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Yeah, but right now, the divide is red state vs blue state, not big state vs small state.  Otherwise California and Texas would be on the same team.

In a popular vote snarareao, most people in the US don’t live in one of the 4 biggest states in the country.  It’s possible to win the popular vote while not getting a single vote from California, Texas, New York, or Florida.  I’m from CT, but I don’t feel like a CT resident; I feel like an American.  It makes more sense to have the electoral college based on ethnicity (so the British ethnicity gets some electoral votes, the Italian ethnicity gets some electoral votes, the Indian ethnicity gets some electoral votes) than to have the things that get electoral votes be pieces of land on a map where people are well mixed up to an extent.  But ideally, everyone’s vote should matter equally individually.

I know why the elecoral college existed; I don’t see the point in it now.  NYC voters have more in common with LA voters than they do upstate NY voters.  The states don’t mean much anymore.

What do you mean by economic considerations or religious ones?  Christian’s make up the majority of every state in the country.  Slavery was an issue when the states had way more autonomy; they have less autonomy now.

Biden won because mask mandates in 2020 were backed by 80% of the population and Trump didn’t support them.  This caused some people to vote democrat.  People also didn’t like Trump’s personality.  Me, I like a guy that has the balls to brag about his net worth.  But a lot of people got sick of Trump.

It’s just that my history knowledge isn’t the best, although I learned a fair amount of it in school.  I learned about the electoral college and why we have it, even if I don’t agree with it now.  If I was alive in 1800, I would have agreed, but not now when society is much more integrated.

You were claiming it was relavent.

It’s not proportional; California has 80x as many people as Wyoming, but only 17x as many electoral votes.  That’s not fair.

They did the electoral college when the states were very different from each other, but now the states are much more similar to each other.

Taxes in the US stayed pretty much the same since Reagan’s time in office (https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-do-federal-income-tax-rates-work).

You can speculate as to why he won, but he won while being a moderate.  That’s my point.

I disagree with post 26, but you believe that.

The people who paid off their debt had their college heavily subsidized by the state, so it makes more sense to just make college for productive majors free.  If college wasn’t subsidized, it would cost about $50,000 a year(private universities cost about that much).

This is based; policies before parties.

Most people that vote in elections are base voters.   But most politicians can’t win on just their base; they need independents to vote for them to win.

There is not much of a political divide between Texas and Wyoming; they are both red states.  The same is true of California and Vermont; they are both blue states.  The majority of people in these areas want to force their party’s agenda on the nation.

States elect their leaders by popular vote.  The US President should get elected the same way.

States had much more autonomy in 1778 than they do in 2023.  So the founders wanted states to have more power, not the people in them, although this was factored into the electoral college.

I think the main reason the GOP supports the electoral college is because they are worried their party won’t win without it.  But if you get rid of political parties, this ceases to be an issue.

Possible; but moderates have been elected to the party primaries before and have won the election (like 2020 and Bill Clinton’s election).

Good point.

I don’t agree with ANY party 100% of the time.  I have many left and right beliefs.

I thought he did; some Virginia democrat resigned over doing something racist.

I don’t support subsidizing any woke major.  This includes all majors based on race, gender, or sexual orientation.  But STEM majors should be free, just like they were for the elderly.

I’m not a 100% democrat or Republican.  Parties are bad for free thought and they promote group think (which is bad for this country).  I’m an independent; it’s the independents politicians need to fight for.

I want to run for president when I'm older.  I am a half republican half democrat, so whichever party I pick, if I can win the primary, I can win the general by appealing to independents.  But I welcome your endorsement!

In 1800, the states were very different than they are today.  New York was very different from New Jersey.  But now their interests are very similar; to push democrat agendas in their state and for the nation.  Just like how Georgia and Florida used to be very different places, but now they are much more integrated with one another.

What's the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy?  The US is a constitutional republic, but the states are democracies.  Let’s emulate what the states did to elect their leaders.

That case was about the KKK.  If muslims did the same thing, the right would want the muslim banned for anti semetism (many right wing states banned BDS which is often done by Muslims).

I am a free speech absolutist for everyone of all religions and ethnicities.  The muslims get the right to want death to Jewish people just like Christains do.  Jews are allowed to wish death upon Christains as well in Israel where Jews are the majority; first amendment.

I noticed how you didn't address any of the times I called the GOP politicians and voters hypocrites.

I define a woman as someone who looks more or less like this:

I think Northam resigned due to his party calling him to resign, so the democrats have values they enforce.  If a democrat politician didn't want the COVID vaccine, I wouldn't care, but the democrat base (which I'm not a part of) would call for that person to resign from their job or get vaccinated.

I'm left wing on free college because the elderly people got college that cost $50 a semester because it was heavily government subsidized back then. 

Now, the elderly get it for free in my state (but not Gen Z, because elderly people vote right wing and Gen Z doesn't).  I want Gen Z to have the same treatment with regard to free college as the elderly.

I'm right wing on BLM to an extent.  BLM states 3 objectives:

1) Repeal Qualified immunity

2) Give reperations to black Americans

3) Complain about white privilege.

If BLM's objectives were the following:

1) Repeal Qualified immunity

2) End single motherhood in the black home

3) (This one is optional; I don't care if you believe in white privilege or not) Complain about white privilege.

Then I would support them.

But BLM is just a culture war distraction.  I care more about the US debt, which republicans critisize democrats for increasing until they get into power and increase it when they are in power.

If a muslim says that they want to run Jewish people over with their car, the right (I think) would want that muslim prosecuted for hate speech.  I mean, many right wing states banned BDS protests (which being pro BDS agree with it or not is not the same thing as being anti Jewish people) and the right never screams about, "free speech" when it benefits Palestinains

How so?

Again, you need to get better at understanding politics. 

every vote should be equal. everyone intuitively knows this. yet, when you point out to a pro electoral college person that the college makes votes not equal, you can then watch them contort themselves into all kinds of shapes. most of these people have never really truly grappled with the fact that the college makes vote unequal, and pointing it out is a good way to catch them off guard. of course, humans are too prone to stick to their guns even if it dont make sense, so they force the issue. 

bottom line. someone in california should have as much voting power as someone in north dakota. the electoral college makes this not the case. that's why it should be abolished. 

I don't know why conservatives are so pro electoral college.  The electoral college is Affirmative action to states that can't attract as many people.  If you want more voting power in your state, then your state needs to find a way to attract more people.

If your worried about democrats coming into power, what you might want to do is abolish political parties and force every politician to run as an independent so there are no parties.  But the thing to first do is rank choice voting, 5 candidates, each of whom must have up to 10 policy agendas that they fight for and between 3 to 7 of them have to be left wing ideas and between 3 to 7 of them have to be right wing ideas.  This way, voters are selecting somebody that they agree with at least 80% of the time instead of at least 50% of the time.

If this happens, there is no need for the electoral college because every vote would be equal, just like it is in all 50 states; it's not like in Nevada, where the vast majority of the population of that state lives in Clark County, it's not like Nevada has an electoral college where counties with less population are given more votes. 

This is true for every other state in the union.  So why not for the country at large?  And get rid of the senate; it represents Wyoming and Vermont per capita way more than California or Texas.

Wylted's claim was atrocious consider that vast majority of options there was to pick

Wait, if Crystalynx is vanilla, how did Earth redirect crystal to pie?

I didn't try to save Wylted because it was pretty clear he was the GF by the end of DP.

I don't know why I am fighting. Scum 3 games in a row. Are you guys colluding to fuck with me by making me Perma scum. like it might even be 4 games in a row at that point and that2 who I stole the role of was literally a rainbow body guard or some weird shit like that so go fuck yourselves. 

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