ILikePie5

I dont see what you dont understand.

Almost everyone read 7000 and joe as scum because they did everything to make that happen from dp1.

You had 2 guaranteed town mislynches for free, you didnt even have to try.

I even managed somehow to save joe in dp2, and he thanked me by almost lynching me.

The game was set in your favor from the start. Even if you went almost inactive, town would still lynch 7000, wylted and joe.

They were what gave you the win.

And to call me the worst player is just dishonest behavior on your part.

Idc about this stupid discussion but I did not troll purposely. The way you’re making it act like is that I was voting you without evidence. Oh wait, that’s what YOU did. Whether pie was scum or not, that’s why I was voting you.

You just make false claims.

You are not skilled if town is helping you lynch doctor.

Thats just town being troll and you being lucky.

how tf did u talk urself into believing this

False. No sane town would have fallen for that, because there is no reason for town player to do what you did.

It was the most obvious possible scum slip, from you screaming "i will hammer doctor" to "you idiots" after you failed to hammer doctor.

You were eager to lynch me but just didnt want to expose yourself as scum, but then you even did expose yourself clearly by hammering me, and the fact that no one cared to notice, that was beyond belief.

It is when I realized town doesnt even care to win. Joe would just lynch anyone he can. He doesnt care who. Wylted would do anything to lynch doctor and cover pie, and make bunch of false claims.

Bullish was almost inactive.

To claim that I had a dedicated team and that I was the one bad player is nonsense, but you go with whatever makes you feel like you won something.

You voted me to hammer.

I gave you the post number.

The only thing which made your vote invalid is Wylted being hammered seconds before.

No. Wrong again.

You chose to.

Dp2 post 573

The only thing which prevented you was joe accidentally voting Wylted before you managed to vote me.

If Joe didnt vote Wylted before you voted me, you would lynch me.

Thats all there needs to be said.

Wylted just now admits to gaslighting Austin with a realised scumread on you he presented as a valid Townread.

Stop telling me I am wrong about Wylted being antitown as fuck. I don't just throw that accusation around like you to BK.

When I made a high effort post comparing pies current game to his known scum game I was like "fuck this looks the same" so I just cherry picked information to troll austin

Oh please, how wrong can you get? They handed you the win on a plate.

Even after you tried to lynch me in dp2 and would have succeeded if joe didnt accidentally vote Wylted, they couldnt figure out you were scum.

Everything about you was screaming scum the whole time, and the fact that I was the only one who read you from dp2 to dp3 speaks a lot about who was on my team.

I know why you killed Whiteflame in night 1. Because he was the only other person who would read you. Then you got lucky that he was also a cop.

A lot of luck was on your side this day.

Even after I baited you to lynch me in dp2, people still didnt believe you were scum.

All the reads were there, everything was pointing to you being obvious scum.

And my team missed every read and completely ignored all your actions.

If there were dedicated people with me on team, they would have read you and you know that very well.

But I got nothing but trolls who didnt even read the thread, but instead went with the least likely option of non-cc doctor being scum.

Would have? If what?

Inside the game as a Towny on DP2 if I was there instead of Bullish or Joebob, I am certain I'd have scumread the shit out of Wylted for even daring to consider unccd protective role is scum and

push that hard on some outlandish reason for townreading you based on solely one game before and making every difference exaggerated.

Austin was okay, Wylted was terrible.

I don't agree BK played bad.

Considering a driver can be in the game as the only alternative to a roleblocker, he did have every reason to save GP that night if he felt GP was the real vanilla.

Either his role is useless, he himself is killed or he pulls a miracle and tricks a driver type role to drive the save onto Austin or BK himself.

I almost lynched you because you said

Let’s vote Pie

And didn’t give any proof for an hour.

BK was cleared Town,

Wylted disrupted the entire day phase by overreacting to the clear PR scumreading him and let you hide in plain sight and wrap him around your finger by being so blinkered.

If you don't get that, that Wylted in particular handed the win to you on both DPs he was hijacking activity in, then idk what to tell you.

Wylted fucked the game up hardcore for Town but because of how utterly lazy 7k, joebob and Bullish were, he isn't LVP.

Again, you get false conclusion from that.

I said it would mean that one of us must be scum in that situation:

"The difference is that you and greyparrot can both be scum, but you and me couldnt both be scum, and lack of quick hammer would prove one of us is scum."

I was doctor, so you would be the obvious choice of both Bullish and Joe and you know that.

You got lucky that my team played bad beyond belief. 

You act like you won because of skill, but you could have literally be almost inactive and you would have won anyway because town players were trolling and literally lynched in first 2 hours of both dp1 and dp3, and Wylted did everything he could to paint you as confirmed town, joe almost lynched me in dp2, Bullish ruined my plan for dp3.

One could say you had a lot of help.

yeah so my reasoning was right but my conclusion was wrong. 

I thought scum didn't target me because they didn't know who I was, but they actually didn't target me because they DID know who I was.

I respected you until you said this nonsense.

If you weren't faking your take on BK as scum preying on dumb Town, you have to improve as a player.

BK was unccd protective PR in a setup where it's bastard modding to not have one.

Let me paint a picture for you so you understand.

Lets say that you are not scum.

VTL Pie

Why wouldnt 2 scum just insta lynch you and get free insta win  like you and greyparrot literally did to joe?

But minutes and hours pass and they dont lynch you...

Thats impossible.

Whats possible is:

You are scum, so scum wouldnt hammer you.

That was the plan which was supposed to defeat you.

1. And now you say that you have some skills, but all I see is you getting lucky when you were so close to being obliterated.
   

See? You are wrong again.

You would be exposed as scum.

If no one quick hammers you, it is confirmed that you are not town, because scum would quick hammer town.

You just got lucky this time. Lucky beyond belief.

Why are you arguing again? Game finished, move on. Instead, why don’t you say good game instead of saying how useless people were?

Gg’s

The difference is that you and greyparrot can both be scum, but you and me couldnt both be scum, and lack of quick hammer would prove one of us is scum.

You were about to be outplayed beyond belief.

Give thanks to Bullish for win.

Anyone who goes after doctor in dp2 is scum, or at least thats what I thought.

I figured if Wylted is going against doctor and saying that you are confirmed town when you didnt even claim, he is scum.

My mistake in dp2 was choosing Wylted instead of you. He was just so scummy that I have no idea how can that be town play.

Nope, BK was blatantly real doc as no cc to him cancelled him out.

Those even considering doc with cop is false are morons unless another pr made it seem that way then we have a reason to.

Anyone against bk having unanimous hammer power both DPs has no clue about mafia setup analysis. You were scum so I give you Benefit of Doubt that you were just preying on the situation.

Everything what you say is false.

You know very well I could have just VTL Pie in dp3, and it would be obvious you are scum as no one would hammer.

I was planning to do it as soon as greyparrot posts, thats why I said "dont vote until we agree" to prevent everyone else from voting someone else first.

I could have proven that you are scum. It was a perfect plan until Bullish ruined it by voting joe.

Well played pie I did not suspect u

Wylted was bullheaded stubborn and decided Pie is Town and Korea isn't from the millisecond DP2 outs happened. 

Wylted didn't even realise he had not at all read GP, Joebob or Bullish while forcing the clash dynamic.

7kseries is obviously lvp but you guys didn't catch that him softing PR and claiming vanilla is something scum would never ever do.

He wanted to die in place of PR, then didn't cc PR when really threatened to go. He is town.

Korea was far from lvp. He was probably the best townplayer on the game other than whiteflame

On this site, you can check who is online by going on their profile.

I should have just went with what tarot said and lynch you.

Wylted took my attention in dp2, as I simply couldnt believe town player would say that you are a confirmed town.

I was certain you two were scum.

I had 3 trolls on my team.

Wylted said for no reason that you are confirmed town, before you even made any claim of role or character..

And he said I was scum after I claimed doctor.

Joe was just randomly voting people.

Bullish voted despite me specifically saying not to vote before we agree.

Still, well played. I was close to lynching you, but town literally was just trolling me the whole time except Austin.

And we had a bad luck of losing cop in dp1.

It happens.

ILikePie5 - Stalk Bullish

Whiteflame - Cop Bullish

Best.Korea - Protect Bullish

I should have just voted pie at start of dp3 and I would prove that he is scum because he wouldnt be insta hammered by anyone.

I still cant believe that tarot correctly predicted he was scum in dp2 post 15.

Ok, I have said before, but I am coffee talk, in which I talk to customers(vanilla). I win with town. My guess as to why I didn’t die last night is to make people think that I am scum, which is clearly working. Why do you suspect  Korea?

I don’t 100% think those are the scum.

How about me not getting voted out?

Why would GP say this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10658/posts/429985

if he's vanilla? 

I don't wanna lynch BK anymore, I bet it's GP and joebob

Something doesnt make sense here.