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@Discipulus_Didicit
Based on this I think there is just one scum team and warren had a kind of 'traitor' role (i.e. scum but not in the PM).
Ya that’s essentially what a Lone Wolf does.
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@Lunatic
Did you get a screenshot of your character? If so can you describe said screenshot?
Ya a blue outfit with a blue miniskirt. Blue cap kinda like a police officer’s. Brown belt with handcuffs. A gun in her hand that’s pretty long. And a bikini top that ties at the neck with cleavage. Purple/blue hair.
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@Earth
If Wylted is PGO I should be dead.
He has to activate it is my point.
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@Earth
@whiteflame
What are the names of your “skills.”
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@zedvictor4
Well you need a reference point, otherwise it’s subjective
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@Lunatic
I thinking your looking too for into the lone wolf theory. The other possibility is that none of the mafia are in a pm together or there was a tailor.
Mikal gave a Fake Character so it’s possible that at least 2 mafia were in a PM together. Otherwise it seems insanely Town sided. As for the Tailor, I think the role is bastard itself. If Warren is really town and Grey is also town, today is MYLO with 5-3.
Or maybe he was just the one who had the final say with the night kill which is why it was worded that way.
I disagree. There’s no reason for Mikal to write that if they were all in a PM together.
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@Lunatic
Also, Whiteflame has a history of these thought out processes if you remember your game where he and Supa were scum.
Or I’m just overthinking and Earth is scum.
Assuming it’s 6-2 rn, a mislynch is 4-2. If Wylted is some sort of PGO then it could be game over if enough people visit him. That’s the only strategy I see right now
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@Lunatic
You think mafia might have a tailor?
My gut is telling me Grey was telling the truth that he was town, but he’d flip as a scum member. If he was scum why would he listen to us and kill Supa? Why not Disc or Max or Wylted who are very experienced (I took myself out cause I was FoS).
I am still analyzing a case where Wylted and Whiteflame are the two remaining scum and Grey was town, but what’s bothering me is Wylted saying come visit me tonight. Transformation seems like a great skill for a Lawyer. Or this is some Bomb technique or something — where he’s the Bomb for the night and everyone that visits him dies.
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@Lunatic
Okay so it's a one way bus driver. I don't think that changes the analysis though.
Assuming Wylted is telling the truth, my action got redirected towards Warren giving me the guilty. At the same time, the NK on Whiteflame got redirected towards Warren.
As I mentioned before, I strongly believe that Warren was a Lone Wolf Mafia member just based on the way his PM mentioned transfer of killing duties and partners. With a Lone Wolf, Warren would know who his buddies are, but his buddies wouldn’t know who the Lone Wolf was. Therefore it’s conceivable that Mafia just shot Warren without knowing that he was the Lone Wolf.
I strongly believe that either Whiteflame or Earth are scum. The lynch should be between those two individuals today. Which gives us more information though in case the game is not over is the question.
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I have a really crazy theory. Don’t know how much truth is in there though. I’ll take some time to review it and post it
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To me, Warren’s role reads as a Lone Wolf Mafia, which would fit the balance pretty well.
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WarrenSarah Kerrigan - Incredibily gifted and incredibly strong you were once a member of the renowned confederate ghosts and worked your way up in the ranks to become a main leader in the sons of korhal. Eventually this would not last and you were captured and infected by the zerg swarm and evolved into the zerg queen and named yourself the queen of blades. Nothing would stop you and your lust for power would ultimately allow you to ascend to a more powerful species, a xel'naga. Nothing would rival your power againSkill - Infected - If you are killed, votes the next dayphase will have to be submitted to the mod via dm, and once submitted you cannot change the vote for the rest of the dayphase. Votes will not be displayed in the main thread nor will a final vote count be posted in the dayphase. The dayphase will simply end with someone's lynch once the majority is reached via dmSkill - Silence of Ascension - (1x) Target one player at night, that player cannot type the next dayphase. He can only respond with gifs, videos, and such. You win with the mafia. If your partners die, you will assume the role of night killing.
Warren’s flip implies that there’s only one mafia faction with likely 3 total scum.
If Wylted is telling the truth then Whiteflame would have to be town because he was targeted with the NK last night. That’s the only plausible explanation in this scenario unless there’s another explanation for Mafia dying last night
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@airmax1227
It would be helpful to share any results if you have them. Easier to solve the puzzle hopefully
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@airmax1227
Anything to contribute Mr. President?
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@Wylted
I see what I did there. Yeah I guess me replacing words did not give the full meaning. It should sayCastling -(1x) Targets a given player to be assigned as your Rook and select another player. Any actions toward that other player will target the Rook instead.I head to read what I wrote down to see why you were confused and see I used the word "of" instead of toward.
Ok this makes more sense. Can you confirm that you chose Warren to be the Rook.
Also can you confirm the NK is an “action” that can be redirected with the Castling?
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@Wylted
What I posted was pretty close to a copy paste, but I asked Mikal for clarification and that's how he explained it to me. It basically redirects every single action directed at one chosen player to a second chosen player.
Ask him to clarify where actions on the other player or by the other player will target the Rook.
Those are two different things.
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@Lunatic
"Targets a given player to be assigned as your Rook and select another player. Any actions of that other player will target the Rook instead.""The Bus Driver is a role that can choose to switch two players each night. Thus, any night action performed on a switched player will affect the other player targeted by the Bus Driver."
Ya but it doesn’t say Rook’s actions will target the other player. For it to be a Bud Driver the opposite has to be true. With the way it’s written, it only works one way.
Same thing as a bus driver. Which means (if wylted is telling the truth and you are telling the truth) that your guilty was actually on warren. For this to be true, we'd have to buy that there are 2 doctors, or earth is lying and CC'ed to paint whiteflame guilty (really no incentive for that until a LYLO situation), plus supa's bulletproof netting 3 protective roles. If wylted is telling the truth it also means that Mafia targeted whiteflame for the kill instead of warren.
I don’t agree with you that Castling = Bus Driver.
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@Wylted
You basically copped Warren. Any action you used on whiteflame got used on Warren instead. If anybody else used an action on whiteflame, it got put on Warren instead.
Copy paste the mechanics of Castling.
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@Lunatic
The casting ability seems closer to a bus driver than a redirector.
That’s not what the description sounded to me. But either way, it still means my guilty on WF is true.
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@Earth
I think it might be possible that 3rd party exists.Also, I accidentally reported your post trying to reply lol.
U can unreport the post lol.
Also TP would be too much as there would be 4 scum
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@Double_R
Do you fear Trump so much that he should be banned from running in the first place?
Would it not bring your position more credence if you beat him on the issues rather than personally attacking him at every front?
Would it not bring your position more credence if you beat him on the issues rather than personally attacking him at every front?
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I think there are just 3 scum: Grey, Warren, and WF.
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@Wylted
I am rias Gremory. I have 2 abilitiesTransformation - (1x)When a player visits you they will be informed by PM that you are innocent.Castling -( 1x) Targets a given player to be assigned as your Rook and select another player. Any actions of that other player will target the Rook instead.Oppai Beam - (1x) Target someone and that person will gain 1x of a random active skill.I used casting on whiteflame and warren. So whoever targeted whiteflame actually had used their abilities on Warren. It would explain the guilty result and why the NK landed on Warren.I can confirm I am town as anybody that visits me tonight will get a message that I am town. I am using the transformation skill tonight. I think we should hold off on whiteflame. I think he was targeted for the NK which means he is most likely inmocent
The way I read it, Castling = Redirector.
So you chose Warren as the Rook and Whiteflame as the “other player.” So essentially you redirected Whiteflame’s actions onto Warren. So the NK was redirected to scum. Whiteflame can still be scum. Not to mention that he’s been CCed by Earth.
Post what your PM says. I think the role functionality is fine to copy paste. After all, it’s kinda universal.
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@Wylted
Everyone but Max has checked in. So what’s up?
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Ok pretty obvious WF is scum here but I’ll still wait for everyone to check in
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@Wylted
Is anybody questioning why there is an nK on scum? This is likely some bastard modding going on. I am hesitant to do anything until we figure this out
Ya it’s really weird. Anyone wanna confess?
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Skill - Infected - If you are killed, votes the next dayphase will have to be submitted to the mod via dm, and once submitted you cannot change the vote for the rest of the dayphase. Votes will not be displayed in the main thread nor will a final vote count be posted in the dayphase. The dayphase will simply end with someone's lynch once the majority is reached via dm
I think this why a vote count won’t be present. I’ll hold off on sending my official vote to Mikal because it’s not changeable, but 99% chance I’m voting WF because of my results
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I have some important information:
My character is Caitlyn Kirraman and I am the Cop.
Last night I investigated Whiteflame and Mikal informed me that he was GUILTY.
I also however got a very curious message from Mikal saying (paraphrased): I was affected by the frozen solid status and that because ice covered me my bones are cold to the touch.
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@Vader
Cool. Then if GP shoots me then I'll flip town
It’s your fault not mine.
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@Vader
No unless I am at L-1. You are not gonna force me to claim under very idiotic reads
Well you better hope GP is scum then
VTL GP
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@whiteflame
though he's claiming that Supa will die, and Supa isn't, to my knowledge, on the lynch as of yet). It just doesn't add up.
Supa just recently joined the wagon. GP is L-1
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@Vader
You’re on the chopping block if Grey is town. Are you going to claim or not?
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@Earth
@whiteflame
@warren42
@ComputerNerd
Reads?
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Wylted
@sui_generis
@airmax1227
Reads?
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@Polytheist-Witch
Quite a few single moms out there doing pretty goddamn good job. Being born to a single parent home where it's the father is the worst case you can be born into. Because they're entitled to less programs than mothers are. For instance a single father can't get WIC.
Another lie.
“Single fathers, on average, have higher incomes than single mothers and are far less likely to be living at or below the poverty line—24% versus 43%.”
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So, you support benefits/welfare to a parent per child born, for instance? As a policy, I mean.
If they don’t have an abortion and need the help financially, I don’t see why not? I believe in charity. Many such programs exist both taxpayer funded and non-taxpayer funded.
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@Vader
This builds on the Wylted point and warrens point
So you’re siding with Wylted for doing the same thing to GP and then later on me?
I'm not going to read much into mod psyche til the game is over. I don't ever recall playing in a Mikal game ever (maybe a while ago on DART), so I think deep analysis of it is pointless,
This was in reference to Lunatic’s sus of Sui, not timing of PMs.
I don't buy the pm psych overall, I think it's a stupid game to play because this whole thing was kinda messy from the start when we got our roles with dp's not starting til the confirmation thing. I find it hard to reach such.
Yet there’s an FoS on me but not Wylted for doing the same thing and then doubling down on it.
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@Vader
1. My meta is not rushing lynches in DP1. We have to work with town to gage behaviors and make the optimal choice. We have roughly like 36 hours to do so.
I never said that’s your meta.
I had an FoS on you from the start from when you were pushing Wylted because of when the PM was given out. I don't wanna hear that garbage that I am OMGUSing you when my vote isn't even on you
So you had an FoS on me for timing of PM but not on Wylted for doing the same thing with GP? Interesting.
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@Mikal
Game is starting now and First Dayphase will end Tuesday at 8 PM est
Can you confirm that this is true or the 44 hours is true? Cause the timing doesn’t match up.
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@Vader
Please go read my games as mafia before you say nonsense such as thisAnd if you are talking resistance, resistance =/= mafia
OMGUS is another tell.
Your reads on me have been garbage lol. Even this game you’re like, oh Pie is aggressive, so he must be scum, cause that’s his meta. Clearly you’ve been wrong about that in previous games but still parrot it as OMGUS.
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@Vader
I am sus of you because you are making no competent sense in your lynches.
Again, this lacks specificity.
I keep telling you to stop pointing out Wylteds PM as a way to indicate affiliation yet you keep doing as such despite how useless and pathetic it is.
Again, why.
From there, you lay no pressure on GP, and divert your attention to me because my posts have been lazy, not even affiliation indicating me
Whoa whoa whoa. This is some OMGUS material. I’ve already laid out my thoughts on GP. This is the third time you’ve said you’re sus of GP and still haven’t placed a vote on him.
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@Vader
GP is scummy because he is pushing a role where if you lynch him, he's gonna shoot someone, thus making it as a diversion.
Wym mean a diversion? If you think he’s scum you should be voting for him. And if you think he’s scum he’s likely lying about his role.
Pie is sticking up for this and is literally derailing threads to push a lynch on me for posting
I said from Day 1 I support a policy lynch on GP barring any better alternatives. In the off chance GP is town and he gets to shoot, I’m hunting for other scum. You have a problem with that? Cause at the moment I seem to be the only person doing that.
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Anyways I’m off for the night. Gotta finish Finance notes
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You are speaking about helping pregnant women until they have their baby, correct?I am speaking about the baby once it's born.
Yes my money goes indirectly to their moms for resources before and after birth.
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