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This honestly scares the fuck out of me. Except I'm thinking mafia vs to. He was really rushing danielle before she could talk. There is a easy way to figure that out though 

Depending on Danielle's flip it will say a bit. If guilty mafia will have a hard time because it confirms a load of stuff 

I keep trying to figure out a way she's town and I keep coming back to the fact that one of her and gp gas to be lying. 

Almost everything is out. Waiting doesn't change his claim even if he's faking it. What point is there to force a claim and that won't change as either town or mafia 

I don't 

Unless I'm missing something it goes her and then gp if by some miracle she's inno 

Verdict

Do we just want to pull the trigger. Now that she said she is pgo. Not sure what point there is to wait. I was expecting to hear miller and some reason as to why she lied. Her saying pgo makes this go to a pretty linear path

Please for the love of God. Thank about how to confirm your role. It's very obvious

You will be alive 

And re what supa said. There is no reason they would just block a role and not kill her. There would be 0 reason 

I don't think rb stops pgo

Yeah I'm willing to lynch I think

Shes doubling down on pgo. Saying she lied would have at least salvaged her. No idea why she is doubling down on that. It bothers me. Because it makes no sense. 

But would gp literally take a 50/50 trade. Only motivation would be because they can't kill her so this forced a lynch to get pgo out and to sac himself. 

I can't shake the timeline thing though. All of that adds up. 

Yeah I'm willing to vote her if we decide it as town. 

She is likely scum. If she flips town gp had to have pulled a 50/50 trade. Lynch him next np in case I'm dead. If by some fucked up way they are both town, this is already over. 

Does this all boil down to her claiming pgo thinking no one would call the bluff and parrot is parrot lol 

Can't think of why they would just bypass and not kill. Was thinking of to many big brain plays. 

So yeah it's either parrot or her very likely then.  If they are both town we lose either way. 

Can you check drafters list just ad due diligence. To see if any role can bypass pgo. I don't remeber any that do

Also why in the fuck would parrot pass her the bomb and not try to lynch her when she's gone. He was the one advocating to hear from her lol 

I'm at work all day and that sheet only goes to like 50 for me on my phone. I need someone to check every role and see if there is one that can block pgo

1) drafter has confirmed that no outside mechanics exist 

2) all roles are on his sheet 

So unless there is a role that bypasses pgo, she is scum 

There is a picture with all this. We checked it in detail. 

Depending on time conversion it's within 20 mins or an hour 20. Both are reasonable

What you said sums it up. It's very very very likely they had a convo about a role and drafter updated it. The time stamps reflect that. 

Now it's whether it's about hot potato or some other role. I'm inclined to believe him. He remembered the exact post and at the time they had it. It's hard to fake that 

The two biggest town vibes I have is supa and gp atm. 

1) supa because he knew that cop could not investigate itself. No reason to ask this of the mod if he fake claimed. He wanted to ask to check 

2) gp because he had to have had a conversation with the mod about editing the sheet. The timeline reflects that. Now it's changing the sheet about what. I'll take his word at face value because he remembered the exact post 

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(3) I also buy whiteflame behavior wise 

My bet is Danielle / Speed 

I think it's totally obvious we lynch between them. Even danielle knows that , it's why she said we prob need to lynch parrot. 

We have to lynch one, and then the other (if they flip guilty). If there is some way where they are both inno, we've already lost. 

I'm still inclined to trust parrot. I just find it hard to believe he would remeber that convo and take the time to find the post about the mod changing how his role working as scum. Much less that the sheet actually reflected it. 

Yes I know. We've been through that. At that time stamp , drafter edited the Google doc 

We haven't. I'm saying by that edit we know he's telling the truth about drafter editing the sheet. So they did in fact have a convo and he did in fact edit the sheet. Because it was the exact post gp said. 

The fact that he recalled it so vividly and remembered the exact time makes me inclined to believe him. 

Your meshing two conversations together

1) we need to look in depth over his role list to see if there is a role that can block pgo. I don't ever remember seeing one and pretty sure rb dies 

2) I'm saying grey parrot recalled a conversation he had with drafter about an edit to his google doc. I time stamped parrots post and checked the Google doc for edits. It was edited right around when parrot said it was 

Happy we are extending but in a very anti climatic way. Was sure she was going to say she lied for a valid reason (if she could post or returned).  Saying it's the truth lmfao

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In the first dp. Go knew exactly when he had a convo with drafter about changing the role. Drafters google doc reflects it was edited at almost the exact same time of that post 

Lmao

Not really

A meta means it's a standard thing , not that everyone has to follow it. 

This does not read town. If she's claiming pgo she has to say that. What would you expect her to say. 

I agree that all people with visiting roles should visit me so I can wipe them out lol 

I still buy gray parrot based on the time between the edit to drafters sheet and his post. Wanted danielle to claim before we got her , now it's obvious. 

We lynch her and then gp if she flips inno. I can't imagine a game where both a bomb and a pgo exist. Much less some way to bypass pgo

I asked drafter as well befor ei left work and wanted to check before I started gaming. I got the same thing. Has to be on his role and in his rules or doesnt exist. Unless I'm looking over something with luna then I'm now back to be being confused as fuck as that would imply danielle can post

ill have just enough time to read this at work before the dp ends tomorrow morning. Ill check in then

Prob won't be on before the np. Pls don't do anything stupid. Let's give danielle tomorrow to defend herself.  Will also confirm if that mechanic can exist 

Leave user up for now 

Go speed

<3

It would give out to much info. There is a very specific use for her 

Bro we almost have a meta of claiming pgo and miller in reverse. My bet is she's miller and can't type until next dp

She needs to be alive. Can't say why but she does 

I'm pretty easy to read as scum and I would just coast 

I guess I'm bias towards white flame cus I just modded a game where he did similar stuff and had similar posting patterns. 

Vtl speed 

Wanting that user to be alive for the time being. 

Also this is assuming if she can type. Even if she is tp or something and can't type. We need to hear from her to decide the validity of why

Her or speed 

I agree. 

I would be mind blown if there are 3 vanilla's.

In my mind I'm perfectly okay with lynching both speed and user and I feel like from balance that's probably the best lynch either way 

Yeah I agree but still need to give her a chance to defend herself and the pgo claim. 

I just promise you as scum I won't take the time to go timestamp a drafter edit in a google doc and cross reference. This is shit I do in live mafia. Everyone who plays with me knows my town play 

Vanilla claim 

In other's eyes I should be in that pool as well 

Could easily mean she can't participate. Either way we need to wait and see 

Also another point to leave dani alive. She has the bomb. She has to pass it someone. 

Whoever she passes it to can confirm there is a bomb thus confirming parrot with 100 percent certainty

Don't pass it back to gp

Mafia could also just want to coast 

This game is going to be confusing regardless. But we need to crack it. 

Town pile 

Parrot 

Supa

WF

Pie

Elm

Null 

Danielle 

Croc 

Lynch pile.

User 

Speed 

But yet he couldn't talk. (Apparently)

And now the second part of that no activity 

I dunno if I'm willing to lynch. She can confirm this if we leave her alive. I want to move down the poe list 

Wf*