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@whiteflame
If he’s the Bomb, then that’s not the worst thing to lose, and I’m not seeing enough reason to go for Disc at this point, though I will note that his absence from the lynch (when he is the only other viable choice) is stark.

VTL Pie
WHAT? Are you out of your mind? How tf is Bomb not the worst thing to lose. Especially compared to a freakin Miller?

Sometimes I wonder why I even play 

*sigh*

Atrocious decision
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@Earth
Can you please explain why you sus me over Disc? Cause Disc would have the exact same reasons.

Just look at my claim for example. Fine you don’t believe it. But look at Disc’s his is even worse than mine. First he’s not even in the show. Second there are other characters like Gary Oak that make much more sense than Mewtwo as Miller.
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@Earth
They might kill me tonight.
This is just hypothetical. The point is if Supa wants to consider balance than he can’t just say one role doesn’t exist and make it fit. If a Doctor doesn’t exist, a Bomb makes sense and vice versa.

Same thing with Innocent Child
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@Vader
Essentially, I just don't think it makes for this game to have a bomb . We have a 3xcop and a tracter + doc. To have a bomb that kills lethal actions w/o a Vig seems very overpowered
It’s a flavored Bomb. So it’s a 50/50 shot that they wouldn’t even know about if we hadn’t been boneheaded to mass claim.

Doctor could save scum (asking Poly about it) 
Enabler makes it weak for Tracker.

We don’t even know if Earth is really a Doctor cause he failed to protect Lunatic. What if he fails to protect you tonight? What’s the balance like without a Doctor?
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@oromagi
What do you think of Whiteflame's backdown?
He’s the only one using a brain right now is my opinion on it. The PRO/CON list is significantly better for a Disc lynch than mine


Supa has flawed logic
I don’t even know what Earth is doing
Wylted just wants to follow Luna
You’re following Supa
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@Vader
Nah this Disc train is pretty fucking stupid

1. Cop is in this game. It would make sense for there to be a Miller in this game. Works better than a Bomb claim
This is a square is a rectangle situation. If a Cop exists, a Miller doesn’t have to exist. If a Miller exists, a Cop has to exist. If there is no GF/Framer/Lawyer, which scum know, then it’s a relatively safe claim.

2. Pie was originally claiming only scum can kill him until I asked about vig
I mean I had no reason to believe a Vig or a Gun Giver, or anything similar existed. I’ve said my role is the Bomb and anyone who targets me dies. Now can the Doctor possibly save scum? Idk. I’ll ask Poly.

3. Pie was originally hesitant and refused to mass character claim because he hadn't thought of a claim yet
It wasn’t even my turn to mass claim yet cause popcorn was on Earth. And if I recall you were against claiming too. You’re also ignoring that my partner would’ve already claimed by the time I claimed. This is a weak argument even for you. I’m against mass claiming on principle barring extenuating circumstances. You can look back at any game you want.

Sorry, I'm not hopping on Disc
It’s the optimal lynch but ok. Me and Lunatic burned y’all with a Miller even when a Cop existed. Your choice I guess.
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Has town really lost its critical thinking skills today?

*sigh*
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@Wylted
That bomb claim is suspect and lunatic did want to vote pie. I guess I will honor lunatic and do what he would have wanted, if he were still alive. Let's lynch pie in honor of our fallen comrade

Unvote VTL Pie
Cmon man, a Miller is way more suspect.

Lunatic wanting to vote me is WIFOM with regards to the NK. That’s exactly what mafia want you to do. Kill me. Killing me makes the game so much easier for them. And Luna was just after me cause he wants to the win the ego war we’ve been having for the past few games when I ended him and Poly
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@Earth
Would a Mafia!Pie fakeclaim Charzard?
The correct question is why would mafia Pie fake claim Charizard over Voltorb.

Either way you have completely disregarded Disc’s character who isn’t even in the show, rather the movie. You’ve also disregarded that fact that Gary Oak would be a far better Miller claim than MewTwo.

If you think I’m scum, then you have to admit that Disc is scum as well just because of the Pokémon claims themselves. Our lynches are equal in this statement but there’s one thing that elevates me - my claim. Miller vs Bomb.
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@Earth
Pie repeatedly said that he wouldn't have claimed Charzard if he's mafia because Voltorb would be better. That is WIFOM.
But what’s the reasoning behind it? If you wanna claim WIFOM there’s has to be an outlasting reason why I would claim Charizard?

With no other explanation it’s quite obvious I claimed that because Poly gave me the character Charizard and role Bomb


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@Earth
This is clearly WIFOM. 
What’s WIFOM?


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@whiteflame
The Disc lynch is still on the table. I’d like to see someone other than Pie and Evil support it, but I’ve been on Pie because I feel the reasoning there is slightly stronger. Asked you a bit ago why you voted Disc, would appreciate an answer.
What reasoning do they have? Their reasoning is extremely weak compared to my own.
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@Wylted
Is disc a viable target still or do I need to lynch pie to end the dp?
Disc is still viable. I just have to convince Whiteflame and once Whiteflame flips, Oro. 

The reasoning Supa and Earth have put, you have to admit are horrible compared to the reasoning I’ve put out there. I’m like 90% sure this game is solved based on Disc’s flip.

If Disc flips scum, the last scum is in Evil, Oro, Whiteflame, likely Evil because Mewtwo and Gary were both evil

If Disc flips town then POE is rather simple. You can confirm yourself DP4 cause we No Lynch DP3 cause MYLO. I’m somewhat confirmed cause Pokemon can exist. Supa is town. Earth is town cause protective role. This leaves Oro, WF, Evil with 2/3 being scum. In this scenario an Oro/WF or WF/Evil scenario is most likely. Either way we lynch WF
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@oromagi
Post 257 explains my reasons for voting Disc.


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@Earth
@whiteflame
@oromagi
Also, y’all realize that I was practically the last one to character claim right? Why would I choose Charizard over Voltorb if Voltorb fits better? 
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@oromagi
If it's Disc or Pie or don't really have a strong conviction either way.   Based on characters, Mewtwo still seems scummier than Charizard.  However, I don't know Pokémon.  Lunatic was convinced Charizard was the scummier claim. 
Lunatic also has an ego complex against me. His mass claim put us into this position in the first place.

Whiteflame seems to feel the same way. 
Don’t really know where he stands at the moment.

I think Supa has a pretty good gut when it comes to Pie.  I don't have a strong argument here, I am more trusting Whiteflame & Supa's convictions.  
Supa has horrible reasoning if you read his post. He thinks the game is broken if I exist and a Vigilante doesn’t.

Supa’s gut hasn’t been right about me in a while either
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@Earth
Charzard would work for something like odd night PGO or something. Voltorb would work better. Bombs kill themselves along with who tried to kill them. Charzard doesn't work like that.
A PGO is OP in this game lol. Don’t know much about Voltorb, who’s that? Does he kill himself along with whoever he attacks? And is he a mainstream character?
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@Earth
Its funny that you say Mewtwo's justification for being miller is odd when you are Charzard claiming to be bomb.
This is a false analogy. Gary Oak is a mainstream character in the show itself (not movie) and goes from bad to good. Hell Evil’s own justification makes him a better Miller than Disc.

As for my character, Charizard is pretty main in the show from what I’ve heard (not the movie) and it is like the ownly main character that fits the role. If you can think of any other mainstream Pokémon that fit my role that’s fine. 

Either way, you have to run under the assumption that if I’m scum, Disc has to be scum too cause we’re Pokémon, and you seem to be ignoring that. I have more utility if alive while Disc just causes more confusion if he’s alive at MYLO or later.

Additionally I still think you been trying to buddy with me the whole game.
I don’t think you realize what buddying means lol
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@whiteflame
This isn’t good reasoning, Evil. It’s good reason for being frustrated, but it’s not going to recruit anyone to VTL Disc. At least with Pie, he’s giving me some utility-based reasons to vote, though that doesn’t really tell me why Disc is more likely to be scum (looks a bit like weak bussing to me). It’s not at all unusual for someone to sus another player on the basis that they are largely absent from the game. Hell, we did it last game and landed on scum (Poly) partially as a result of his inactivity. Anyone can come up with any excuse for not being around. We can’t verify it. You may have been absent for perfectly good reasons, and even if you we’re, the VTL functions as a way to  push you to increase your activity. It didn’t start a substantial wagon so you weren’t in danger of actually being lynched, either.
Evil is in my null pile because attributing reasons to noobs is extremely hard. He could just be saying what his partner tells him to, or he’s just a noob doing noob things like this. Either way Disc is the optimal lynch. I have much more utility than he does and his claim is extremely suspect.
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@Earth
I am going to lynch Pie. The circumstances around Evil voting Discipulus_Didicit and the fact Pie is always on mind keeps me from voting anyone else 
Evil is a noob so it’s hard to read him honestly. And I’m curious what the bolder portion means. I’ve outlined the reasons why Disc is a good option today and right now (correct me if I’m wrong) you’re on me cause you don’t like me lol.

Vtl Pie

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@Earth
@Vader
@oromagi
Why are we on Disc
Cause he’s scum. I’ll outline the reasons.

He claims he’s the Miller as MeeTwo when Gary Oak would fit that much better with the same justification and being a character in the show.

Mewtwo doesn’t appear at all in the show; rather, he appears in the movie, which is unique to him and only him. Disc also knows a lot about the theme so a fake claim like that is within his realm.

Scum, if they don’t have a GF, Lawyer, or Framer can easily claim Miller even if there’s a Cop.

I don’t want to deal with a Miller are MYLO and I’d say no one wants to either.

Last reason is in the off chance Disc flips town it means Pokémon do exist in the game and my claim is strengthened a bit. On the contrary if Disc flips scum I’ll be on the chopping block which is fine with me since we’d still have one more mislynch available to help with POE


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@Earth
@Vader
@whiteflame
DP has come to a standstill
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@oromagi
There’s no reason to lynch Wylted today because his affiliation will be revealed DP4.

Let’s lynch Disc
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@Polyglot
You listed Wylted twice
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@whiteflame
I'm currently most sus of Pie and Disc. I still think their Pokémon claims stand out too much to ignore. If Evil remains intransigent when it comes to providing his claim, then I'll have to change my vote and reconsider a possible Oro/Evil pair. But for now, I'm sussing Pie just a bit more than I am Disc. I think that both his role and claim stand out as odd enough to set them apart, and given that we know there was a Cop, I think there's at least more reason to believe there is a Miller than that there is a Bomb.

VTL Pie

We do still have time in the DP and I want us to use it, but for now, I think Pie is the best pick.
Just because a Cop exists doesn’t mean a Miller has to exist. If scum don’t have a GF, Lawyer, Framer, they can accurately fake claim Miller with very good odds.

I also think my utility is much much more than Disc. If Disc flips town, then we know Pokémon are fair game solidifying my character and role for POE purposes. If Disc flips scum then we will see his real character and role and then make a decision. 
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@Earth
I'll need to sleep on it.
We have a ton of time
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@Lunatic
While I tend to lean left socially and politically, I almost get more pissed off by ultra libtards like Brie Larsen then I do by  the dumbass redneck conservatives. I refused to watch Captain Marvel after she displayed her retarded views on gender equality. But she also isn't really an actor worth watching. Kind of like Kristen Stewart, just seems dead in the face and feels like she's reading lines on a paper/ 
Captain Marvel getting bitch slapped by Thanos was the most satisfying moment in all of Marvel imo
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@Earth
We also need to consider that mafia might be fakeclaiming their characters.
Agreed. I still think Disc is the optimal lynch today.
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@Earth
He isn't. I just put up a reads list in haste. 
Just clarifying, cause you said bottom most is scum and top most is town.
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@Earth
But that might not make sense. If Miller is "Seems to be like X (mafia), but isn't." then that implies the theme is Good vs evil, but that might not be the case. The theme could be anything. Gary would be a better miller pick.
I definitely agree that Gary would be a better Miller claim. I said it earlier in the DP too, which makes me suspicious of Disc’s claim even more.

Maybe the theme is good vs evil and mafia is team rocket.
It’s possible the theme would be good vs evil and Disc + Evil are scum. Mewtwo could easily be a vanilla compared to Gary, with the latter being a protagonist in the show I think.
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@Lunatic
You don't watch comedy!? I mean that explains some things ;-)

jk 
Half of em are liberal hacks. Plus it’s late in the night so I’m asleep 
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@Earth
Townreads

Whiteflame
Supas
Why is whiteflame above Supa? 
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@Earth
My justification is that is I am in every city healing pokemon, but only Pokemon. I am going to be irritated if I am flavored to only heal pokemon.
Thank You.

I disagree with the Mewtwo thing. It would not make sense if there is a "Villains mafia"  theme where villians are town and good guys the mafia. Depending on what the theme is, whether or not Mewtwo learns what friendship is from Ash is pointless because the theme could be something completely unrelated to the fact that Mewtwo is evil or not.
I’ve been on Disc from the start because of the Miller claim. It’s fairly easy for scum to claim Miller if they don’t have a GF, Lawyer, or Framer on their side. 

The justification I think you misinterpreted. It says that Mewtwo was bad then good meaning good would be town.
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/in

A theme I don’t know much about again *sigh*
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@Wylted
scum team have no reason to let that reveal happen. Docgor is probably dead np2, and I will die np3
So you want to get lynched? 

If you’re telling the truth, you’re a valuable asset for us cause right now scum have 3 good targets if you’re telling the truth: You, Earth, and Supa
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@Vader
Wylted's claim
I find it concerning too but the solution is rather simple — one that we’ve done in the past. Let him live until DP4. If he’s lying he won’t be revealed and we lynch him.
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@Earth
Don't rely on justification. My Justification is short and Mewtwo doesn't make much sense either.
Actually, you haven’t posted a justification yet either have you? I’d like to hear it please.

I think at least some justification analysis ought to be done. With Disc, his justification is Mewtwo is bad and then becomes good which fits a Miller description. Luna and Bron had good justifications. Looking for patterns is important.
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@Evilgenius
Why are you blocking Wylted?
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@Wylted
Evil genius blocking me is Indicative of him being some sort of alt. He probably has more experience than he is letting on. 

Not sure if he is pretending g to be a noob to disguise his identity or disguise that he is scum though.
That is extremely scummy if true.
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@Evilgenius
you totally discarded my reasons for being a newbie..now that has totally given me full confidence that you are scum .. you have outed yourself and you being mewtwo doesn’t help either
Can you please explain what this means?

And also can you explain your justification in your PM as to why Gary Oak is Vanilla?
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@Double_R
That wasn’t part of the hypothetical. I always find it telling when someone cannot answer a hypothetical without concocting new factors to suit their position and then bootstrapping them onto the original question.
Ah but see, what I’m doing is called critical thinking. You on the other hand just see 9 doctors and you’ll agree with whatever they say.

You understand full well that this hypothetical was intended to be as simple as possible in order to focus in on a very simple idea which you are not trying to obfuscate, so this is just dishonest.

As far as you can tell, all doctors are of equal qualifications. Now what?
You telling me that’s true is akin to the authority telling me it’s true. I’ll do my own research and get back to you.


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@RationalMadman
I’m not a fan of paying money into a game cause I think I’ll eventually get bored and stop playing and it’ll be a waste. Thanks for the info tho!
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@Reece101
I’m not playing the ‘what if’ game.

Read what I said to Athias. In general, quantity of professional opinion is quality. 
Then you my friend need to utilize your critical thinking skills more.

Cause quantity isn’t always better than quality. If it were Copernicus and people like him wouldn’t have done research.


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@Reece101
How is 9 doctors telling you that you need surgery indistinguishable from 9 friends telling you that you won’t be harmed if you stab yourself in the eye?

Are you saying its better to self-diagnose when it comes to serious health problems? Let’s run your logic to its conclusion. 
What if it’s 9 doctors from the poorest regions of Africa vs 1 Board Certified American Doctor?

The point is that you have to look into who the authority is even if quantity is present because quantity =/= quality.
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@oromagi
I was just thinking we should all agree there's too many VANILLAs.
If you count IC and Miller too for sure

If you are selecting from a cast of characters for VANILLA-like qualities, does rival Gary Oak or Narrator really qualify as VANILLA. 
Don’t really know cause I don’t watch the show but based on what people have said the Narrator does practically nothing so he makes more sense.

Gary Oak is odd, I feel like he’d make a better Miller than MeeTwo based on the fact he used be enemies with Ash and then was best buddies. I feel one of Disc and Evil is scum. Leaning towards Disc though.

I'd say no but MISTY is like his best friend- she doesn't seem very VANILLA either.
You’d have to ask Earth or DD. No one has said much about Misty and possible roles for her. I still put you in my null pile I posted earlier 

I don't know.  If I had to pick between WhiteFlame and EG, I'd probably pick Whiteflame- his character claim is off-brand and his play has been quite reserved, in spite of being the subject matter expert. No real scum hunting.  WF is probably also liklier SCUM than any first-timer game mechanic wise.
I think Whiteflame has played to his meta. Me and him were alive together for the last two games to solve the game. I’ve always had a hard time finding his scum tells so he could be scum even though I find him helpful and towny because I just find it hard to read him.

Also if Wylted is telling the truth, the game has to be randomized cause he’s the Inno Child twice in a row which is statistically unlikely so it’s possible Evil is scum. We normally let noobs go but with a strong player like Disc or Wylted guiding him, it’s conceivable.

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I feel like one of the Vanillas has scum so 

WF, Oro, Evil

And then one of the claimed roles has scum

Disc, Wylted, Earth 
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@Wylted
My justification is that I am popular and help a lot of people. I know it doesn't make sense, but that is the paraphrased justification 
Rather weak justification compared to everyone else.
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@Wylted
I really hate that it is the same role 2 games in a row, but I have no control over that
Really really coincidental if you’re not scum but we’ll see day after tomorrow.
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@Wylted
I really wanted to wait a day, but since everyone else seems to be claiming. Innocent Child dp4. It's why I thought a cop made no sense.  The tracker on top of that seems really town sided
Very interesting. Bodes well if the game doesn’t even reach DP3. Either way even if you are scum we can get to DP4 and expose you as long as we NL tomorrow and game doesn’t end with a mislynch.
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Claims List

Bron - Professor Oak - Enabler for Ash
Luna - Officer Jenny - Cop

Disc - Mewto - Miller
Oro - Misty - Vanilla
Earth - Nurse Joy - Doctor
Wylted - Brock - ???
Whiteflame - Narrator - ???
Evil - Gary - Vanilla
Supa - Ash - Tracker
Pie - Charizard - Bomb



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