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@Wylted
would you lynch whiteflame if I gave you a way to test Earth's claim tonight?
If I could believe you and knew for certain you’re not pulling any shenanigans
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I wanna add a vote
Thread: Why are we banning Wylted
Brought a whole lot of attention to modding practices
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@n8nrgmi
that's basically saying the same thing as 'not yet fda approved' as i assume the fda would consider long term data.
Yes they would consider long term data which is is why this was emergency approved
i looked it up, and the death rate is on average .7% for the whole population. one in a thousand for people under forty. it only gets higher for people older. folks in their forties are two or three deaths per thousand. we also know that every credible authority thinks the vaccine is safe and effective.
Long term impact means years in the future not a couple of months
are you cool with that high of chance of dying, just because there theoretically could be side effects, even though science doesn't know of any and doesnt expect any?
I got the vaccine. I’m just giving the argument. Science as you know is based on hypothesis. This is a hypothesis without a clear degree of certainty simply because of the fact that it’s untested in the long term.
It’s the same thing with vaping. No one knows what the long term impacts of that is yet
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@n8nrgmi
No long term data on impacts of mRNA vaccines.
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@whiteflame
Also I don’t know what behavior you are looking for. The one time he was scum was my game where he was caught cause of POE
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I think it’s pretty obvious to me that Earth is scum and I will be pushing him tomorrow as well
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@whiteflame
I can’t say I’m convinced on the Earth train. His behavior hasn’t stood out as too odd to me yet. We’d need a few more votes, anyway.
Fuck his behavior. We have two minutes and we need to do POE. Lynch him
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@Wylted
pie, statistics only work looking forward not backwards.
We are looking forward though lol. Plus we should be lynching here. At the very least it narrows POE, though I’m confident he’s scum
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@Lunatic
@Wylted
@whiteflame
@oromagi
@MisterChris
We have 32 minutes left, and Poly likely won’t come on. Lets lynch Earth rather than lynching completely blind. Earth is our best chance at this point. The odds are in our favor. There’s like a 1% chance he’s Bodyguard after fake claiming bodyguard
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@Earth
I mean, it IS a coincidence.
If it’s a coincidence then oh well. But as Disc said even if it is a 50% chance (in reality it’s probably higher) you’re the optimal lynch.
I literally can't grasp your logic. It is beyond my comprehension. My role doesn't work because you decide it is unlikely?
The odds are low. Especially if Supa used RNG which he does for his games
Or that its unlikely that Town has multiple protective roles? Insider knowledge?
What? You’ve been incriminating yourself this entire game lmao whether it was the interaction with Wylted or your role. Either way your logic is at best WIFOM
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@Wylted
I know he likes fake claiming that one also, but I feel it is coincidence
I feel it is not. He was forced to claim after all the pressure remember
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@Wylted
are you a protective role? If you are just admit it so we can make a good lynch. Having us trust you is wierd. Either your analysis here is bad, or you are hiding your motives for sussing earth
I am not a protective role. Earth’s role is just so convenient
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@Polyglot
You should full claim so we can move back to Earth
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My vote is staying on Earth. We don’t have much to lose in terms of numbers. The odds are just so low statistically.
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@Double_R
In reality however there is no one point, which is why I said earlier there’s a big grey area in the middle where it could go either way.
Technically conception is the line.
Pro lifers believe conception is the line
Pro choice (though not a majority of Americans) define it as removal of the baby form inside of the mother through a normal delivery or a C-Section
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@Polytheist-Witch
We're discussing the unborn having rights if you're going to be like this then I don't need to respond to you again thanks.
Your argument is circular. Unborn don’t have rights.
Why?
Because they don’t deserve rights
Why?
Because they’re not human
Why are they not human?
Because they don’t have rights
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@Polytheist-Witch
Birth is the criteria that establishes humanness.
Scientifically this is false. A unique DNA code identifies something as human.
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@TheMorningsStar
Very interesting OP. Never looked at it from this perspective being pro life myself
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@Earth
Like this is what Wylted said.
Ya he said it to me in a form of observation
However I am supposed to interpret Wylted's post, this to me implies that Wylted finds it odd that when I am at L1, his vote is lost.
What isn’t odd about that. But it has nothing to do with you being a vote stealer
So clearly the conclusion is that there is a role at play. That was my mindset so to why Wylted thinks I am a vote stealer. Wylted's obsessed with voting roles.
Sure there is a role at play. He didn’t blame you though - just the fact that it was happening
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@Earth
Wylted thinks any shenanigans with votes is a vote stealer. Do you expect me to just let Wylted imply I had something to do with his vote? Not that it matters because Sups seems to have corrected the error.
But he didn’t imply you had something to do with it. He pinged me and just made an observation that he couldn’t vote for you at L1. He never accused you of being a vote stealer or anything like that.
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@Earth
That comment was in response to Wylted who basically openly wondered why his vote wasn't working when he voted me/or when I was at L-1.
How would that imply you’re a vote stealer?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't recall him saying that, you know something we don't?
Must’ve misremembered then oops
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@oromagi
Supa's FIrst Rule of Pie: Pie is inactive when scum or vanilla.Observation: Pie is inactiveObservation: Pie is not VANiLLA. If Pie was VANiLLAa he would not suppose role madness.Speculation: Pie might be scumOro's Third Rule of Pie: lol is Pie's scum tellObservation: Pie just lol'dSpeculation: Pie might be scum
We’re still on this 🤦♂️
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@Wylted
@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
Also look at Post 155. No one accused Earth of being a vote stealer or anything and he instantly becomes defensive
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If there is a 50% chance he is scum then I am 100% down to lynch him. 50% are good odds and even if he is telling the truth bodyguard is basically vanilla for power level so no huge loss.
I mean the odds have to be insane for it to happen. Bodyguard was the fake claim they used - Earth thought of it on his own btw.
I think Supa also said this game was role madness? Just like my game where he fake claimed Bodyguard. He just doesn’t come off the same way in this game as Lunatic’s game where he was town either
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@Earth
Pretty great given that I was BG like the game before.
When we’re you the BG lol
Also there hasn't really been much to stand out to me. Maybe mafia isn't for me lol.
Don’t even know what this means.
Also what the fuck? Hissy fit? I literally had to be put in L-1 for me to claim. How was that not a hissy fit?
That’s not what I meant. I mean you’d put up at least a bit of resistance in terms of what you say in your posts.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Is this how Earth usually acts as town? I have never played with him that I can remember.
He likes to play passive both as scum and Town. But behaviorally right now I still read him as scum. As town he’d throw a hissy fit bit here for there being a wagon but he just softly claims and moves on? Plus on top of that bodyguard was his fake claim last time. The chances of him getting the role he fake claimed his last scum game are insanely low. I’ll reread more of his scum game tho - it was Ancient Roman Battles
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@Earth
Literally just did. Everyone is null.
Ok….why is everyone null?
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Last time Earth was scum he was gonna claim (and he did claim) bodyguard.
What are the odds that his role right now is the same one he fake claimed as scum?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
This from Wylted is enough for me to townread him for now. I don't think anyone brought up the fact that role justifications seem weak in this game yet (at least mine does).
Poly has brought it up
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@MisterChris
Not a good justif for a lynch train.
Inactivity isn’t a good justification for pressure? Ok lol
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He’s still the most inactive. Plus we gotta move the game forward
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@Lunatic
@Wylted
@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
@MisterChris
Help me pressure Earth please
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We’re honestly just running in circles here. Yes Oro does his soft claiming - it’s not affiliation indicative. Yes Wylted gets annoyed by it as he’s said in the past. Idt him voting for Oro is scummy at all. The whole thing about mass claim excludes this key phrase: “how well it relates to your role.” Also the fact that he claimed first. If his justification is garbage then there is zero harm in him character claiming. He qualifies that you really shouldn’t be claiming if the justification between fast food place and role is strong.
The only thing we have going for is this game is behavior and night actions.
I’m interested in Earth because of his mention of third parties. The old saying is that mentioning this is a sign of scum. Plus it’s a cover for “engaging” in the game. In fact that has been his only post.
VTL Earth
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If they claim their real role, even better. Makes it easier on us if they fake claim their role and justifications are stretchy
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@Discipulus_Didicit
There is no theme split. You are talking out of your ass.
Yes we know there is no split but CCs exist. If Wylted according to you is scum, his real character is In N Out or In N Out is a fake claim
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Everyone has checked in but Speed. I’d be ok with getting a claim from him
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@Wylted
No theme split means no reason not to character claim other than how well it relates to your role. I'll just claim. In and out burger.
I think that’s a great reason why you shouldn’t character claim lol
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@Vader
When PMs going out
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