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@badger
Yeah. Obama knew how to let Russia have Crimea in a classy and cool way. Biden doesn't know what a smooth transition looks like.
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@ILikePie5
I still find the fact that Russian Oil hasn’t been sanctioned hilarious. Polls must be looking horrible if gas prices continue to increase

I am pretty sure Putin predicted that would happen under Biden.
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@ILikePie5
You are probably right. He wants the entire pie not just a slice.
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@ILikePie5
I am pretty sure Putin is using "NATO aggression" as a pretext to getting Black Sea access.
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@SirAnonymous
Go read some articles explaining why NATO refuses to sanction Russian oil and gas.

Unlike the illuminati, this conspiracy is in plain sight. Ukraine was  doomed the moment it started taking a cut of the energy NATO demands.
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@SirAnonymous
Again, NATO is opposed to Russian aggression, not Russia itself. So long as Russia does not invade, threaten to invade, or annex parts of other countries, NATO is no threat to Russia. It is a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance.
I am not so sure NATO is actually opposed to at least part of Russia's aggression. Ukraine extorts high taxes on oil shipped out the Black Sea. That cost is passed onto NATO members who, on average, rely on Russia to deliver 35% of their energy needs due to poor policy choices. Some more and some less. If you have been following the sanctions, there are no sanctions on Russian oil and gas. It seems to me that NATO is willing to turn a blind eye to Russia gaining Black Sea access and bypassing the corrupt middleman of Ukraine if it means lower energy costs. 

This seems to be the actual story with NATO's decision to publicly condemn the action while financially supporting the flow of energy. As usual, this war boils down to oil. Nothing more nothing less.


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@ILikePie5
They just announced sanctions on Putin today
Better late then never.

Oil 100% won't be sanctioned though, which is the only reason Putin gets away with this.
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@Double_R
When Putin invaded Crimea Trump blamed Obama, not Putin.
Why would he blame Putin if Obama asked him to do it just like Biden did? Or are you going to troll this entire thread pretending Biden didn't tell Putin he could have a "minor incursion"

To date: no sanctions on Putin. Zero sanctions on Russian Oil.

In fact, Biden has objectively instated more sanctions on American Oil than Russian Oil. Who is the puppet here?
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@Double_R
Crazy how US investments in green energy caused a global spike in gas prices…
Most of the investments and subsidies to green energy relied on crushing the competition of green energy, namely pipelines and oil leases. It's an objective fact USA increased oil imports under Biden. It's also an objective fact NATO relies on Russia to supply 35% of their energy needs. There isn't much to debate about it.

Another objective point is this video that hasn't aged well.

A Biden administration laughing out loud publicly at the notion that the USA has no plan to increase oil and gas production is the main reason why Putin has so much leverage right now.

Notice that he asked what she planned to do to increase US energy production. She laughed and responded as if she had been asked how to bring down prices and said she has no control over global oil prices. She did not answer the question. And she could have answered the question easily by saying that she would immediately reinstate the Keystone pipeline, allow fracking on federal land, open ANWR, demand that banks increase loans for oil drilling, and allow an increase in exploration and drilling on federal land.

She said the Biden administration wasn’t interested in helping us get cheap gas and they would only be investing in ‘renewables’ for a long term strategy. So in the short term, this has levied a cost to all Americans who use fuel and has also cost Ukraine the Donbass.
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@Double_R
his is a debate site, if you can’t be bothered to make a coherent point or at the very least explain what it is your videos are supposed to prove then Im not going to waste my time watching them. That’s common sense, unless it makes you feel good to tell yourself I’m running scared from your intimidating intellect, in which case go on and delude yourself if that’s what you need.

These are not my points. They are Biden's points. If you don't want to address the points Biden made about minor incursions, then you have no reason to be upset about the consequences of Biden's actions that directly led to the invasion of Ukraine.

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NATO fucking hates Russia with a burning passion right now.
Not enough to turn the fuel spigot off. 35% of NATO relies on Russia to keep the lights on. A problem made worse by green energy stooges.
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@ILikePie5
Putin clearly played Biden like a fiddle by getting him to decimate global oil production with his green new deals and causing prices to skyrocket. There's no way Putin could have pulled this off if there was not so much at stake with the scarce energy situation Biden caused along with his buddies in Germany.
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@ILikePie5
Only logical that Putin wouldn’t invade under Russian Stooge Trump
What is really funny is that the fervent followers of Biden also believe the "green energy investments" would have stopped Putin from achieving dominance in the region, when it objectively achieved the exact opposite. Gas prices are at a all time high along with demand. Germany gutted all the infrastructure for nuclear plants with no backups leading to a dire dependence on immediate energy.

It wouldn't surprise me at all that Russia has been planting seeds of misinformation about green energy to achieve the present day high prices and global dominance on Russian natural gas. And NATO knows this is all about Russian energy. Look at this article, Putin has NATO AND Biden by the balls.


There’s an elephant in the room. Since Thursday, when Russian troops stormed into Ukraine, the U.S., the E.U., and their allies have announced a raft of sanctions designed to hurt Russia’s economy and financial system, and make President Vladimir Putin reconsider his invasion. But measures targeting exports of oil and gas, which provided 36% of Russia’s national budget last year, are conspicuously absent from the public discussion.

Some Ukrainians are not happy. “We need real sanctions, not just some problems for Putin’s friends,” Ukrainian lawmaker Oleksiy Goncharenco said in a video posted to Twitter Thursday. “We need an embargo on Russian gas and oil because every barrel of Russian oil and every cubic meter of Russian gas is now full of the blood of Ukrainians.“

E.U. Commission president Ursula Von Der Leyen says the bloc will target Russia’s energy sector through an export ban preventing European companies sending technology to Russia that it needs to upgrade its refineries. And the U.S. Department of the Treasury says it will heavily restrict the ability of Gazprom, Russia’s state-owned energy conglomerate, to raise money for projects from the U.S. market. But so far, the call for restrictions or an embargo on Russian oil and gas, echoed Friday by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, feels far outside the realm of possibility.

It’s not hard to understand why. Western energy embargoes would be painful for Putin, but he wouldn’t feel their full effects for several years. In the short term—which is what counts during an invasion—Europe and the rest of the world have more to lose.

On average, the E.U. relies on Russia for 35% of its natural gas—though some countries are more dependent than others. Tensions over Ukraine have already worsened a European fuel-price crisis that began last year due to shortages as the world emerged from the pandemic. Right now in Europe, a megawatt hour of natural gas costs nearly ten times what it did a year ago.

Sanctions on Russian energy would push prices higher globally, and fears that they might be introduced have already had an impact: on Thursday natural gas prices spiked 51% in Europe, and crude oil—of which Russia is the world’s second largest exporter—hit a seven-year high of $105 a barrel. When those sanctions didn’t materialize later in the day, prices fell a little, and Russian gas flows through Ukraine to Europe actually increased.

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@ILikePie5
He’s still in denial lol. Saint Biden is a strong and effective leader
I guess... I can only wonder how mentally warped you have to be to listen to a Biden speech where he directly said Putin could have a minor incursion with no pushback and then imply Trump somehow said it.
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If you have an actual point please make it. Not watching YouTube videos to try and figure out what cockamamie idea you’re trying to convey.
It's  videos of Biden speaking. I don't blame you for ignoring Biden right now. 

Do you have anything of substance to contribute, 
Do you actually have the courage to listen to Biden speeches without vomiting?
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@oromagi
Well if all the major Black organizations and the overwhelming majority of Black people were saying that claims to representing black people's interests were entirely false and that the movement was in fact actively harming Black interests to a spectacular degree then your analogy would apply.  Yes, I would oppose a movement that pretended to represent black civil rights while almost all black people cried foul and complained of active harm to their interests.

This sounds like a rant from David Duke.
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  • So not hobbyists, necessarily, but probably not even a majority of drivers of semis were actual truckers and that number less than 10% of the protest on its most represented day.  Not really a trucker's event at all.
That's like saying The civil rights movement wasn't a "legitimate" civil rights movement since only 10% of the people fighting to erase merit based on skin were black.

Disgusting. 
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@3RU7AL
were all the semi trucks driven by hobbyists ?

this is a rather simple "yes" or "no" question 

He won't answer that. It would ruin his work of fiction.

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@Double_R
I would love to know if any of these people arguing “Russia invaded because Biden is weak” could explain what exactly is it that Biden is not doing which Trump would be doing to stop all this.
Is this a serious question? Really?

1) none of this:
or this:
or this:

2) A position of strength begins with this:

A) Insist NATO take Putin more seriously than America does and insist NATO honors its obligations by backing it up with European military contributions.
B) Insist Germany AND America become less reliant on Russia for energy. 
C) Kill hundreds of paramilitary Russians if they try to interfere in the Syria war to prove your resolve in a bloody and real way in a language Putin understands.
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@ILikePie5
It's as if the Durham report didn't already prove Russia fed misinformation to Trump's political enemies and got away with it.
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@Double_R
When doing so, I would love to know how you account for the fact that Trump was literally everything Putin sought when he conducted an operation aimed at helping him get elected.

And yet Putin wasted 4 years to do what he did in a month after Biden told him he could have a minor incursion with no US response.

 that Trump was the thing stopping Russia from taking these actions,
It's an objective fact Putin took no territory. I also recall Trump killed a bunch of Russians in Syria as well.

This isn't exactly the results you would expect from a "puppet"
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@sadolite
I am most definitely dying with this table. I've had many a meal on it already and it's only a year old.
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I am genuinely scared though like until Russia actually attacked I was thinking it was some weird bluff, now it's real 
I think a lot of people believed Biden when he said he would be tough on Russia.
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@sadolite
I am nothing more than a man who works at a granite shop.
I bought a custom granite slab and created a bar table out of it last year. Best investment I ever made.
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@badger
It's a bit tragic that there's a war going on and I'm still so bored. 

It's a minor incursion.
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@thett3
Apparently, this is the "minor incursion" Biden was talking about in January.
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@Castin
It's comforting that you admit he is some kind of cancer though. This is progress.

I've always said he was a nasty man. But his benign cancer made us stronger because it didn't kill us.

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I think that the Russians helped a TV actor get elected President of Ukraine so that this present situation would come to exist.
It took Putin a few months to plan and capture Crimea under Obama and Biden but took him over 5 years after installing Trump as a puppet?

Highly unlikely. You are giving Putin way too much credit. Any tinpot dictator could read the tealeaves after Afghanistan fell in such a spectacularly disastrous way.
Biden practically told Putin to go ahead with his infamous speech.


Even a junk news outlet like CNN saw this coming.

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@Castin
FFS. In 2020 I had a choice -- I could vote for weakness or for cancer.
Most cancers are benign, they just look scary. Weakness ensures even the common flu will kill you.
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So you are arguing that you should punish someone BEFORE they commit the crime?
I am saying having the platitude that on principle, you don't take measures to stop war until it happens is of no relief to the dead people in Ukraine. It's like congratulating the police for showing up after your child died.
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It suggests 'other locations, such as Taiwan, might be easy obtainable for China, for example.

No doubt Taiwan will fall soon after the Ukraine falls. The axis powers have reemerged at a time where there is no resistance.
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Russia is starting slow and gradual, to accept direct sanctions which China and the middle east will help them avoid (especially China). Israeli forces have been assisting Ukraine so far, it is why Russia isn't making it a steamroll.

That seems likely.

Biden refused to answer a question today about Chinese cooperation.
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@Lemming
One 'could argue Putin is moving 'now, in order to make Trump and similar position individuals, look stronger?
Conjecture though.

What is far more likely is that Russians sent misinformation to Trump's political enemies to get him out of the picture. If you have been following the Durham investigation, that is objectively what actually happened.

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@lady3keys
In a democracy we don't punish people for what they "might" do.
That platitude is not much consolation for the dead people in Ukraine right now.
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@Lemming
Putin's prize is the Black Sea access, not Trump. I'm pretty sure every objective person knows this now if they couldn't figure it out the past 5 years.
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@lady3keys
Trump is without a doubt the puppet!
It just seems really odd if Putin had control of a president that he took no action at all against Ukraine for 4 years, but immediately made a move after the fall of Afghanistan within a matter of months under a president he supposedly had no influence over.

The actions just don't line up with the propaganda.
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@lady3keys
But it did piss me off that he didn't say WHY he wasn't sanctioning Putin himself -- and why not now!


Why did that part upset you?

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BSH1 MEMORiAL PROFiLE PiC PiCK of the WEEK No. 40- STAND with UKRAINE
Soccer without the red cards.
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And Biden is doing plenty BTW, along with 30 other sovereign nations and full UN collaboration.
PM Chamberlain had exactly the same response when Poland fell. The measure of a competent leader is to prevent these things from happening, not "wisely" proclaim it's bad after it happens. 
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@FLRW
I can't wait for self driving trucks and robots to load and unload them. I wonder what unemployed truck drivers will think about communism then?
Hopefully the robots will protest for freedom and win where the truckers failed.
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@lady3keys
I wish Biden spoke more forcefully, I do. But just because he doesn't speak charismatically, doesn't mean he doesn't "speak softly and carry a BIG stick"!
He didn't say anything at all when asked why he didn't personally sanction Putin and isn't now doing so. Speak softly doesn't mean say nothing.
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@ILikePie5
Also, why the F is Biden smiling while answering questions about the fall of Ukraine?

What is the big joke here?
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@ILikePie5
A reporter asked Biden today why he is refusing to personally sanction Putin now.

Biden ignored the question. Who is the actual puppet here?
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@FLRW
Hopefully 3 more years of blaming the Orangeman will keep freedom safe from Putin.
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America isn't going to do anything about this. People who won't endure blocked off streets and loud noise to protect freedom certainly won't go to war to protect freedom either.

The fall of Ukraine mirrors the fall of Afghanistan, and Biden can't do anything about it as usual.
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@zedvictor4
Just call them unfit in a world of survival of the fittest.
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Interesting news of Russia and Ukraine.
Europe has more to lose in this crisis than than the USA, so it is more inclined to appease Russia. Sanctions will hurt Europe more than America. Moreover, Europe is militarily embarrassingly weak compared to its economic power.

I agree. Despite the empty rhetoric from feckless leaders, Europe's objective actions prove they are much less willing to enter into a conflict over Black Sea access than the Biden administration.
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@Vader
The fact that you are willing to risk American lives for this is selfish 
The only lives at risk are the people who would support a Biden hot war. America is already on the brink of a civil war with how rapidly Biden has lowered the standard of living for everyone.
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@Dr.Franklin
This beats the Statue of liberty for sure.


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