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@Speedrace
Assumes there's 3 scum, there might be two. Or two + warren
I realize that, I’m just trying to forge all the possibilities out there
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@Speedrace
If warren is town, maf won't RB, and we'll waste a cop and be down a townie
You’re forgetting that we have a motivator. Whiteflame can use the second shot on whoever he wants.
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@Speedrace
Why investigate AND shoot warren? That's stupid
That’s the only way to confirm he’s not Judas. Scum can’t roleblock both Drafter and Whiteflame
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Scum 1: Janitor, Ninja, Lawyer, Framer, Strongman, Scout, and Lookout.
Scum 2: Roleblocker
Scum 3: Rolecop or Bus Driver or Redirector
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@drafterman
@Vader
@warren42
@Speedrace
Ok here’s what we’re going to do:
Lynch Warren today —> No Lynch
Whiteflame investigates Warren and someone else
Oromagi motivates Whiteflame
Drafter shoots Warren in the night
If Drafter is roleblocked Whiteflame gets a successful investigation on Warren essentially town confirming him 100%
If Whiteflame gets roleblocked Warren dies and it’s 5-2 anyways.
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@Speedrace
There isn't a godfather :|
I dunno man
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@oromagi
I agree that Warren's justification sucks- it's like saying Al Capone survived the St. Valentine's Day massacre, Of course he survived, he was the perpetrator. The Red Wedding was Frey's doing.
+1
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@warren42
In what world do I, as the godfather, claim lynchproof?In what world do I, as the godfather, suggest our vig shoots me?
In a world where WIFOM exists and in a world where you’re fake claiming
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@warren42
Oh wait, not only am I a lynchproof godfather, I'm a lynchproof godfather that is advocating for myself to be shot as one of the best courses of action.Right.
You’re misrepresenting my thoughts lol.
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@warren42
Why the hell would there be a godfather AND a lawyer/framer JOAT?
Cause town is OP af lol considering my role lol. Either way I’m still thinking about the optimal course of action. We still need Polar’s claim as well.
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@warren42
You’re conveniently leaving out The Godfather part. Mafia weren’t worried about 2 Cop investigations, if that isn’t a clear indication towards a Godfather idk what it
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@warren42
Then whiteflame can investigate me now.
Maybe you’re The Godfather lol
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@warren42
I'm 1x lynchproof since I survived past the Red Wedding and didn't get done in when I was betrayed. This is why I was suspicious of drafter. It's not like we can't both exist, but it was concerning to me.
What do you mean by “done in” I’m this context?
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@warren42
Even better question, if you think I'm Judas why not just not lynch me so I'm still town? lmao that's such a stupid plan.
Cause if you’re scum you skate by
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@Speedrace
If drafter kills warren, then we don't have to waste a lynch testing him. If warren doesn't die, then we know he's Judas. If drafter is RBd, then WF gets a free cop. Win-win
Lots of assumptions. Lemme think about it
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If y’all want my claim I’ll claim it too after Coal, no problem with that cause I’m probably gonna die tonight anyways.
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We’ll get Coal’s claim and then vote Warren twice just in case.
Right now it’s 7-2
DP3: Will be 6-2 or 5-3 (Assuming Warren is Judas)
Then lynch Warren again brings us to 4-2
DP4: If Drafter lives kill him and brings it 3-1
DP5: VTNL
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@Speedrace
Just have Drafter kill warren
He’s probably gonna get role blocked. And frankly I don’t think he should be shooting at all. We have the numbers advantage. No need to let it go.
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Warren is either the 1x Lynchproof or the Judas. I’d wager Judas so we lynch him today. End the DP in a no lynch and lynch him again tomorrow if he turns up guilty in an investigation by WF. I’ll probably die in the night so do that and then if Drafter doesn’t die vote him out.
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@warren42
Can you have an ounce of patience? It took 5 minutes between when I last posted and this. I'm at work, I can't be playing mafia the entire time
Take your time bro, we have 72 hours. Just don’t AWOL like literally all of last day phase.
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@warren42
I'm 1x lynchproof since I survived past the Red Wedding and didn't get done in when I was betrayed. This is why I was suspicious of drafter. It's not like we can't both exist, but it was concerning to me.
Horrible justification lol. Anyways. Do you have to activate it at night or is it a passive. If so have you used and if you have does the DP end if we do lynch you?
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@warren42
Might as well claim bro, your townreads should be the last to claim right?
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@Speedrace
I think I know exactly what you're thinking
Interesting. I’ll have you go at it before me then.
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I may have broken the game. I just need Polar and Warren to claim first.
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@warren42
I don't particularly care if I go before or after him
Then you might as well just claim then
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@oromagi
people should weigh in on that weak hider thing- my experience is that weak hider is the default like Mafiawiki says, speed says no & speed is usually right about such declarations
Weak Hider and Hider are two separate things.
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@oromagi
Dragons wiping out whole armies, masses of undead throwing themselves from cliffs like bombs, giants smashing castles while bristlingwith arrows- great stuff.
This part was definitely great. The story line was ass though.
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@warren42
Do you want to full claim before Coal or after?
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I’m willing to get Warren’s role as well. GoT has so many choices for character that make them seem shitty but good at the same time.
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@warren42
Oh shit I didn't even read the OP, I figured Chris was actually the mime or mimic or something, him being JOAT with cop-manipuating abilities makes me feel better about Whiteflame's results. I doubt there's a godfather on top of that. Ironically, it makes me feel just a tiny bit worse about whiteflame himself since Lunatic has made cops fake claims and even given millers to town to bolster the fake claim.
No fake claims or roles were given
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Elminster - Odd/Even Tracker/Watcher
Oromagi - Motivator
SupaDudz - Miller
Drafterman - Vig/BP
Greyparrot - Hider
Whiteflame - Cop
Speedrace - Vanilla
Polar
Warren
Pie
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Elminster - Odd/Even Tracker/Watcher
Oromagi - Motivator
SupaDudz - Miller
Drafterman - Vig/BP
Greyparrot - Hider
Whiteflame - Cop
Polar
Warren
Pie
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@warren42
I missed a few pages last DP and was going to read in the night but everyone got their actions in so quick I didn't do that, why is he confirmed after NP3?
He claimed he’d die NP3. If he doesn’t die he’s scum, simple. He’s gonna try to WIFOM out of it DP4 but if I’m alive I’m going to crucify him on it.
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@Vader
That would also mean we would have to known there was no cops in this game, but with JOAT abilities such as framer and lawyer, it is obviously used to manipulate a cop, same with me being a miller, there is no way I think WF is scum
I agree. I don’t see a realm where WF is not the cop. WF is probably my strongest town read. Him getting motivated lends credence to Oro but it’s not affiliation indicative but I’m willing to let him go for now.
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@coal
@warren42
Walder Frey, I'm apparently the guy who started the Red Wedding. Basically one of my daughters was supposed to marry a Stark and I even threw in some extra servants and shit but I got fucked over and he married someone else so I had everyone killed but they started it and had it coming
Thank You.
Unvote VTL Coal what is your character?
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@Vader
Which also means Oromagi should be confirmed unless the scum team is oromagi and whiteflame and they are big braining, but with me being a Miller, there needs to be a cop in this game. I also note that MisterChris did not have a role cop as his joat, so it could be possible that wf is a role cop. But an un CC'd cop is extremely strong
It’s possible the last 2 scum are you and whiteflame or whiteflame and Oro, with the latter it doesn’t make sense cause you’re the Miller. I’m worried that there’s a Mafia role that gives all the roles in the game.
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@warren42
Why are you excluding drafter?Other than that I'm fine with your POE (other than me, but that's obvious)
Cause if he doesn’t die NP3 he’s scum. I’m borderline thinking about no lynching tomorrow if it’s 5-2 after today just so we can get Drafter out of the way.
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@warren42
What’s your character. And what does your PM say about that character?
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Ok great.
WF, Drafter, Grey, and Pie shouldn’t be lynched today. Probably Oro as well for now
That leaves Coal, Warren, Speed.
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What’s weird is that they let a Cop go with a possible 2 investigations and roleblocked Drafter instead.
This yields 2 possibilities: there’s a Godfather in addition to the framer and lawyer within the JOAT or they have some type of redirecting role like the Leprechaun I had, but would it redirect both actions is the question. If this is the case then Supa is sus because of the redirect in his PM + the Miller.
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@Speedrace
You were wavering the entire time, I was the one who got warren to hammer
Wym lol, my vote was on Chris for like 10 pages in the DP.
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@Greyparrot
No need to wait.
No need to waste a lynch now when he’ll be confirmed DP4
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@Speedrace
Even though I was the one pushing Chris????????
Coal started it, I pushed it and then you tagged along
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@Greyparrot
No reason to vote Drafter. He’s going to die anyways NP3 and if he doesn’t he’s Scum. He’s gonna try to WIFOM out it if he lives DP4 but lynch all liars and don’t back down from it.
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Speed is also now more sus because of his shitty justification and role PM
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@drafterman
I tried to kill oro ut I was roll blocked. FYI I am currently without power because of the winter storm so this will be my only post for a while as I need to conserve battery.
Interesting. That means WF was left to do 2 investigations assuming Oro did choose WF.
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