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@Barney
Do I need to break everything down for you Barney style?
I think you need to gtfo out of the mod chat and relinquish any mod powers you may still possess
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@Polytheist-Witch
I mean let's be honest as soon as the guy registered here RM did a post basically outing him as a someone who's into bestiality so if nothing happened to RM I'm not sure why something happened to Wylted.
Cause apparently, having an opinion that someone is a pedophile based on their beliefs and posts is an “extravagant lie,” and nothing should be done about it.
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@That2User
No we don’t cause Wylted got banned
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@TheUnderdog
Me: Trump isn't even tough on immigration; he's deported less people per year than Biden and Obama. If you're going to praise or criticize Mr. Rich Orange Man, at least have your reason be accurate.
Have you considered that the reason for that is less people came in the first place because of the deterrence he showed?
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@Polytheist-Witch
I think president is a worthless office to begin with it's basically saying the mods are too lazy to do anything we'll let this person do stuff. And supposedly we've had a president all the time I didn't know who it was before this person so they didn't do anything either.
I disagree. The President has veto power on bans and has the capacity to influence moderation. The President was elected by the people and for the people. He’s our last resort to the authoritarianism of the mods.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So you made all these threads based on a narrative you hadn't confirmed? You happen to be right in this case, I did not report the thread or ask for any help; but it sounds like you could easily have been wrong.
The point of this was that the mods (primarily Ragnar, even though he’s not technically a mod) are power hungry and want to be activists, rather than follow the code and it’s natural intent
And I did confirm it with the mods (specifically WF). You never said anything, nor did they ask you.
There are quite a few problems with this description. First "based on malice", you ever heard the saying "Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions"?
I’m just reiterating what the mods were saying. Objectively there was no malice. Subjectively you could argue either way. I’d argue that the code ought to be applied objectively.
I did a quick google of "Title IX" and I'm pretty sure that you would need a dangerous amount of drugs to think anything in that code created a duty for someone arguing on the internet to take onto themselves an investigation based on assumptions.
You misunderstand what it means to be a mandatory reporter. If I hear someone has been raped, even if it’s proven to be false, I have an obligation to report it. And that’s essentially what Wylted would be doing.
This hardly sets a precedent of keeping your mouth shut, you said "the police", did he get banned for talking to the police? No, he got banned for acting like the police.
Are you saying he should’ve called 911 and said I think ADOL is a pedophile? That’s more of spam.
He had nothing. No evidence of crimes, no information to give, he couldn't even demonstrate the two essential claims that I was a pedophile or would ever seek sex with a minor. With tips like those the police don't need spam calls.
You’d be surprised how many times “minor” tips have lead to large scale takedowns. You could be a pedophile. If you’re not, you have nothing to fear. If Wylted had the intention of posting your information on this site, or give it to the media, or to your boss, I would 100% support the ban. However, as a responsible, concerned citizen, he has a duty to do what he did, even if he’s wrong. If you see something, say something.
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@Polytheist-Witch
They have veto power and access to the mod chat. They can discuss options. Airmax wasn’t even present for the discussion. He hasn’t even been on the site for a week. If that’s not neglecting his duty, idk what is
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@Barney
You are trying to distort the matter, to conflate a ban principally over attempted doxing to be over another matter noted in it. The other offenses in isolation would have almost certainly just netted a warning.
So why is it listed as a reason for the ban?
That is very informative as to the level of your mental and emotional development.
I think both of those are fine. You on the other hand…Sheesh.
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@Conservallectual
Welcome to the Site!
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@Barney
This mainly enables crack downs on baseless and lengthy criminal conspiracy theories against other members.
that’s not what it says in the CoC
Nothing extravagant about this claim. The rule even specifies some leeway for context issues.
So you’re saying there was zero logic to Wylted’s claims? Even WF admitted there was a connection. He just thought it was far. Dumb.
Oh btw I think you’re Hitler’s grandchild or something with all of these fascist tendencies
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@RationalMadman
No, they absolutely did not. Thett3 didn't have shit to do with Airmax's ticket. Mikal and Luna are both closer to being VP than Thett is, by far.
Either of their two is fine with me
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@FLRW
OMG, you aren't Caitlyn Jenner are you?
Nah I ain’t weird
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@ebuc
I like pie, and who doesnt? However, after 5 large pieces of pie, we may appear a little on the greedy side of life.
This supposed to be some roast lol?
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@FLRW
I can see why Lia Thomas appeals to you
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@RationalMadman
They ran on a ticket and we know the rules aren’t crazy strict. We can get a MEEP in like an hour too. Not that hard. Hold a special election as a one time thing if it’s necessary
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@Mharman
Do you honsetly think this isn't ban worthy?
If it’s ok for the mod’s to dox someone if they “think” someone may commit self harm, then why is this not ok? It’s not some absolute rule like the mods are acting like it is. If you think someone may harm children, are you just gonna shut tf up and let it happen or try to prevent it? It’s the same idea as self harm.
The dude encouraged doxxing of another user! I don't care if ADOL isn't offended (although I don't know why you still want someone on the site if they tried to doxx you), if Wylted gets away with it, he's going to keep doing it.
When have you seen Wylted ever do what he did. Even the mods admit what he did wasn’t based on malice of any kind. As a mandatory reporter of Title IX, if I see something, I say something. It’s not like Wylted was going to post it on the site for everyone to see. He was gonna give it to the police. This sets a precedent that if you think someone may commit a crime, you have to keep your mouth shut and let it happen.
Besides, I don't think Wylted cared whether or not ADOL was offended by it. His intent was to harm another user of feign doing so by trolling. Either way, it crosses the line.
But did ADOL care? Did he report it to the mods? Not that I know of. If someone doesn’t want help, then why do the mods have to be activists and ban them. That’s literally what dictators do. Feign “help”
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@Polytheist-Witch
But nobody cares about that because it's me all of a sudden you're worried about the rules cuz someone you like was banned. Even you're insincere.
That’s the way things work. If you were unjustly banned you should’ve brought it up to me. I don’t follow everyone.
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@Intelligence_06
Whiteflame’s a fascist based on his behavior as a mod
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@airmax1227
doxxing/threatening/harassing another member
He didn’t dox anyone. Nor did he threaten to post any doxed material. And no one ever asked ADOL if he was feeling “harassed.”
Since when is being concerned about the community when no one else cares bannable.
Resign. You don’t have time to be in this rule because of your personal life and work, which is ok. Pass the mantle on to your Vice President
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@RationalMadman
You tell me, this is precisely what happened to me with regards to Seldiora and Mikal except there I really didn't break rules at all.
I don’t think someone should be banned if the user being targeted doesn’t feel harassed or threatened. This is mod activism not restraint. And it is an utter disgrace.
I am sad that I’m just coming upon this.
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@RationalMadman
Max is term limited I believe.
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@airmax1227
This isn't an issue of a controversial opinion, it's an issue of doxxing/threatening/harassing another member. I am for freedom of speech, and as part of that principal I support everyone to have whatever opinion they like without fear of being threatened in any way. That includes threats from the moderators, and threats from other members. If this was a moderator threatening a member with a ban because of some controversial opinion, I'd be the first to their defense, but that isn't the case here.
Did ADOL feel harassed? Did ADOL feel threatened? Has the team even asked him?
Or do you support this unilateral actions without any sort of request.
Also, you hadn’t been on for 7 days.
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I fully support Vice President Thett ascending to the Office of President.
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Whiteflame is a fascist.
SupaDudz is a fraud conservative and a neocon
Ragnar is a free speech quasher
Which of these are extravagant lies and which and aren’t?
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@airmax1227
Resign and let someone active enough perform the presidential duties
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President Airmax ran on a platform of free speech.
Where is he when someone gets banned for their controversial opinion?
Where is he when someone gets banned for their controversial opinion?
He should resign immediately and let someone who won’t disappear for a straight week take over
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According to the mods, they have a right to ban you if they think your harassing someone, even if the individual being harassed doesn’t feel like they’re being harassed.
Essentially mods can do whatever they want to because they think someone is harassing someone.
Welcome to Nazi Germany folks.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Who do you even want a restraining order against the why?
Also how is that evidence lmaooo. I said there was mutual decision on both sides for a reason
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@Polytheist-Witch
You do realize that the RO policy was changed without any sort of the word discussion. It's basically worthless now. Right before the two people had to avoid each other for 30 days now basically the person that you have the RO against can do everything they want as long as they don't insult you. That's why I'm laughing because nobody's bothered to even look into it you're just saying things and you don't even know what the f***** going on.
No. The person you have a restraining order against cannot engage with you and you can’t with them. Unless there is a mutual decision on both sides
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@Mharman
If you need a restraining order on the internet, you probably shouldn’t even be on the internet.
Where have you been all these years lmfao
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@Greyparrot
Are you a biologist?
I am an Appeals Court Judge for the District of Columbia
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@Mharman
I’ve always felt because of non-tagging reply posts the way of regulations such a rule results over moderation. I don’t think there should be a blocking feature at all except for PMs. Anything else should be fair game, and if you get harassed on a forum or debate, that’s where the mods can step in.
Perfectly fine with that too
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@Polytheist-Witch
My personal view is that if you block someone, you shouldn’t be responding to them or addressing them. The person you are blocking can do whatever they want. That’s how free speech works. Ofc until it becomes too much in which case you file a restraining order
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@Polytheist-Witch
If you block someone they shouldn't be allowed to address you either.
That’s what Restraining Orders are for if I’m not mistaken
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@ADreamOfLiberty
People on and off drugs aren't cop-drama villains who carefully plan everything out. I can easily see Hunter leaving it, it was incredibly irresponsible to have videos of you committing crimes unencrypted in the first place.
True, but why wouldn’t he go to get it back?
If someone other than Hunter dropped it off, it wasn't anonymously it was via impersonation. The Mac shop knew it was Hunter Biden's based on the invoice.
The laptop contents were about Hunter, but the shop owner said that he couldn’t really tell if it was Hunter. The man just said his name was Hunter. Anyone could do that
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I think an associate of Hunter Biden, who was disgusted with Hunter’s actions brought the laptop anonymously to the shop owner. All in the hopes of that fact that the guy would bring it to light.
It doesn’t make any sense for Hunter himself to do this and never get the laptop or hard drive back.
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@oromagi
That's right and I don't think the Trumpists realize how this question debunks their allegation. IF Giuliani, Bannon, or Gaetz were actually in possession of a copy of Biden's hard drive because some Mac tech in Dover copied it for them, that would constitute a substantial felony that the FBI would not ignore, never mind the laptop's contents.
That is false and I would like a citation of a federal statute that shows it’s a felony to do that. The laptop was rightfully his. He can copy and give the contents to whoever he wants.
All of this doesn’t matter since it’s obviously Russian disinformation and the intelligence community could never lie to us
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@Barney
If you block someone, responding to them shouldn’t be allowed
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@Bones
If the contents are the property of an individual and have been seized by the FBI for further investigation, I don't think the public, at that point, has the right to access the information?
I think you’re mistaken about the timeline of these events.
Hunter Biden, or an associate of his, dropped off the laptop and hard drive with it’s contents at a repair shop (the MacBook Pro had water damage). The repair shop guy fixed it and called the dude repeatedly to no avail. He wasn’t paid either. Then he saw the contents. He informed the FBI of the laptop because of its contents. Before he gave it to the FBI, he made copies of the contents and gave em to Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon.
The dude wasn’t paid for his work and the laptop wasn’t retrieved after multiple attempts to gain contact. The shop owner had a right to the contents because it was abandoned property. He did his part by alerting the FBI, and because the laptop would technically be his, he made copies and gave them to people, which is well within his right.
The problem is that 50 intelligence officials were quick to claim it as Russian disinformation. And ofc the media parroted this talking point. Essentially they were lying to our faces.
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@Bones
What I don't get is, if he really had to contents of the laptop in his hand, wouldn't it have been best to just examine the contents? He's already broken the law in possessing illegal contents so why not take it a step further?
Why is it illegal to possess those contents?
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@RationalMadman
If you genuinely think this, you have serious deficiencies in understanding reality, not just this game.
Seems to me that everyone is siding with me rather than you. Maybe you need the reality check
You could say anything about me you want but if you believe that, you're just straight up wrong. It isn't just how well I played that makes that wrong, it's blatantly ridiculous as you think anyone other than me? Literally every member of Town contributed to that defeat more than I did and the closest we got to victory was only thanks to how hardcore I kept going on Day 2 against VTNL and noticing a slip by Mharman and whiteflame in lacking game knowledge.
We were in that position because of you. People voted for Whiteflame because he claimed Cop when there was a claimed investigative role.
The theme was completely erroneously implemented by Lunatic, meaning it was 100% indecipherable even if Mharman had claimed BJJ because wrestling and aikido are far more fundamental than BJJ and he designed a role that literally enables scum to lose at mylo and yet win the whole game all at once.
There is no such thing as an “erroneously implemented” theme. The mod can create a split however the hell he or she wants to. Justice is an insanely OP role. The fact that you had it made us lose the game. Anyone else and we would’ve won the game.
You would not be saying that if Krav Maga had been in the game, I can promise you that.
After pulling the God stunt, yes I could. Anyone could. You don’t know how to read him lol
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@Bones
I’m pretty sure he said he had the contents of the laptop, which is different then having the laptop. I could be mistaken tho
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