ILikePie5

That is an extremely general one, none of the others are general at all and yours is socially acceptable.

How is deep state gonna be a town role, how????

It is very unlikely

I am not Q-anon. My theory was recently in the news lately with Alex Jones

Oh buddy, we will get lots of information from your flip, I am sure.

Fucking vote Pie right now, Town Pie would have outed here.

Anyone that hammers this on Supa, if they are Town, should quit mafia and ask me to teach them before stepping into the arena again.

Opportunistic vote. Self preservation.

No.

Read the whole day phase.

Pie is all defense, zero offense. Giggly, chilled, mocking, jovial.

Pie as Town is a bloodthirsty aggressor that rips to pieces those that stand in his way and it has even cost Town many games because if he is wrong, it leads to disasters.

He is playing so utterly scum meta this game, I am done explaining it. It is a self preservation playstyle he has employed here and not even a collective preservation style as he had no issue with others outing, he let the day flow calmly. He has not defended against lynching anyone, did you notice? That is not his town style.

You saying this since he's saying you anti-town town?

Unless Supa is lying, tho pie/wf is possible since they both want to info flip and willing to vote Supa

wf is the most town in my eyes, tho I am open to Pie

Fail 2 see this rip and tear Pie, instead of scum hunting he ping pongs with you all DP, not even fighting you all out despite you being the one who stands in his way

I am seeing self-defensive play, with the vtls he went with my vote of Earth and my hypothetical vote in Supa, ooc with town Pie, feel inclined to be with you in this

VTL ILikePie5

This is why I am voting Pie, 0 offense,

Pie, why didn't you scum hunt?

Wait tf you did ask my reads, asked questions to me, saw how I responded, scum hunting in your books

Nvm what I said about scum hunting, why didn't you be offensive against RM/someone you thought to be scum?

Like with Supa, wf/me P0Ed Supa, you went in last saying you'd vote when I asked but didn't go all in against Supa b4

Pie has done everything im his power to pbstruct us cracking theme ic he was scum and knew rhe theme was not rivht vs left he cpukd happily feign that paft.

He stalls and stalls the cracking, letting him so conve iently fakeclaim later on after careful planning.

FakEclaim slips happen when they are forced early, if the player is mot terrible they always have a good fake later, after time tO analyse and make a realistic link to their fake role thaf also fits the theme of others somehow, especially the dead townies.

He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.

The interactions between Pie and others is extremely off, nothing like his Town play. He is barely grilling at all.

Holding off now, would you hammer? VTNLing is also viable

I don't think RM is going to gain much on DP1 since it's highly likely scum will claim vanilla or just not claim at all

Based on P0E, Supa

All of this DP doesn't make sense, RM is all in on theme splits with Pie being scum while Pie is convinced that RM is anti-town town, with Pie saying to RM to stop tunneling and scum hunt-did Pie say how to scum hunt? All I've seen is the vote to scum hunt based on behavior but I haven't seen anything beyond this

Yeah this makes 0 sense, saying you town in #258  then wanting you to claim, looks like RM really wants this theme split to be known

If my reads are correct, it is plausibly a Pie Whiteflame team (yes both refused to claim).

Thematically, I would then presume Mharman did it like this:

Town - nutjob conspiracy theories (stuff associated with people who truly are off their rocker and that the right-wing are known for)

Scum - sensible conspiracy theories

This would explain why the scum is hesitating, since the theme split is confusing even to them and even if they figured it out before this post of mine, it's not easy to pick out another batshit conspiracy theory that seems plausibly what Mharman would have picked.

The vanilla and the vanillaizer, do you believe I'm scum?

Town gets the advantage, what advantage scum get from you claiming if you're town is next to 0 at this point, 4 people are outed, 3 yet to out, it's Town that wants to the outing to happen to crack the theme.

So, enlighten us how we will find the theme split if you, Pie and Supa stay hidden.

I literally have been trying to have town engage with me and explore the theme.

I have no idea why you're blaming me for the rest of you being shit at keeping activity going and getting disinterested, that's hardly my responsibility. Get others interested yourself or stfu. LOL!

I think you are town, just use your power wisely, cause you could possibly lose the game for town.

But if I hit town pr at least I can confirm myself

If you were balancing out a game with a vanillaizer that is townsided in it, you'd probably put a vanilla in the game to let them waste their power if they misfire. Idk, I would definitely do that.

So yeah bitcoin betting, sure. However, I am saying the psychology of scum not the mod is that they'd never ever both claim vanilla, at least not until much later on into the day phase realising the opportunity is there and only if they're sure they'll get townread.

I don't townread whiteflame much at all.

I thematically believe entirely that if either That2 or GP is scum, the partner is the other like I am at a level of 100% sure of that because of the antisemite scum theme being viable as well as the non-US conspiracy theory scum theme being viable.

However, if GP is scum, it doesn't mean his partner is That2 as the Islamic world theme is viable with Earth.

So thematically based on the only people other than me who claimed, I think if GP is scum, you are Town no matter what your claim is. Therefore, I will tell you that I think GP is Town at the moment. 

Since I firmly believe That2 can only be partnered to GP thematically (I didn't clock that at first) I will tell you that I townread That2 and that it's based off of that that I also kind townread GP even more.

I don't see why Scum would out so fast for this, I can see why Town would.

Earth being 9/11 is kind of whatever, that claim can fit many themes except a right-wing theme.

Behaviour-wise, Earth is towny to me this game for his meta. He tries less as mafia and is so passive and trolly.

Okay vote whiteflame, I'll vote, I am okay forcing him to out 100% so but if someone hammers it after another votes on him, I will tilt the fuck out.

He hasn't acted very towny at all, let's agree and as scum he will literally at times defend his partner that overtly as he defended you here.

This is all stuff I stand by having said.

However, the theme and the way the 'character' claims are going, mean he has to be on my side thematically unless Mharman truly bastard split the theme.

It would be LYLO if we mislynch today. It's also patently obvious, clear as day that everyone is a suspect.

Sole vanilla claim is pretty much clear though unless it's an all Pr setup. It's about probability, seeing the balance, predicting things.

Please help me make a case for that2 or supa.

We have to out everyone's theme item/character imemdiately ASAP to crack the theme, the longer we let people hide, the longer scum can fake it well but now that is you, whiteflame and supa so I am talking to the person I suspect most, appealing to them to help me crack theme it is pointless to me.

There are many themesplite possible in reality if it's just a random 'these 2 have this in common, the rest don't' thing.

I am extremely sure Supadudz is town with me because he said he is 100% right wing.

In fact right now I will out what I think his theory is: Q anon and/or the election steal (they are intertwined). My theory is a subset of the shit that was come up with during the Q anon theories (which are more about the pedophile ring and whatever).

I know it is scummy that I said what I think he is but surely that has to be in the game and why else would he say he's 100% right wing?

So that makes me wonder what the hell yours is. There arent many right-wing theories left after classic right-wing ones like holocaust denial and Q anon are taken other than weird ones like my Michael Obama one. Are you the theory that Obama wasn't born in US or what?

Tell me, i don't care anymore about what bullshit you are saying.

Tell me your damn theme item and help me crack the theme or you are scum (you can be anyway, I don't care anymore as you are acting so scummyand obstructive).

Scum has information no matter what, it's town that lacks the information. We need the information out there to crack this.

I am 99% certain that the scum team has very powerful blocking abilities if there are so many power roles out there.

Let's hope the right townie draws the block; kinda hate the randomness but it is what it is.

I needed other PRs to out. I also wanted it because it forced Scum to not escape with an easy vanilla claim later if they are planning ahead. I wanted to incentivise both scum to claim PR and be in the pool I aim at, assuming we mislynch it leaves my power highly utilisable.

dude knowing GP is a pr means nothing, I wasn't going to use my power on what easily was a fellow Town PR.

Even if scum claimed vanilla, I am sure only 1 would, helping us in the cc's later. I also was open to be roleblocked, it would be somewhat a wast eto roleblock me over the investigative role (assuming there's only 1) or whatever. I don't know.

I knew my role was terrible to have as Town, I knew it was only good if I used it right and then PRs stayed hidden past GP and That2 who participated in what I wanted, one of which was a vanilla claim, so I outed knowing in the end I'd look so scummy now.

I couldn't care less if your behaviour is different, something is very off about it. You have indeed acted different though.

For instance right there you pointed to other people to intimidate me or rally others behind you, that's not your normal style at all. You normally just 1v1 aggressively when under pressure as Town or annoyed even.

You are scumtelling more and more, not less and less, it's not even consistent, it's snowballing. I can see it and I can see a difference, it is many things like the way you say things tone-wise, the self-preservation style as opposed to 1v1 kamikaze style you do as Town.

There's a lot to it.

You not helping me crack theme here by refusing to out and get whiteflame to out is only your Town game if you'd been against others outing.

This is a big scumtell from you.

As Town when I try to push for a reveal of some kind and you've been against it, you are at the throat of anyone who goes for it.

Yet, when people outed their theme 'character' in this, you were fine with it, even enjoying the Islam thing I suggested and asking about it, allowing whiteflame and supa to hide theirs and you too.

That's not town-you as I've known him at all, you'd either be totally for it or totally against the revealing and analysis.

1. RM wants everyone to claim whether they are PR or not
   
2. Pie pushes back on him saying scum can do far more with that info than town can
   
3. RM accuses Pie of being scum because he’s aggressive in pushing back against RM
   
4. RM continues to tunnel Pie even after everyone says Pie’s behavior is his meta
   
5. RM claims Vanillaizer, which can turn any PR into a vanilla/goon
   
6. RM does not SOP claim this role, which is just as easily a mafia role
7. RM claims this is why he asked for PRs cause he thinks scum will claim PR and anyone who claims vanilla is likely town
   
8. RM thinks everyone except Pie is town 
   

What does SOP stand for? Bastard modding?

I scumread Pie a lot though and after I reread some of this game just now, I scumread him eben harder.

In other words, I can barely ever read earth, I read around him, same with whiteflame.

Oh shit whiteflame did vote I see that now, okay whiteflame is townread by me unless he is pies partner

There'd be one dead after today's lynch and only 6 others than myself. Supa's math is forced but he forces math even as Town I presume as it is not his forte to my knowledge.

It is 2 to 3 odds I hit Town and that is why i forced vanillas to out so I know who to rile out making it hopefully 2 to 2 odds (2/4 probability)

Wdym by Earth and Supa? I saw Earth and Supa paired, you mean why does RM think Earth is less sus than Supa?

I admit it's shaky, it's mostly a feeling that Earth is mafia teamed with someone, tho I do want an explanation why RM paired Earth with so many, wanted to see how Earth would react to being voted

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