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@Greyparrot
The whole GameStop debacle is Trump’s fault. Orange Man so bad he didn’t do anything about even thought he’s not in office anymore
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@HistoryBuff
oh, so the swamp was drained was it? corruption ended? I somehow don't think thats true. Not to mention he failed to win re-election after his disasterous 1st term, and he failed to come up with any proposal at all (let alone implement) health care reform like he kept promising.
It was obvious he was fighting the Swamp lol. If you didn’t realize that in the last 4 years you’re blind lol. Wall Street was against him. The media was against him. Hell the Establishment Republicans were against him.
so you think i need to go and watch a fictional TV show in order to understand politics? But having watched trump make promises that he completely failed to deliver on, or even try to deliver, that isn't something I should look at?
Yes you actually should go watch it to understand how cutthroat these people are. It’s all politics is: screwing people over for your own gain. Why the hell do you think Trump got unified resistance from the elites lol.
we weren't even talking about that. But since you brought it up, this has absolutely nothing to do with Joe Biden. The government hasn't done anything at all. So if the system is corrupt, then it was corrupt under Trump. I seem to recall him promising to drain the swamp... funny how everything is still prettty swampy.
What lol. The fact that Joe Biden’s SEC isn’t doing anything is telling in itself. I wonder why they aren’t doing anything. Oh right cause they’re all funded by Wall Street.
Again, what does this have to do with Joe Biden? He hasn't weighed in on this situation at all as far as I know. So why do you think he is somehow corrupt for something he has nothing to do with?
That’s the point lol. He’s letting Robinhood and Wall Street screw over your average Joe because it benefits his cronies on Wall Street. The people that funded his campaign have to get something back from The Big Man
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@HistoryBuff
That article says that they primarily are opposed to one specific mine, the Twin Metals mine which is a high risk of polluting a major water source. So, like I said, they are not opposed to mining, just the forms of mining that are particularly damaging.
That’s literally the economy of the entire Iron Range. Where else do you propose we get the metals? China right? The same China that would pollute 10x as much. Good job environmentalists.
What regulations are you talking about? the ones that prevent them poisoning people's water? What exactly are these regulations that are raising the prices that you want to get rid of.
Let’s just let the Chinese kill their people then. Gimme a break dude. These are all buzz words. There’s technology in place to reduce all of this stuff. Even if there isn’t why don’t you invest in it so you don’t have to ship off the job to the Chinese who definitely don’t give two shits about their people and the environment.
What exactly are you proposing? What changes do you think need to be made to make it more competitive? and do not tell me "cutting regulation". If that is going to be your answer I want very specific regulations you would propose cutting. If you lack specifics, I will call you out for having no idea what you are talking about.
It was competitive. The Iron Range in Minnesota was booming under Trump. Now it’s gonna go down the drains cause of Joe Biden. I didn’t here shit about the water in the Iron Range of Minnesota within the last 4 years. Did you? I don’t hear the people living in the Iron Range complaining about their water, do you. It’s just posturing put out by your allies in media once again. If I’m saying to leave the status quo. But you just want to close down the mines and let the Chinese do it, which is a million times worse lol
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@HistoryBuff
lol trump massively failed and you still defend him. But someone I'm the one who doesn't understand politics? sure...
He didn’t fail at anything. You think he failed because of your cronies in the media who spoon feed you everything you say here. And yes you don’t understand politics. It’s cutthroat. You literally need to watch House of Cards lol.
so you acknowledge that trump is a failure because he appointed corrupt people and then didn't do anything to reign them in. is that correct?
The GameStop stuff isn’t happening under Trump. It’s happening under President Joe Biden and Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen who are both funded by Wall Street. Oh did I mention the Press Secretary’s brother lost billions for his hedge fund? Guess who’s fighting the people? Joe Biden and his Wall Street cronies.
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@HistoryBuff
democrats aren't against mining. I don't know where you got that idea. They are against specific kinds of natural resource extraction that are particularly damaging. But not mining.
Uh yes they do lol, there was a whole controversy in Minnesota because of this lol. You need these metals to build the solar panels and the batteries.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. Are you advocating for market controls to force up the price up materials so that it is profitable to do mining in america? That doesn't sound like free market Capitolism to me. It sounds like government control of the market. Aren't you supposed to be against that?
What I’m saying is stop regulating the mining industry so prices are lower here and we don’t have to rely on China for the metals lol. Even if labor costs more here, there are a lot of other costs in the value chain that are avoided.
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@Elminster
Has lunatic ever said anything about him not using or liking millers in games ?
I was the Miller in one of his past games. In my Narcos Mafia he fake claimed Miller as scum and got CCed
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@Elminster
Yeah that's what any common sense analysis would tell you.That and miller is likely a good guy which also bothers meI think pie was just thinking way to hard
Negan isn’t a good guy until the most recent seasons. That could be the split - antagonists who become protagonists
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@Vader
I didn't get any perv vibes, or maybe it's because I don't know the show. But apparently my character kidnapped Sasha and Derrell. Did he do something to them because all he said is he made them do tasks. Id
Your character fits it perfectly. Trust me.
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@oromagi
It’s obvious that people have antagonists as their characters. I do as well, but then Luna justifies their actions in a perverted way. That’s the themebut that's not inverted. Inverse reality would be scum=protagonists, no?
Idk lol inverse reality to me literally just seems like shitty people doing shitty things with a justification that they’re doing good.
What you’re saying is a theory to me lol. It could just as easily be my theory
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@Vader
Wait, why did you say you don't know what the theme is but then said you do?
I said i don’t know the thematical split. The theme is inverse reality right? My character does some shitty things but Lunatic justifies it in a perverted way. That’s the theme but scum could have the same stuff
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@oromagi
lol is pie's scum telllynch that bastardstraighttohellovermastereddownthewelllol is pie's scum tell
I use lol for everything lol
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@Elminster
Also I want to hear your theory on what it is before you claim.What is your theory about it ?
It’s obvious that people have antagonists as their characters. I do as well, but then Luna justifies their actions in a perverted way. That’s the theme
The split could be characters who have comics/tv shows vs movies. That was one theory
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@Elminster
This is panicked typing. You just said you didn't know what the theme split is but just because you know the theme split doesn't mean you can solve or that scum have to tell the truth. It's the fact that you have a character that doesn't que you in on what it is when everyone else does
I’m confused dude. Y’all are making zero sense to me right now.
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@Speedrace
If I know the split is "Longest serving members vs not longest serving members," that doesn't tell me which players have characters that are one of the 3 longest serving members :|
Then how do you know the split then lol. At this point all you could have is a theory
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@oromagi
I knew it as soon as soon as I saw Supa's post. So did everybody else except Pie, apparently.Therefore, Pie is scumVTL ILikePie5
If you know the thematic split then who’s scum lol. I know what the fuckin theme is lol
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@Speedrace
Because knowing the split doesn't tell me who scum are...?
What? I feel like we’re not on the same page here.
What I’m talking about is this: in my HoR game scum were the 3 longest serving members of Congress vs everyone else. If you knew the 3 longest serving members and you thought that was the split you’d be voting for them right?
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@Speedrace
That's what I mean, the split is obvious
Then why aren’t you voting scum?
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@Speedrace
VTL PieHow do you not know the theme :|
I don’t know the thematic split. I’m theorizing what it could be lol. Ofc I know what the theme is
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@Elminster
Dead
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Anyway I think supa was given miller as a fc from luna (he always gives them) and scuffed it.
Lunatic said he didn’t give fake claims. Don’t know about roles though - I just asked him
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@Elminster
Bruh is it no glaring obvious lol
No?
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@Elminster
Was from back in a live mafia game in August of last year
Oh. Well my tactic of playing live mafia is definitely different than forum mafia.
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@Elminster
How do you have a working theory when the theme is slapping you in the dick bdsm style. Should be obvious af
I meant the thematical distinction between scum and town lol
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I may have a working theory as to the theme based on what people have said so far
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@Speedrace
Do NOT claim your shows
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Mafia don’t know the theme nor do they have fake claims
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@Greyparrot
It gets funnier. Biden’s Press Secretary Jen Psaki has a brother named Jeffery Psaki. Jeffery is a portfolio manager at Citadel Inc.. which is a hedge fund that suffered the most recently.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah I just heard about how Biden got the SEC to shut down trading when his crony buddies were getting fuckedMan hasn't been president for a few weeks before pulling his first major corruption stunt.
This is what real corruption looks like. Wake up call for all the lefties after yelling Orange Man Bad for 4 years
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@Elminster
"millers need to die dp1. I would policy lynch myself if I was a miller. Let's lynch him before anyone else "
Which game was this?
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@Elminster
Going to dig around with this because I can swear in every live mafia game we are in, you instantly vote millers.
Well live is shorter so we don’t have as much time. And if I seem to recall, even last week I was supporting a policy lynch because there was no good alternative
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@Elminster
You are saying that you have no said millers should die no matter what dp1?
I support policy lynching millers before MYLO. Doesn’t mean we can’t also scumhunt
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@drafterman
coal is YYW, no?
Is he? I did not know that lol
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Careful of what? You think NY rich boy Donald and his Republican predecessors weren't funded by even the mob itself (in the case of Nixon)?
JFK had mob connections, LBJ probably worked with the mob to kill JFK. The mob would hate Trump lol consider his lawyer literally send their bosses to jail lol.
Being funded by wall street individuals isn't in itself corruption, it's a legal donation to a campaign fund.
Great so Citizens United v FEC should be the law of the land right?
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@Vader
There is an inherent leftist bias with sites such as Twitter. I despise Twitter, not because of their blatant lying, but the Twitter community itself is so shit.
Not mention pretty low iq
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@Vader
but I ultimately die.
Is this what it says in your PM? That Negan dies?
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@Lunatic
@coal
VTL Coal
Please tell us any and all experience you’ve had with playing mafia whether online or in person
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@HistoryBuff
man, trump cultists really love excuses. Oh trump is so great, it's not his fault he is a massive failure who abandoned his campaign promises it is those mean, nasty (insert random group here)!! trump would have done great things if it weren't for (insert random group here).
You don’t understand politics my friend. It’s not a nice realm to be in
Trump is a failure of a president. He made promises, then did absolutely nothing about them. He filled his cabinet with corrupt men and just did the policies they told him to. Whether he was lying and never cared about those promises or he was a weak/stupid man is up for debate. But his complete failure is pretty clear.
Yup, just like Biden and his Treasury Secretary protecting their comrades on Wall Street. Ever wonder why Wall Street funded Biden and not Trump. Corruption 101
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@whiteflame
I can't say I'm aware of that, but I'll take you at your word. Not at all familiar with the theme.
Oh wait u were referring to Speed’s post not Supa’s. I thought it was Supa who said that 💀
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@n8nrgmi
why do u think chinese workers are being exploited? because they dont get a decent minimum wage?
They barely get a wage. Insane hours. Think your average sweatshop
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@HistoryBuff
Do you think I have ever said that it was a good thing to exploit Chinese workers? It isn't. But we can't regulate how china treats it's workers. We can, and should, regulate how American workers are treated.
Why would any company mine earth metals in the US when
A) Democrats are against it
B) It’s cheaper to do it in China
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@Elminster
Why aren't you voting him. He claimed miller.
I just got here lol. I’m in for policy lynching millers if we don’t have an alternative target
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@whiteflame
So... wait, are you a single group of people or two separate groups of people?
It’s a TWD thing. You’re Negan, I’m Negan, we’re all Negan. There’s a specific guy named Negan
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@Vader
Hello I am the Neagan from the Walking Dead and I am a Miller
Only my favorite character ever 😵
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@zedvictor4
Exactly.And who do you think this benefits.
The establishment. Bigger reason why we should get oil from within the US while we continue doing R&D to make stuff cheaper and more feasible in the long run.
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@zedvictor4
Of course, less reliance on fossil fuels would mean less of a need for a military presence in the Middle East.....Which makes you wonder who all the NIMBY's are.
See that’s the thing. The US has more than enough energy here, but the Establishment don’t want that. They want to rely on oil from the Middle East so there’s always an excuse for the Military Industrial Complex.
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@n8nrgmi
this would speed up the free market. it already makes sense for people to switch to alternative energy, but if you sweeten the deal, it will happen faster. everyone wins in this situation, except those who dont want to do what's best for themselves and the world.
I don’t think you understand the value chain of solar or wind power lol. You’d need a shit ton of rare earth metals, which ofc won’t be mined in the US for the millions of batteries you’ll need to store the energy. To make the panels and batteries you need petrochemicals and plastics. You need an electric grid a million times bigger and capable of holding much more power.
Watch that video, it should help. You need wayyyyyy more R&D to even come close to the stuff required, not to mention waste.
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