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@fauxlaw
Is it coincidence both are in FL? They can't be a P/VP ticket.
Trump can just move his residency to like Nevada or something. It’s an easy fix, though it would be crazy if the issue went to the Supreme Court
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Wonder what the arrogant users that think/thought/said/typed that he is innocent will say now?
What I’ve always said? If they find him guilty, they find him guilty lol.
Let me guess; ohhhh the jury said he's guilty so now we believe he's guilty and never backed him being innocent oh yeah we're sooo openminded.
I think he’s innocent but a jury found him guilty and I’ll accept that decision even if I disagree with it. He’ll probably appeal which is within his right to do so, so we’ll see how it goes from there.
Learn to admit you're wrong. Learn to take a stance that you feel proud of or regret later on. Stop being a spineless coward who has no thoughts on anything.
Wrong about what? That I thought the jury was gonna find him not guilty? Sure lol. I don’t mind admitting I was wrong when I thought that. I personally thought he should be acquitted and I still do, but the process found him guilty so he’s guilty.
Admit you were wrong.
Again about what?
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@Lemming
I accept that the verdict that's been reached, is the verdict that's been reached.Doesn't mean I 'agree with it, but you won't find me rioting.
You’re a very rational man and I 100% agree
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@Lunatic
Go for it, you’re one of the best DART Mafia players
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@Greyparrot
Lookie here, it’s another person triggered that I say lol in every post
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Can I ask you something sincerely? I've already hinted at it before but now I have to ask.Why the fuck are you laughing about this?Even if you are ridiculous enough to think he's innocent, how is that funny to you?
Cause he’s guilty as of now but Maxine Waters saying what she said could be a grounds for overturn of the conviction on appeal. Said by Judge Cahill himself. It’s pretty funny cause all she had to do was keep her mouth shut.
And you’re clearly very sensitive. I say lol in like every post I make. It’s just a habit at this point
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@Greyparrot
Bound to be guilty in liberal Hennepin County. It is what it is. They’re probably gonna appeal and imma laugh if it’s overturned cause of Mad Maxine
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@TheUnderdog
Interstate state travel =/= international travel
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@Greyparrot
Riots all but guarantee a hung jury at this point. Mob rule has its drawbacks.
Straight up mistrial if it has to go to appeal because of Mad Maxine
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@TheUnderdog
This is a “racism” issue but is there a shred of evidence this was racial? Nope.
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@fauxlaw
Shall we consider all the evidence in this trial, huh? Or do you accept a partial view?
Ofc not because nothing else can be considered as evidence besides a 9 minute video. God bless this country.
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@coal
Hes not gonna do that cause he gets triggered easily
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How few people would make a decent game? What would you say the minimum is? 7?
9-10
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@Earth
That was an awful mafia game.
You got hella unlucky mate
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/in if I’m allowed to plau
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@FourTrouble
I've never been wrong about a fake result btw. This game continues the trend.
How’d u figure out he was Miller lol
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FT was extremely anti-town in every way now that I know the daycop was faked.I'd still hesitate to lynch him because why would scum be that obvious.
+1
I knew my FoS wasn’t misguided lol.
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On a side bit note, I told y’all FT can’t have a day cop. Bastard got lucky af
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@Theweakeredge
Um.... to summarize what happened:George was "resisting arrest" in a largely nonviolent manner, he was in a stupor, nor=t dangerous.
He was literally kicking officers. He refused to get into the car even after multiple lawful requests from police officers. The prosecution witnesses who were colleagues of Chauvin testified that Chauvin could’ve tasted Floyd but chose a lower force.
Eventually, the cops, Chavin, got George into the car.They opened the other side doorGeorge, probably being high, went out the door - because of course he did
You clearly haven’t watched the video then.
George was subdued and his neck was crushed by Chauvin's knee (you know, after he had already been prone)
Actually multiple prosecution witnesses stated that the knee was on the upper back and lower neck which didn’t result in any obstruction of either of the two arteries that supplied oxygen to the brain.
This continued for 10 minutes until George died of suffocation
If the arteries that went to the brain were blocked then Floyd would be dead in half a minute which clearly wasn’t the case. Floyd likely died because of his enlarged heart, 70-90% blocked coronary arteries, CO, fentanyl + meth in system, and adrenaline due to resisting earlier.
You do know that the technique isn't allowed by the police handbooks, right? Like - its not like their is some debate if the cops approve (and I don't approve of the cops at all), but even they realize that he fucked up?
False. MPD literally has a picture of that position being taught in the training manual.
Its such an obvious mess up by Chauvin, even if you agree that they were completely in the right to subdue him with the technique initially, it is impossible to justify it for up to 10 minutes.
There are a plurality of factors that a reasonable cop could’ve used to justify placed a knee on the upper back/lower neck. The biggest one being the crowd and the threat of Floyd’s superhuman strength. Multiple prosecution witnesses testified Floyd could still be a threat.
Um... in case you hadn't notice, your larynx and your throat are in your neck - you know - the things you need to breathe.
You don’t know physiology + the knee was on the lower neck/upper back. The prosecution was all over the place first referring to a blood choke and working their way back moving the goalposts everytime.
So even if suffocation wasn't the direct cause of death, if not enough oxygen isn't allowed through the heart over a prolonged period of time, say... 10 minutes, your brain and body can start to suffer permanent damage and then you start to die - its almost like breathing is a core necessary function of living, and restricting the organ that allows that is a bad idea if you want the person to live.
It’s almost like an enlarge heart and 70-90% blocked coronary arteries + fentanyl + meth + massive adrenaline rush + CO couldn’t have the same symptoms. Your whole argument is presented based on a falsehood.
I’ll take a knee to my “neck” any day over what I mentioned above. Only a fool wouldn’t.
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@Greyparrot
These people just rely on the media to spoon feed them the narrative. They don’t watch the trial, which literally lays out the evidence, but instead say Floyd’s neck was “crushed.” Such a shame.
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@Greyparrot
A picture is worth a thousand words and a selectively edited video is worth a thousand lies.
It’s ok, when RM is faced with a video that doesn’t show any context, he’ll realize his mistake 🤷♂️
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@HistoryBuff
oh, i'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were blind and couldn't see the video showing chauvin doing exactly that.
🤦♂️ I don’t even know why I bother.
let me see if I can get this straight. George was already in the car. He refused to get into the car (while already being in it), so Chauvin pulled him out of the car to try to get him into the car..... even you can't think that makes sense.
He was not in the car. His head and legs were out. Officers told him at least 10 time to put his feet and head in the car and Floyd wouldn’t listen. Then the officers tried to forcibly put him in the car, but Floyd continued to resist so they brought him to the ground. That’s what the video shows...if you even bothered to watch it.
apparently you need to watch the video again. George was in the car. Chauvin pulled him out the other side of it and slammed him onto the ground.
You need to watch the video again. Floyd refused to get in the car and was actively resisting by kicking the officers. At this point Chauvin could’ve tased him but he chose a lower lever of force and brought him to the ground.
This isn’t some honeymoon scenario where Floyd got in the car, didn’t do anything, and for no reason Chauvin took him out.
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@Greyparrot
I love how the inability to not be triggered at the slightest offense is always the fault of someone else.
That’s why they need safe spaces
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Yeah this is why I block you and each time you wonder why.
I have never wondered why lol. You do you.
Your replies to my george floyd thread as well as this show 100% bad faith responses.
They really aren’t. I talked about the facts of the case. You’re the one limiting yourself to a 9 minute video, when we both know a 9 minute video doesn’t tell the whole story.
You only respond to trigger negative emotions in me, you never try to understand my viewpoint or even engage with me as a person.
I did engage with you. I talked about the facts. You purposely ignored them and kept talking about a 9 minute video without the hour plus context. I don’t speak from emotion, you clearly do. Enjoy your safe space.
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@Greyparrot
That said, America treats thugs better than anywhere else on the planet. I guarantee if we handed all those Terrorists over to Poland or Saudi Arabia, it would be the end of the problem. Permanently.
100% agree lol
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@AddledBrain
Thank you, Pie, for that thoughtful and reasoned consideration.
The pleasure is all mine, let’s get out of the Middle East and the problem will be solved.
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@RationalMadman
You like to cherry pick and ask irrelevant questions to most things in the politics forum, so I am assuming you were only asking for proof of a negative.
Lol all you did was provide evidence that showed terrorists said there was torture. Whoa, you’re going to believe a terrorist? Congrats, you might as well join ISIS and convert to Islam to wage Jihad on the West.
Provide me evidence a single person was released until it was shut down. Then, when you realise noone was, provide me evidence every single person was guilty.
Why should known terrorists be released lol. If you’re arguing that they aren’t terrorists then you can go argue that with the CIA not me.
I have no sympathy for terrorists. They can go fuck the selves for all I care.
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@Greyparrot
Why do you conflate "solid proof" with a carefully edited video devoid of any context for the sole purpose of funding a media mogul's political debts with money from frightened sheep?
Sheep don’t argue against the Shepherd
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@Greyparrot
Imagine if thug culture wasn't considered a "black skin thang"People might say the justice system actually worked then... I have a dream!
We definitely don’t need red coats lecturing us, I can tell you that much.
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@AddledBrain
Yes, isn't it shameful that a respectable Nation like ours is employing this underhanded tactic ? No wonder we're not respected so much anymore around the World.
We’re not being respected cause our leaders were stupid and getting ripped off left and right. Trump brought leadership. You don’t mess with him. Biden is a pussy lol
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@Greyparrot
Can't wait for BLM to defund racist public hospitals and burn them to the ground. 🤡
They already burned businesses of black people. I wouldn’t put it past them to do this
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@RationalMadman
And all the innocents that they tortured beyond any justifiable level. They never released anyone from it even if they found they were innocent, while it was still in action.
Wanna provide a source? Innocents at Guantanamo Bay. That’s a first. I support torture as a variety of options to get info out. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. But in situations it does work, it can prove valuable.
But tbh we should just gtfo of the Middle East. Problem solved.
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@AddledBrain
The Constitution guarantees of habeas corpus dictate that, If we aren't going to try them, we must let them go. If Cuba wants to try them, then it's on them and their constitution.
The Constitution has an effect only on U.S. soil.
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@Greyparrot
lol, mob social justice. <clownemoji.jpg>
I love it lol
An entitled red coat lecturing Americans on how they should think. We got rid of that a while back no?
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@RationalMadman
Bye. If you'd accept a wrong verdict by the court, you're pretty stupid btw.
A.) You’re not on the jury
B.) You haven’t watched the entire
C.) Your opinion that it’s “wrong” holds no value.
If Chauvin walks he walks, deal with it. In your safe space if you have to :)
Cya
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@RationalMadman
Of course not
Ok. I am no longer interested in having this conversation with you. Have a nice day.
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@RationalMadman
Tell me a single part of the picture it doesn't tell.
Interactions before the cops even got there and before they put him on the ground.
Why the fuck are you even defending it? Tell me how much of the video you even watched.
The 9 minutes? All of it? The footage from before that? Nearly all of it. Hbu? How much of the footage from before have you watched?
Better question: how much of the trial have you actually watched?
Best question: I’ll accept the fact that Chauvin is guilty if the jury convicts him. Will you accept the fact that he’s not guilty if the jury doesn’t convict him or if there’s a hung jury?
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Then they better have a substitute location in mind to keep all the freakin terrorists there.
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