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this is literally what im saying ffs

there is no world that I dont leave supa alive as scum

its an easy push this dp

supa did not se him self doc ffs

supa saw him visit himself, any role that is used on yourself would pick that up. The nk was also prob waived there to give credence to the doc claim. Its why supa saw no one else 

I have to make my case to you

from your poe it's either me or speed

If you re read the last dp and how irrational he acted, it should be pretty obvious. And look what hes doing now. Hes wanting votes to go on me to have someone hammer and end the game instead of talking.  I'm not fully sure how to explain the miller because we don't know what pie was / what roles mafia have. For all we know pie was a cop, and both sensor and cop are in the game to counter a powerful mafia. There is to much coulds or maybes

what I know is I have a result on 3 people, and hes the last one of those 3. 

He killed supa to play the doc claim vs me and auto win

as scum

there is no situation in where i kill supa here. I go for you because you are confirmed, or go for him and take the 50/50 between you  and then push a lynch on supa

this is so fucking obvious it hurts

of course im begging for people to vote

you are fucking scum

you know exactly what you are doing, you want votes on me so someone can hammer

its either 8 /3 or a tp

its very likely 8/3 

a third scum role is the only way to explain all this fuckery instead of a tp. One role to do all this cant be that powerful 

hes literally begging for people to vote, im telling you game is about to end if we dont watch it. Get your vote off

i know you are a town lock by the cc. 

take off your vote, if another random votes comes through and its not the scum. Last scum hammers and we lose. At least think before you throw

pls

This is actually proven ffs

i have 2 votes on me and wf is a town lock

if speed is town, i would be getting hammered right now. so its 100 percent him

the other scum could hammer this

I would literally have left supa up and pushed him this dp

thats what im saying. He wanted supa gone because its easy to get a lynch on me and end the game

because you want my result to appear inaccurate and you know doctor is a safe claim and no one will cc you

so it forces the lynch on me and game is over. 

Its actually big brain as fuck

Why would I target supa as scum lmfao

I would hit anyone but that to try and leave a second choice open. This is intentional because he knows doc is a safe claim and wants to force the lynch on me to win the game. 

totally understand if we lose off this, but I know this is speed 100000000x over

mafia has some shit that fucks with the game. Just read his behavior from last dp and how irrational he was 

doesn't have to be a lawyer. Any role that can function as a self target would produce that. 

no idea why there is a miller and not a cop. Or maybe pie was the cop and its actually sensor and cop in town to counterbalance a strong mafia

doc could very well be the fake claim 

or doc is the fake claim for the game, thats also a possibility 

That is not confirming you as doc

confirms you have a role you can use on yourself lmao

guessing speed janitored doc from pie and waived the nk to make it seem like he self protected. Its likely why supa saw no one else visit him

other mafia role if it isnt tp, prob has something to fuck with the game

its speed doing speed shit

I understand if you guys vote me here, but by poe its 1000000 percent speed.  

in / aot

we have whiteflame as basically town confirm at this point as well (cus cc)

we just need poe, if i make it to np4 (heres hoping) 

then we prob have the game solved. 

him or supa

but if one of them fucked with the game that much, its over anyway. I have to die tomorrow in any world where oro flips town. could mean they are tp according to chris as well but end result is the same

and i dont want to go further with this discussion 

I know what you said

its weird its like we don't have a doctor  

I'm not going to say why I think i'd live. But I have a strong idea about a (town) you. So either your lying and are scum, or ill be around

np4 ive said that before

that is literally why i said (hopefully)

bitch for the 9999999th time

its not the same. Im telling the truth and i get more sensor results, and hes not. If you go me first we loose our investigation role ffs

even if you think im lying and you are saying its the exact same, you are defeating your own logic. Holy shit

are you a derp

if oro flips miller

i die tomorrow yes?

are you saying both gp and luna are scum and im town?

because all you need is one of them...

lmao

walking this through one more time

1) kill oro

a) if oro is scum, it verifies me. We get more sensor results

b) if oro is town, lynch me from poe

from a town pov

the opportunity of me being right provides results, where as the opportunity of me being wrong just results in me dying tomorrow.  Speed is not that stupid that he can't see this. Thats what bugging the fuck out of me

gp if oro flips miller you promise to vote me?

they are refusing to vote me now because killing or o makes sense you potato

gp already said he would vote me if oro flips town. Any person with common sense would. all you need is one more person to say it

you are actually braindead atm lol. 

Speeds logic is literally non sensical. 

if oro flips miller, I'm the obvious target. Anyone can see that. The more he does this the more it makes me think he has some fuckery role with results. 

I've explained in detail why hes wrong and even wf pointed it out lol. Its total nonsense 

the major difference is you go oro (from a town perspective) and if he flips scum. Then you get another day of sensor results (hopefully). If not then you go me lmao. This is like brain dead at this point

the fact that hes so tunnel on this is so dumb its painful lol

if oro flips scum. It clears supa and speed 

that is another good reason to do this

if he flips inno, then its speed or supa

but i have to die next dp in that case either way to verify my results

yeah im still think hes lyncher or janiorted the doc

after oro dies we will have a way to poe from there though

A sensor just measures the amount of town players on any given lynch. A 3P would factor in as a non-town player, so yes, it's taken into account in the results.

so yes he just confirmed that for me as well

so interesting enough

maybe it could be a tp on the result and scum is still outside of it

this got way harder kekw

no im just assuming thats how it works based off past games

I can clarify when im back around near the computer but most ive seen dont show tp

Anyway off to do chores.

Read that summary, read what he's saying , and read the stand

I'm low-key really really starting to think he janitored doc as a claim.  We have to go oro here for poe but his thought process is all over the fucking place and I feel like mafia has roles that fuck with people. 

Half of his posts are also coming from an informed perspective like he has info he shouldn't. 

Wf literally look at what he's saying lol. He's basically saying that me luna and gp would never vote another way. 

Think about this.l logically

If I'm town. I'm telling the truth so we know one of the people on my wagon are scum or my results for fucked with which I think is impossible. 

If I'm town one of speed supa and oro are scum. 

That means both luna and gp can't be scum so only one could be 

If that's the case then why he is assuming that both of them and me are all voting the same way.  If they are both scum they would vote me in a heartbeat to end the game. But me as town that's not even a possible scenario because of results. 

If I'm scum then one of them has to be town. So again why is he assuming all of us are voting the same way.

It literally makes no sense. 

If that's the case the game is over tomorrow anyway. So why even consider what happens in the next dp

This is such a meme. Even speed doesn't know what he's saying. 

Is it actually a lyncher and 3 scum ?

Like you are literally assuming 3 mafia left. 

Wtf lol 

Like if you are assuming a 3 person split which already makes no sense lmao 

The the other 3 would balance it out because there is 6 assuming there is a nk. 

Bro you are like flopping all over the place. Do math in your head. That literally makes no sense and you know it. 

Also him saying that there is enough numbers to end. There isn't. 

There is 8 people up. Assuming a success on a nk that is 7 and a lynch today is 6

Even if he thinks we death tunnel someone (with a 3 person scum team????? Lol or whatever he is thinking )

One of speed whiteflame supa or reece would have to vote for whoever we vote for 

I actually have no idea what he's saying or thinking tbh 

I may be gone some of today. Helping clean the house and shiz and my only off day so using it to catch up. Will be around as much as I can 

Just urge you to consider this. You and speed have the exact same thought process but get 2 different lynches off it. Speed is being irrational and you are being rational. As town why would he no consider oro. That's literally the best pick in every way

This really really makes me want to consider speed. Nearly had him as a lock but I never thought about him janitoring doc or mafia having super weird roles. 

Look at the stand and how he was there when he had all those weird ass roles that alter shit. This is very similar. 

We have to go oro either way for poe. Like have to and he's refusing to be sensible. There is a method to this or at least in the back of my head I'm really thinking this is him being calculated

Please engage with me on this. You don't see how behaviorally weird speed is being?

Also speeds logic is assuming there are enough people to note vote me. This comes off from an informed perspective. 

And the fact he won't consider oro

Low-key wonder if gp is right and he may be lyncher lol. He was the one who dropped that term with luna. 

My speed is being weird vibes are pinging all over. 

My theory .

Mafia had a rb

The other role exists to fuck with stuff. 

And the last role I have no idea. 

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I think I'm sitting near 100 percent that supa is town just off behavior. I'm like 95 percent sure oro is scum. I also think wf is a town lock unless he bussed which is possible but doubtful. 

I think more than likely it's oro luna and luna is trying to bus. But I don't put this past speed janitoring the doc 

Bro my behavior is the same as the marvel game and I was town as well. 

I have the same play style when town is being retarted. Its called a low tolerance for stupid. I also do it in live. Except it's easier in live because I can yell over people until they shut up so I can carry games. 

Read the stand and look at speeds behavior and just keep that in mind.