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@Wylted
I understand his point. He wants to make sure that all users feel welcome, particularly when it comes to having traits they can't necessarily help. This is why he is such a great person to have defending people from harassment and bullying. You can depend on him to be the best advocate for the down trodden, the site could possibly have.
I wouldn’t trust him to walk my dog in my neighborhood lol
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@RationalMadman
White supremacists advocating white supremacy, yes I don't believe in free speech for that. You're welcome for my confirmation.
I fully accept your confession that you’re not in support of free speech
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@RationalMadman
Yes, point blank yes.
So you don’t believe in free speech of users on a debate site even if they back it up with facts/sources. Thank you for confirming that.
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@RationalMadman
I would be very okay with banning a user who did that on a regular basis.If their sole statement is about IQ or something and it's a discussion about IQ, I'd be just about okay with it. If it was a discussion contextually leading to white supremacy and degrading the race, I'd definitely draw the line.I don't know any context other than pure IQ discussion where it would be appropriate though.'brown structure' is just plain racist though but you clearly said it to highlight the kind of ways they'd word things.
So you don’t believe that white supremacy should be advocated for/debated on the site when it includes evidence?
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@RationalMadman
The answer to your question is that alone is very close to what I would try to avoid but not over the line on this particular website for sure because that comes under the 'freedom' it's about what it says to do to the race, sex/gender, trans people etc and how deeply degrading it is. If it's not degrading and just discussing differences that may offend, I'm not against that, I've even engaged in debates on the side of noticing differences (not with race, with sex and therefore trans). I am not transphobic in my own opinion but stuff I've posted here in debates about 'ignoring sex completely being wrong' are things I probably would be very hesitant to post elsewhere outside of a private chat with someone I trust.
How do you reconcile differences that may be “derogotary” with pure differences. For example, if I say Blacks are dumber than whites because of their inherent brown structure and provide evidence, should I be banned?
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I hereby suspend my campaign for President in favor of Wylted.
#WyltedForPrez
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@RationalMadman
Should a person who makes rational and fact based (either sources, etc) arguments about their support of racism, sexism, transphobia, etc be banned?
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@RationalMadman
I’ve dropped out my friend. Wylted is officially running.
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I officially drop my candidacy for President and nominate Wylted for President. He has agree to make me his VP
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@RationalMadman
Ilikepie5 actually broke the rule of not campaining in a thread that isn't his campaign thread:
What part of any of that was campaigning? I was responding to allegations against me, not promoting a vote for me lol
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@oromagi
How does it feel to know you were wrong this entire time?
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@RationalMadman
@whiteflame
Vote yes and get on with it. Supa is a moron, but the game is practically solved
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I’m spammed him like 50 times to get on but he still doesn’t
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@RationalMadman
He seems to think we are voting who we think the spies are, I think that's why I thought putting me and Earth together was a good plan.
Pretty sure he said us 2 were top candidates for spies but nothing
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@RationalMadman
Earth is voting yes to a team with me in it, do you know what that means? What was the mission 1's team?
He’s willingly voting yes to a team with his spies on it lol
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@RationalMadman
So why aren’t you voting yes?
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@RationalMadman
Gotta find a replacement first. In the meantime why tf not vote yes? Do you now believe Supa is the second Spy?
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@RationalMadman
It's both. Why else am I not voting yes?I don't care if we win, I care that the gamethrower here comes to apologise and realise how wrong they've been.
They’re only gonna realize it once the game is over unfortunately
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@RationalMadman
Idc then turn on me at your own expense, it doesn't bother me at this point. There is a directly gamethrowing Resistance player (possibly 2) that has to be absolutely handled ASAP and replaced out or taught how to correctly interpret the game.
First you say you don’t care then you imply that you do. Which is it?
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@RationalMadman
You changing your mind is sketchy af. You already said it yourself that Earth’s voting pattern is just idiotic. It’s the same stuff here
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@RationalMadman
Why is this sketchy? I literally explained every possibility
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@RationalMadman
vote yes before he changes his mind hurry
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@Earth
@RationalMadman
@Vader
@whiteflame
@oromagi
Vote
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@RationalMadman
That’s honestly what I was thinking. It doesn’t matter at this point. Neither of the two care enough to even play the game. Earth is literally AWOL.
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@oromagi
If you think the team is exactly me and RM. What incentive do we have to play a Resistance card?
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@oromagi
Why is RM more of a spy than Earth when RM has been part of a successful resistance mission. Do you realize how dumb your logic is?
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@Vader
@oromagi
Earth hasn’t even defended himself. All he literally just is come, vote, dip. No strategizing at all.
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@oromagi
I think I've been clear- Pie and RM are my two top spy reads. Therefore, I support a team with me and my 3 top Res reads.
You have no reasoning just to let you know. If you’re the Spy, you’re gonna win this game based on Supa’s idiocy.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I know, I’m waiting for a response. This game doesn’t really work as well cause you’re reliant on other people
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@oromagi
yes I read it. Pie has some feelings about some things. got it.
What sounds illogical to you?
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@oromagi
I think I've been clear- Pie and RM are my two top spy reads. Therefore, I support a team with me and my 3 top Res reads.
Did you even both reading Post 50? There is no world where RM is a Spy purely based on Earth’s responses and actions?
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@RationalMadman
I think whiteflame has outplayed us both and that supa and oro are absolute trolls, that's my genuine theory at this point.
Nah, Earth/WF team makes no sense here
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@Vader
I really wanna see how you defend this. It’s idiotic
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@Vader
RM/oroRM/EarthEarth/oroPie/RM
Read post 50 please. At this point you have to believe it’s Earth/Oro
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@Vader
I put my team in the second round because I trust RM the most out the pile, I trust to a degree Earth, and have an unclear read on WF. If the mission were to fail, I'd know WF or Earth as spies
You realize that at least one among Earth and RM are Spies right? Why do you trust Earth over RM? At least RM has played a resistance card?
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@Vader
It does not matter who you pick. Even if you leave out one of the spies another spy is going to play the fail card. It makes no difference who we are sending out
That makes no sense. There are 2 spies. 4 resistance people can go on the mission lol.
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@RationalMadman
Can you bold where I said that. I’m confused
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@RationalMadman
Oro voted no on Oro+Pie+RM, I never had WF on my team.
Where’d I say that?
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@Vader
@oromagi
Earth/RM - Doesn’t make sense at all. Why wouldn’t Earth want partner RM on a team at beginning.
Earth/Pie - Doesn’t make sense for same reason above
Earth/Oro - Conceivable
Earth/Supa - Conceivable (probably most likely)
Earth/WF - Doesn’t make sense based on Earth voting behavior. Rejected all missions with WF on it. Plus WF could easily play Spy card and blame Pie/RM
***RM doesn’t make sense as Spy based on R1 interactions between Pie and Earth. Earth slips multiple times with the most profound being my questioning of who he believes is Spy out of Supa/Oro. He says he doesn’t know but believes Pie/RM is the team. Those two beliefs don’t work. Earth’s voting behavior doesn’t make sense either. Everyone
RM/Pie - Doesn’t make sense based on italics above. Also the fact that there was no reason for RM to reject Oro+Pie+WF and leave floor open to more debate on pairs.
RM/Oro - Doesnt make sense for Oro to vote No on Pie+WF+RM because RM is already sus and it’s a free Spy card.
RM/Supa - Doesn’t make sense based on R2. No reason for Supa to vote No on Oro+Pie+RM mission because partner is already sus. Free Spy card.
RM/WF - Doesn’t make sense. Same reason why Earth/WF can’t be a viable team. WF is blatantly Town.
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@RationalMadman
I can’t tell if Oro is throwing. He’s done it before as a towny in a mafia game. Supa though I’d expect to not think logically so it’s hard
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@Vader
@oromagi
Justification and reasoning for your vote?
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@RationalMadman
It’s confirmed Supa or Oro though now. One of em is being a total moron.
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@Vader
@oromagi
One of you is Spy. The other: why tf would you ever vote yes to this?
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