ILikePie5

You forgot to add to this quote.

Pie said this:

You’re bussing Austin lol. It’s your ego

I replied:

My ego. I am voting you.

Thanks. Context helps.

This is 100% viable if GP is bussing pie. Bussing means voting partner out and/or advocating for that vote.

1. Pie's idea to vote Joebob and 7kseries is taken from me. 
   

1. He even mentioned me in doing so and said he wanted to vote me off, meaning he was making a (jokey) reference acknowledging my presence in the game before the mimickery.
   

1. Later he denies he mimicked me or joined my bandwagon idea on the pair.
   

1. Rewind, Pie forgets I am continually pressuring 7kSeries and @s me
   

1. He tries to suggest I can 'slip' in an open setup game where everyone sees mafia are 2 members who kill 1 per night, because I told you (joebob) that 2 murderers/killers are in the game. This 'slip' can't even be from the 2 mafia who know there's 1 killer in the game but he says 'know something we don't?' type of framing. He's fillering already in DP1.
   

1. DP2 gets going, he votes me. He does this believing 3 vanillas remain.
   

1. If he believed 3 vanillas remained, we are yet to see why he scumreads me which turns out to suddenly be because of my logic which realised the dead person was vanilla and believe greyparrot's PM reveal had to be legitimate proof he was vanilla with me.
   

1. Even after I state this he supposedly acknowledges his mistake and changes narrative again and again to say I slipped where I didn't. He says me not unvoting 7kseries Day 1 to vote him (Pie) is some kind of a slip when I would be risking voting off not only Town but a Power Role and even worse 7kseries already had a vote on me, it takes 2 more with 1 switching from the 7kseries bandwagon to mess that up hard and vote me off or it takes only 1 from it to make a tie on a day we had every reason to vote.
   

1. Pie and Austin seem to know and firmly believe that Wylted reveals full Town PMs to mafia which is a strange and abusive mod tactic I haven't heard of before on here ever being done.
   

1. I don't know why they think I know that or why I'd assume that GP asked what vanillas are sent, realised the lack of role wasn't Wylted fucking up what he's revealing and claimed that he had no role to make other vanillas instantly townread him. What kind of a batshit crazy gambit is that? If mafia was told 'you win with town' is what the vanilla townies were sent, within minutes of the game starting would GP as mafia assume Wylted didn't just miss out the 'you are vanilla'? Why were Austin and Pie so sure mafia were sent it?
   

1. Among those strange posts, Austin read GP saying to you he believes Austin and Pie are the team as GP saying I can't be in the team. He literally uses that as GP saying it's impossible I am scum which GP never said. Austin is lying to you and appealing to you rapidly and constantly since you out, as is Pie while I stay engaging all players because I'm still gathering data and especially since Wylted outed mafia get told mafia are sent town PMs I have to reconsider (but still believe in) my townread on GP.
   

1. If you read through Austin's logic the entire day phase, he has never not even once explained why he townreads Pie because the exact same reason he scumread me originally (that I was voting Pie while saying I belive Austin is nearly 100% scum as I figured it's a 3 way vanilla cc as I thoguht GP can't out what he did as mafia) is applicable to Pie who was voting me while saying he knew Austin was scum despite simulataneously saying he didn't because he somehow both reckoned that mafia got sent Town's PMs and yet thought GP was town for what he outed and then went back on that as soon as it suited him by utter nonsensical gaslighting logic where you can't coherently follow what he believed in that regard.
   

What was your goal that I didn't have?

an Austin GP team makes no sense why?

I want a reason a Rational GP team makes sense but an Austin GP one doesn't. Do not say because I buddied GP, I'd not be such an idiot to buddy GP that hard.

GP wouldn't vote you (Pie) suddenly because I said it and to @ me at ending of DP1 as my partner, like seriously how does Rational GP make more sense while you say Austin GP makes 0.

This is just you being scum bullshitting.

when pie was @ing people to help him pressure 7k, did he forget he'd sheeped me in the first place to pressure 7k? Did he forget to read the day period and see I was continuing to scumread 7k?

Note that after sheeping me, Pie forgot that I was pressuring 7kseries and @d me and even said I knew something because I told you in this game 2 can kill, not 1.

From the beginning of Pie's game, he sheeps my concept of pressuring you and 7k as 7k invited you. He continues further to pressure 7k after you react and keeps asking you quite irrelevant questions and doing irrelevant replies where mine were far more useful to you learning what to do here in my opinion (but him saying read the intro was useful had he said the right title).

this day period begins with him quickly forgetting that 7kseries is revealed vanilla as that's irrelevant to a scummember pretending. He doubles down on this saying I scumslipped. Over the next 2 posts after I expose that, he still hasn't clocked/realised it.

Pie and Austin both were so sure scum got sent Town PMs to know how to do what GP did which is that GP knew the Town vanillas weren't sent their role (as scum they claim, potentially).

I did nto believe this but Pie did, firmly, all day long. Why? Pie knew because he'd proven it already. Pie then continues to say I'm scum for ridiculous reasons. If you follow his reasoning nothing adds up, he even says i'm  more confirmed to him than Austin.

It's hard to find one specific post that's him 'slipping' other than what I said earlier but you will find his thought process of never considering me Town isn't sensible at all.

can you please wait around 12 mins while i collect all the scumtells from Pie? I'll make it one long post so I can easily refer to the link in the future of this day period. It will take me time, I want to collect every single one he's made several in this DP/

austin by your logic, GP and Pie can be the team, no? I don't think you're town but I'm asking you just in case. Trying to understand your logic.

The only reason i'm rethinking things is that Wylted said mafia got the town pms

I don't entirely buy that, but I will say that rn I would say GP is like 80% scum and you're maybe 20%.

Please explain why it is not possible for Pie and RM to be scum, btw.

idk if i am a bully but i can roll with it because aggression is important in mafia, it's the only way to make the enemy squirm and slip.

And that’s the thing. I don’t know who to belive. One side is vote pie and the other is vote rational.

Definitely true. I also do this much more often as Town so when the ylook at those past games you asked them to look at they'll realise it's my Townplay to do this. I am aggressive as fuck but admit I'd be aggro and active even as scum. That's my style.

It was random turned maintained. You 'gathered support' okay, I never worry too much about that you know me by now.

I just realised this post is a red flag as hell.

That's how I 'bully' mafia as Town many games, much more often than as Scum.

He could be buddying you as scum (trying to be friendly so you'll be less likely to vote him later),

but it could also just be a town player who is trying to be friendly to sway others to their side.

Pie is very obviously scum because he's been using logic that doesn't make sense most of this day period and day 1 forgot I was already pressuring 7kseries with him.

See now I got it. Once I was starting to vote for RM pie suddenly became the friendliest person here. Which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering this is the first time.

Not saying pie IS a mafia but for me it’s now a possibility.

I am struggling to find how this is a red flag. I have a feeling it is but I can’t put it into words. If I come up with something I will say it.

May have gotten something wrong however. But I am fairly certain it is rational as one of them.

I don’t know much about townreading, much less knowing what to look for, so I am mostly useless here.

i have no idea who it could be.

Nvm I just read that and saw GreyParrot. Speaking of him. Why hasn’t he spoken much? Could be him.

GP is definitely vanilla because he outed something early in Day Period 1 that only a vanilla can know in this game.

Wylted forgot to send vanillas their roles. I know this as I'm a vanilla and I asked Wylted what my role was and he told me he doesn't consider vanilla a role.

I instantly knew GP was Town and vanilla because of what he outed.

7kseries is dead and is vanilla.

Pie and Austin both claim my role. I know it's both of them now.

Can you state very clearly why I am more confirmed to you as scum than Austin in any shape or form? You claimed this was the case. I asked you and you diverted it.

It can literally be both of us. You are lying to him about what logic to use. To Joebob you and I can both be scum.

So yea im bodyguard . Knew that already though. Thing is Austin has a point. If you 100% know that Austin is scum then why did you vote Pie at the end? If you just voted Austin then you wouldn’t be having that conversation with pie. Unless I’m missing something which I probably am.

Yea I’m bodyguard. I protected Rational. I had a feeling that he would be attacked. Which he didn’t.

so GP is some next level mod psych genius and you're telling me mod psych doesn't matter all at once?

what even is a generic Town PM? For GP to do what he did there he'd have to have gotten an exact vanilla PM otherwise 'win with the Town' would not be fakeable as he'd assume they were sent role too.

I am not lying, you're making that up and I have always believed in analysing the game for mod limitations.

Mod psych is how if I was PR I'd realise what GP had outed. IF the mod was Lunatic I would not remotely assume he would not send vanillas their role, I'd assume it was a fuck up on a specific player.

that would mean he's helping the mafia cheat, that's my point.

you pulled that 90% out of your ass, I know it works on a site like this because mods are sloppy. On sites where mods are seasoned pros you can assume an apparent modslip is often them knowing that others know they'd say X regardless.

So do I say whether I’m vanilla or bodyguard? Or am I not allowed to.

What do you mean by this?

You and Pie are both sure Wylted would be an abusive game mod and do this, I can't believe he'd actually do that.

Wylted modslips that I am Town in what follows but I am sure the scum members will argue different and Wylted will deny it:

Even if you deny this is is a modslip that I am Town, I would like you to observe how flawed Pie's logic is this entire DP about why he's even arguing I'm scum, nothing he is saying adds up.

 Post #39: Pie claims that RM and me (Austin) are scum. With this in mind, why the hell would both of them not vote me?

You know what you did!

Bussing? You're saying I'm bussing you?

So you want to flip scum and frame me by your own statement I'm bussing you? Newsflash, your partner Austin cc'd vanilla and has to bus you now.

This is your weakest performance I've ever seen.

At this point I know both scum to near 100 percent assurance.

It's up to joebob and gp to decide correctly.

The near 100 percent refers to the fact GP can have somehow guessed what he did if scum were only sent you win with the mafia and not their role being mafia (goon) or whatever.

That is too absurd to assume scum ever guessed especially as fast as he did. 

There is no more reasoning or guesswork for me needed then. I don't need reads it's a 3 way cc. This is pure tells now, ask me anything.