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@Greyparrot
Kill me pls 
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@Danielle
I'm intentionally not going to cooperate and I'm perfectly fine with dying. Have someone hammer 
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Think thats 5/6 someone hammer pls   



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@Vader
@warren42
Please lynch me. 
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Actually I may shoot the doc. Just to troll town 
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Vtl elm
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Right or wrong don't really care 
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Thank God. I was going to suggest to kill me because i didn't want to deal with 5 pages of stupid. I'm killing luna when I get lynched. Just pointing that out. 
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@Lunatic
LMAO


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@Lunatic
Bro why in the fuck would I have incentive to lie lmao

I'm actually dying 
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now actually going to pvp
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@whiteflame
what about me claiming a character is ai?
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@Lunatic
This is why I just find it easier to agree with you than engage you 


Ill just go with your right and lets move on
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brb in a bit, just got into a pvp thing
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@whiteflame
The Stormbreaker claim from Elm makes him a slight town read for me as well, since either that and/or Mjolnir was nearly certain to be in this thing. By the by, since Stormbreaker is here, I wouldn't be surprised if Mjolnir is not. One major Thor weapon is enough.
This is literally you saying you town read me off my character lol

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@whiteflame
Do you think there are characters that imply a certain role?
Do you think any of those characters imply an affiliation ?

The wording of that post was literally we can look at characters and narrow down a scum list. Implying that people who claimed certain characters ping you as town. That was you literal wording for why you town read me lol
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@Lunatic
No I actually expected you to tunnel me and I didn't want to deal with reading pages of text lol

Not because I was paranoid, I just remember the exchange from the other game we were in and after like 3 back and forths of the debate, I was willing to lynch myself. That is actually bad for town lol
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@Lunatic
I also think the not harmful part ties into the fact the dp was largely dead and you were wanting to start getting people active. So I don't read it as scummy, asking people to do it. Just trying to kickstart the dp
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@Lunatic
Instead of engaging in a reason as to why I don't agree with it, it's easier to go along with it instead of refusing. If I said no , I was about to get hammered by like 15 pages of block quotes. 

It's not harmful, just not useful 

much for all the reasons drafter has said 
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@Lunatic
Because you were going to hard tunnel me if I didn't and I dont want to start a theory debate about this but i'm fully on the drafter side of how stupid this is lol
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@whiteflame
Whelp, while we've gotten some behavioral analysis so far, no one's done any character analysis (beyond pointing out the lack of Mjolnir, which I'll address), so I'll give my two cents about the character list.
In the opening to this you literally say we are going to look at character analysis when there is nothing to be gained from this. Other than why certain characters, may be certain roles or may exist in the game. But there is no reason to even go down this path since there is no split. 

Just to start, all of these could be actual claims, since none of them give any indication of alignment and any number of roles could have been applied to even some of the simpler ones. I know I was surprised by my role with the Infinity Gauntlet. Still, I do think this narrows down the list of suspects somewhat.
In the same sentence you said all these claims could be real claim since its not ai and then go on to say it narrows down the list of suspects after saying its not ai

I read GP as town. He claimed a character that was almost certain to be in this game, so he would have invited a challenge if he was lying, and his role is a good fit. Needless to say, Supa is town. Wouldn't have expected to see the Gjallerhorn here (guessing Speed is a Destiny fan and liked the crossover), but he has no reason to lie about it unless he was trying to cover up for another character to challenge a claim, which it's apparent he wasn't. The Stormbreaker claim from Elm makes him a slight town read for me as well, since either that and/or Mjolnir was nearly certain to be in this thing. By the by, since Stormbreaker is here, I wouldn't be surprised if Mjolnir is not. One major Thor weapon is enough.
You say hes a character that is certainly in the game (again implying that scum have a reason to lie). This bothers me quite a bit.  And then you link my role to town because you keep thinking that claims are ai based on some split

The rest of these range from null to slightly sus. Gungnir, Ronan's Hammer, Falcon's Wings and Cap's Shield fall into the former category. Gungnir because I can't tell how likely it would be to appear in this (it's a borderline choice for a character because it does appear in the movies and is in the hands of an important side character, but doesn't play a big role there), and Ronan's Hammer because it had such a short-lived role and wasn't particularly important. while the latter two would have had me leaning slightly town on both Danielle and warren if they had claimed early. The fact that they claimed this late means that they knew these choices were available to them, so they could easily be fake claims.
Why would they fake claim, why why why lolol. This is all fluff


The rest are slightly sus to me, largely because they're so niche. Nick Fury's Pager is the one I buy the most of these, just because it's such a strange choice that I don't think Pie would claim it in an effort to give himself cover, but I'm still iffy about it. I'm similarly iffy on the Kimoyo Beads, but I'm slightly more sus of Water because it sounds like something that he and his partner could have come up with as a weird, niche choice. As for Redwing, it's something that appeared in the movies, but it's such a little known inclusion. It screams "safe claim" to me. So, right now, I'd say that Water and Draft seem the most sus to me, with the former showing more behavioral suspicion based on what I've been reading. However, I don't think they're on a team, so I believe at least one of these calls is wrong. Still, my vote stands for now.
reeeeeeeeee

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@whiteflame
Characters existing in this game implies a reason as to why they need exist. That is walking the path of theme split. 
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@Lunatic
When the mod says there is no theme split and there are posts literally dedicated to looking at theme split, that seems silly to me. Well seems fluff to me. Doesn't do much but lead town down a path that you get nothing from walking and causes more confusion about something that is not even worth looking into 
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unvote 

vtl whiteflame

After thinking about this I would much rather go in this direction. The more I read that long post the more it bothers me especially after we have established than analyzing theme ( as far who is in the game ) is pretty pointless. There is no way to decipher who is scum based on theme split and he put way to much effort into that post.  The best we get out of this is possible ways to lock people into role justifications.  That entire post was about who is in the game, why and why certain ones are missing. It reads as total fluff and that really bothers me
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@Lunatic
Not saying it's useless, I just don't care to read a back and forth between you and drafter about mafia theory when you both already have said multiple times you disagree on everything. Doesn't mean that its pointless, just no reason for me to go over block texts to hear something that can be finished in a fewsentences


you both disagree on why its useful to popcorn roles in a non theme split game. You for locking people into justifications, and him disagreeing because  you can squeeze those justifications into roles. 
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@drafterman
I would rather go croc but I'm okay with water as well. I don't like how fast people are jumping on water. It makes me think mafia is on the wagon. I entirely agree with your thoughts on why you are voting him. I'm just thinking its more likely to be croc for the same reasons because of his timing on when he claimed (after he saw the bit about water)

I think we need to pick one and force a rc  , if everyone is insisting on water i'm okay with that. He would be the next pick after croc 

then wf


I really don't like the fluff talk from wf
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I was pvping and working on bdo stuff but this entire dp is basically useless. A bunch of shit about theme related crap when there is no reason to even be looking at it

I still want to vtl croc for the same reasons drafter wants wp

He said he was cool with the mass claim and then took an entire day to claim it. (makes me think he was waiting for someone to say its okay)
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@whiteflame
That entire analysis is null 

why would you take so much effort into looking at who is what claims when the mod already said there is no theme split. There is no reason for scum to lie. So why right 3 paragraphs of total fluf
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@Lunatic
yes
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ignoring all the Luna and drafter back and forth just going to end in them debating mafia theory 


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@Danielle
nope

If you have to ask me to do that after this dp you have not put much effort into reading it 
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@warren42
litreally did not know this lmao
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@Danielle
the whole thing about him saying sure ill do it, then waiting a day to do it is why i want to lynch him

his activity is just a add on
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@drafterman
As it is, my biggest scum read right now is Water. He jumps in posts once about being okay with popcorning but then doesn't actually participate in the popcorning and leave again
to be fair croc did this as well, its that on top of him being lazy in a lot of games i read that my vote is on him. Letting someone slide without even probing them for inactivity is rough. If they dont play you cant get reads
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@Vader
I trust DD on game balance about as much as I trust him to lynch a confirmed townie 
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@warren42
This is actually a interesting point considering someone claimed nick furys something
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@Lunatic
When warren and danielle see it, they will participate and it will be quality even if limited somewhat. Croc I feel will be a limited poster and also post hardly no takes on the game. Supa is supa


but I think croc is a really good focus instead of just letting inactivity slide on top of just fluff
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Going to take a different stance than I normally do on this, @ Luna. I think we should just outright lynch people that arent contributing

Or at least let that be the target for the dp, worst case it forces them to out their role. But it gives us something to go off of. Not saying we need to lynch them outright but we need pressure on people who are less likely to post


vtl croc 
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Role claim

GreyParrot- Iron mans' suit - Bullet Proof
Supadudz- Gjallerhorn- Innocent Child

Character claim

Whiteflame- Infinity Gauntlet
Lunatic- Gungnir
ILikePie5- Nick Furys' Pager
Elminster - Stormbreaker

Unclaimed

Danielle
Crocodile
WaterPhoenix
warren42
drafterman


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stormbreaker 

pie
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@Lunatic
you just asked me the question the other day. How confident am I to make a call. Pray I dont get lynched, because we are taking a ride if i do
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@Lunatic
please do
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@Lunatic
NW and PvP and shiz,  if you decide to lynch me before I get back. Please make sure you are the one to hammer
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@Lunatic
More pressure please
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@Lunatic
Mhmmm
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o tbf I didnt read the op, just saw you tag me
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@Lunatic
Totally

you however are ignoring the fuck out of your discord pms while being active on here. Typing to much in the chain pm?
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On a side note he basically re balanced his game for role madness so we all def need to learn a lesson from last game.  
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@Lunatic
Yep, I told him if he made me scum I would not play so he trolled me 
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