame
I love you lol 
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@Speedrace
I don't think he's scum. He's just tunneling me illogically because he disagrees with my play and personality 

Took me a bit to arrive here but if he's tunneling this hard as scum. It's a total 5 head. 

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@ILikePie5
I think it's better to have results when we pick the lynch.  Results could get fucked with but with the size of this game , not all of them can be. Again look at the graveyard

We are likely going to have something that helps better our odds. We also can opt into an additional np to analyze. 

Let's take what you are saying and there are going to be "ccs". That will happen even if lynch and get it wrong. The difference is we still have to solve tomorrow with the same thing happening and be correct or lose 

Nl gives us an extra phase of results that can help solve the game 





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@whiteflame
Agree largely with literally everything there.

The miller claim currently scares me as well.  I'm willing to buy it off balance. Especially in this large if a game. Pie reads town to me behaviorally but I'm never right about pie 

Supa sticks out to me as well


Same boat with drafter


This compared to that theme shit in mcu is good content. 
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@ILikePie5
In context we get 2 lynches but the second part to that is the second lynch *has to be correct*

This is true even if we nl

The difference is there will be a lot more information out. Look at the roles that are dead and look at the flips. Mafia can't cc every role. More information betters the chance of accuracy on the lynch. 
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@ILikePie5
Disagree fully with this for all the reasons I told drafter. 

Christ man, not you as well 

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@ILikePie5
I think what stands out to me is the massive amount of contradictions he's posted and the vanilla claim on top of that 

The issue with supa is it's hard to read him because I'm fully convinced he doesn't read anything except what he's tagged in and tries to fill in the blanks blindly

He did this last game as town. If anything him being town confirmed made him even lazier. 

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By how you play. I mean you actually don't read the dp

I tend to skim when I'm busy. I legit think you just reply to posts as you are tagged and don't bother to read the in between posts from other people.  

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@Vader
Me voting myself objectively does less harm to town than how you play. 
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@Vader
I don't care if you want my validation. I want to have a read on you. And to do that I need to believe you read more than 3 posts and just typed shit without actually looking at the game 
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@Vader
I read through your posts and everything pie was saying was mostly accurate. 

Please take it line by line and actually put effort into it. 

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@Vader
I want you to coherently walk me through your reads this dp and how you arrived at them 
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@ILikePie5
You said this was his "meta" I believe. 

Please explain 

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Supa needs to be looked at, havnt played with him enough to know he plays as scum in forum 
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I'm wrong. Drafter has to be town 


No mafia would tunnel this hard 
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LOL

Drafter right now 


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And no I'm not full claiming. 

You got my character claim and that's all your getting. If you want to continue to throw as town lynch away. 
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@drafterman
A u t I s t I c 


Herpa Derpa 

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@Danielle
Lul you actually made it past np1. Nice to see you around. 

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Luna told me to post. I'm posting.

I'm Frances Goldsmith. If you want more than that, lynch me. Town is autistic on this site and it makes me hate playing. Finishing this and going back to mafia scum. 

Drafters read that I felt the need to defend myself as scum during raid is also equally autistic. I did the the exact same thing last dp1 in speeds game. Go read it. I can post in between pvp breaks and when we are pushing bases. 3 monitors help. I always say that as a statement because it takes away from how much I can post when it starts. 

Pie literally pressured me for lurking as I said this.  That's the case nearly every night between 7 30 - 11. Either raiding or gaming with max and luna and doing that will always take priority over this. Doesn't mean I can't post. Means my activity is less . I tend to avoid posting unless I'mentioned during raid times. 

Still leaning scum on drafter for his continued idea that "we can't lose off a mislynch"

We can lose off a mislynch. Imagine if there is another killing role. Let's assume we don't lose this np , we go to lylo. Then we have to be correct next dp or we do lose. Mylo gives us the option to nl again next dp and get 2 nights of results vs 1. The inability to accept that is mind fuckingly dumb and hard to read. I really feel like town drafter could accept that basic idea

Not sure what to make of supa. He was hella trying to buddy me as someone pointed out and then started sussing me after someone called him out on it. Supa is always a third impostor and reads like 2 posts out of the dp because he's lazy. Not sure if he does the same as scum but reading his posts last game I almost wanted to lynch him as town. His posting this dp has literally made 0 sense and has no logic to it 

For pie. Miller bothers me but he did sop claim and was trying to character claim before parrot fucked us. I also buy the role in this big of a game and the justification for his character via the wiki is spot on 


Whiteflame also bothers me but partially because of the lack of posting. I disagree with him a lot but he does try harder. Seems really unattached to this game 

Rest are null 






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logging off for the night

you dumb mother fukcers deserve to lose
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just lynch me again

im never playing on this fucking siite


sorry luna

dont give a fuck

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@ILikePie5
bro do you people read the damn dayphase lol

raid

raid

raid

raid

raid
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Not Vtling him because VTNL is best option but drafter just made his way to the top of my scum pile.  

 Was debating If I read this blind push as scum or just dumb. I'm now leaning scum. Especially since he just pushed me for inactivity when I said I was raiding like 3 times. Anyone that has ever played past games with me,  knows I raid at night.  That entire interaction with him not understanding why lylo is bad just literally mind fucks me. He's either really bad or wants this to go to lylo for a reason

also if someone thinks I'm lurking


I raid almost every night like 8 30 - 11 est ish


Town Pile 

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Supa - 
White flame (slight)

Scum Pile
Drafter 

rest are null , not really enough to go off of 


miller scares me but in this big of a game I buy it. Also for other reasons . I have pie as null to slight town. Didnt know if that interaction with super was just all fluffy shit to make it seem like hes posting content or if he still hasnt figured out supa is supa and never reads half the game. 

Can go into more of these reads and as to why after raid. 
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brb again
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@drafterman
Are you actually that dense

christ man

"assuming there is no risk to lynching"
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@drafterman
Assuming there is no risk to lynching. I'm literally the person who usually pushes lynches on odd numbers 

but contextually with what happened to gp, we have to get this lynch right today if we decide to lynch.  What you are saying is lynch and hope when there are not even results (at least outed yet) and put us at lylo over taking an extra night of night actions that can solidify the chance of getting it right. We need the best chance of being right, not just lynching to lynch

"because you win by lynching"

like what 


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@Vader
cus drafter is a derp or scum 
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@drafterman
I dont want to get in a theory argument about this during the middle of raid but I'm really curious as to why you think lylo is better than mylo

mylo we have the option of getting 1 extra night action. Lylo we don't. How is 1 action better than 2?

or at least having that option 
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lylo*
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@drafterman
wrong , period 
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@drafterman
Trying to work out if you are scum trying to put us at mylo or just dumb

so have to deal with it as I scan this. And only 3 of us responding. 

Will give it a better one over after raid, but for now just taking the posts that stick out to me the most.

Trying to force us to mylo sticks out to me, very heavily 
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also I literally had to promise luna, I would play to my wincon or he refused to play in games with me anymore. Whiteflame was even in that discord call for the start of that conversation where I was getting roasted by him for how pissed he was 
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@drafterman
Bruh do you even math? We lynch today and get it wrong, that is 8. If nk goes through that is 7. That forces us to lynch right tomorrow . Or at least puts us under that assumption. There is 4 diff ways the game can go, and unless we find out a way to see which one is correct. We have to assume 3 scum

If we no lynch today. That is 8 tomorrow. We then can no lynch again, and the next nk takes it to 7. We can have the option to have 2 nps of results instead of 1. We can also lynch tomorrow if there is solid results. The difference is lynching today forces us to lynch right, and no lynching gives us the option of 2 nps of results. Next lynch needs to be right. Having the option of getting it correct is better than going to lylo

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logging on bdo for the night. Will check back in after raid/nw

if anything interesting happens, ping me on discord
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Going to pretend drafter doesn't exist for most of this. For much of the same reasons as last game. I can take like 3 or 4 sentences of full on retard before I just lose interest in responding. 

and hes just salty I lynched myself. Drafter is an old head, hes pissed I killed myself last game and his read was wrong. 

ego to big
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I want pies justification 

and tbh with gps monumental fuck up , I think the smart answer this dp is to nl depending on if we have results 


  1. There are 3 mafia, and 1 is a lone wolf. 
  2. There is 3 mafia and 1 non-joint winning third party in this game
  3. There are 2 mafia, and 1 joint winning third party in this game.
  4. One town role is either flavored or has a hidden mechanic.

If there happens to be 3 mafia and we blunder this lynch today, tomorrow is lylo. We actually have to be careful. 
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@drafterman
thats so 2010 of you
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@drafterman
lmao, yes because raging as a vanilla is as bad as a doc protecting a bp

or whatever the fuck gp just did

and dont make me do this again. I promised luna I woudnt rage if he let me play but I see why he says your shit at mafia
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@ILikePie5
what is your character and justification. 

Was trying to get there before GP did a GP
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