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@Vader
drafterman gave it the connotation of Troublemaker. There will be a message on DP2 informing you there will be two lynches
Wym gave that connotation. Did he not explicitly say you are this role?
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@Lunatic
I didn't like about how that role worked. Pie confirm; I could only kill the mafia who targetted me.
If mafia killed you and you targeted the scum member that was doing the NK on you it would go through. If you target another scum member, yours wouldn’t go through. If no scum targeted you, your shot would go through lol
It really wasn’t rocket science lol
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@Bullish
I'm gonna play a game of russian roulette with Supa: every 2 hours he doesn't claim, I'm gonna pull the trigger. If the gun fires I'm gonna VTL him regardless of how many votes are on his wagon.
Imagine Putin and Trump playing Russian Roulette
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@Vader
At the moment, VTNL is the best option unless another option arrives but the primary choice is VTNL
Youre FOSing Chris tho lol
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@Bullish
Note that I accidentally posted here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5548/post-links/240215 don't respond to that one.
Credit to Pie for pointing that out as a friend and not flaming him 🤡
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@Bullish
You posted in the wrong thread 🤡
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@Vader
Your posts? I mean it's cool you played a tuba and the poem you made was good and I agree that Lunatic is paranoid of Speed. And your read on the game balance is probably the most likely case. What else did you post?
The rest of post 15?
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@Vader
Idk what mafia roles are, whether they have either DP or NP actions. If we are going to take the assumption that town only have DP action (not an unlikely), if we decide to out roles and we end up outing are only NP action role as town, then mafia are one step ahead. In this game, mafia will always be one step ahead and the fact we will be outing ourselves serves nothing but to help mafia.
Mafia are always one step ahead because they can communicate with each other whenever they like
I am not against claiming, I just don't think we hunt just to hunt in DP1. We need to analyze behavior extremely and not produced half whim role claims to generate activity
Wouldn’t you say people are asking you to claim because of your behavior here?
Lemme phrase it this way: have you seen anything scummy or something that warrants more questioning?
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@Vader
2 mafia or 2 mafia 1 tp
Ok...what about responding to the rest of the posts?
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@Vader
I said that this is the most likely scenario in a post
Unclear antecedent.
What is “this.”
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@Speedrace
Anyway, why am I being voted
Cause ur always scum duh
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@Lunatic
I mean it's null, even I was looking at drafters role list after he said that to see how many twilight roles there was.
Would you like to help me pressure Speed?
VTL Speed
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@Lunatic
Actually that’s a dumb question - u never gonna townread Speed again cause of last game 😂💀
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@Lunatic
In defense of misterchris he isn't actually "changing" his claim, speed just pointed out that he made it easier for mafia to narrow what he was down. Misterchris was jokingly saying "Oops".
Do you town read Speed for pointing that out?
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@Greyparrot
I know! The world is made whole again!
Next time on Dragon Ball Z
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@MisterChris
Just kidding guys I'm a day phase role like everyone else!
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@Bullish
is either of you mafia? You voted for me that's pretty sus.
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@Lunatic
Sounds like a pretty good poem, must have taken you a while to write that. You should write some msuic and turn it into a song!
Haven’t looked at sheet music since 8th grade when I played the Tuba
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@MisterChris
oh that clears it up. Not sure why even have a night phase then but OK
My thoughts exactly
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@Lunatic
The poem? Sounds like a good poem.
This poem is superior:
O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming;
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?
On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream;
'Tis the star-spangled banner; O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave,
From the terror of flight and the gloom of the grave;
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave!
O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land,
Praise the power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just.
And this be our motto— "In God is our trust; "
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
The supa vote? He probably deserves it.
🤷♂️💀
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@MisterChris
I will say that my role operates during a "twilight phase".... Gonna guess that's what Drafter is substituting for a night phase.
To my knowledge a Twilight Phase comes before the Night Phase but after the Day Phase. I personally think it’s annoying but Drafter likes using it
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@Lunatic
@Vader
@oromagi
@MisterChris
Thoughts on post 15?
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@drafterman
Draftermod
Can you ping Bullish and Warren on Discord? They’re more receptive to pings on there
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@whiteflame
Gee, can't imagine why those two names come up.
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So just some preliminary thoughts:
9 players so probably 2 Mafia or 2 Mafia and one TP
There is no theme so thematic analysis isn’t possible. Because this a game based on day roles, there probably is a daytime investigator who can start us off if they’d like.
Alternatively we can just collectively decide who to ask a claim from - I’d suggest Speed or Whiteflame
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I woke up but I’m going back to sleep. Cya in a few hours
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@fauxlaw
Unfortunately, I will not be able to ignore Biden. He even has a visual gaffe, on firstday, to his credit; maskless at the Lincoln Mem. He can't help it.
Rules for thee but not for me seems to be the motto for the Democrat Party
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@HistoryBuff
It shows he’s a fuckin hypocrite who thinks he’s above his own rules just like his goons in Democratic states who broke their own stay at home order.
Biden has no right to lecture me if he can’t follow is own fuckin rules lmao
but the guy who actually does try to take it seriously is the problem.
Joe Biden is the problem when he broke his own rules
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@Elminster
If drafter lets me play sure.The chances of that happening are roughly 0 lol
I don’t see why he wouldn’t if the players are fine with it
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@Bullish
So after white died none of the mafia left would have been copped guilty anyway
Actually they could if Drafter strengthened you - for Speed at least.
wanna talk about this
Establishment GOPers need to go.
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Current Mafia:
None..
Signups:
In the Hopper:
drafterman
Lunatic- Inverse reality
MisterChris- WWII
Supadudz- Darling In The Franxx, Attack on Titan, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Mafia, Demon Slayer
Danielle - 2020 In Review or WIFE Mafia
Speedrace
warren42
Bullish
ILikePie5 - United States Senate Mafia
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, PressF4Respect, RM, BearMan, That1User, Crocodile, Elminster
***That1User said Croc could go. Croc hasn’t been responding to pings, so moving him to hopper. Mikal also wants to go to the hopper.
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@Speedrace
Thanks for playing and congratulations!
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@Greyparrot
@drafterman
@whiteflame
@MisterChris
@Elminster
Thanks for playing!
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@Lunatic
@Vader
@Bullish
@warren42
@WaterPhoenix
Thanks for playing!
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MAFIA WIN
Wow this was such a great game! Probably one of the most suspenseful games I’ve created. I think the balance was a tad bit scum sided; in hindsight I would have made the Tracker a JOAT with a Watcher or just a 2x Tracker.
Bullish actually got the theme DP3 I think, which I think is the first time someone figured out the theme in one of my games. Kudos to him! The theme was the 3 most senior members (served the most number of terms) of the House of Representatives vs everyone else.
MAFIA:
Whiteflame - You are Don Young from Alaska’s At Large District. As the most senior member of Congress, you are the Dean of House of Representatives, representing Alaska for more than four decades. Your large amount of experience has allowed you to join a plethora of Congressional Committees to better serve your constituents in Alaska. Most of these have to do with nature and the environment because of the high amount of self-reliance in Alaska. Your appointment to the House Natural Resources Committee helps you frame the reauthorization of national fisheries legislation. You are the MAFIA FISHERMAN. Each day you may “fish” to gain a one-shot ability for the night from a list of possible choices: Roleblocker, Rolecop, Scout, Lookout, Ninja, Framer, Janitor. You may save and use any ability that you have gained whenever you like, but once it is used, you may never use or fish for that ability again. You win with the Mafia.
Greyparrot - You are Harold Rogers from Kentucky’s 5th Congressional District. Not many people really know you even though you have played a significant role in the House of Representatives. For a long time you were part of the Tennessee Valley Authority Congressional Caucus because of your state and its relationship with the act. Currently you are part of the Congressional Coal Caucus because Kentucky obtains 90% of its electricity from coal burning and it's something you know a lot about. Electricity and energy is like your thing, which makes we wonder why you’re nor a part of the House Energy Committee. You are the MAFIA ELECTRICIAN. You cannot be investigated; if you do get investigated you will receive the identity of who tried to investigate you. You win with the Mafia.
Speed - You are Christopher Smith from New Jersey’s 4th Congressional District. Before Jeff Van Drew switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, you were the sole Republican representing a district from New Jersey. Your biggest issue is Human Rights ranging from China to Northern Ireland where separatists have historically had a foothold. In fact you sponsored legislation to prevent the FBI from assisting a group in Northern Ireland that persecuted certain political groups. This work has led you to be a part of the Ad Hoc Committee for Irish Affairs, a bipartisan committee that monitors the region. You are the MAFIA LEPRECHAUN. Each night you may redirect all actions directed at a specific player to the player either directly above or below them in an alphabetized list of currently living players. If any actions were successfully redirected, you will be informed of this. You win with the Mafia.
Alphabetical List:
Bullish
Drafterman
Elminster
Greyparrot
Lunatic
MisterChris
Speed
Supa
Warren
WaterPhoenix
Whiteflame
Fake Role: Soldier
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Bullish - You are Ted Deutch from Florida’s 22nd Congressional District. You supported President Trump when he moved the Israeli Embassy to Jerusalem, which I commend you for. In the House you are the distinguished Chairman of the House Ethics Committee that has the job of enforcing and investigating Official Standards of Conduct. As a part of the only House Committee that has an equal number of Republicans and Democrats along with a completely non-partisan staff, you’re in charge of rooting out the rule breakers and investigating any allegations that are brought before the committee. With the power of subpoena, you can compel virtually any witness and document to be put forth in front of you. You are the COP. Each night you may choose to investigate a player upon which you will receive either an “innocent” or “guilty.” You win with the Town.
Elminster - You are Cheri Bustos from Illinois’ 17th Congressional District. As the Chair of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), you were in charge of getting your fellow House Democrats re-elected to hold on to the House of the Representatives. Even though you were the 5th highest ranking House Democrat, you failed miserably in your task, giving your boss the smallest House Majority in decades. To be fair to you though, it wasn’t your fault your party campaigned on Defunding the Police, which destroyed moderate House Democrats; you better hope your district doesn’t become more conservative in the process of gerrymandering with the 2020 Census. You are the SCAPEGOAT. If there is ever a tie (no matter the number of votes) in voting at the end of a DP on a No Lynch or VTNL day, you will automatically be lynched. You win with the Town.
Water - You are Darrell Issa from California’s 50th Congressional District. In the past, you were a congressman from California’s 49th Congressional District, but decided to not run for reelection with the possibility of being in the minority. Consequently, you Republicans lost the district to Mike Levin, a Democrat who voted along party lines. However, after Duncan Hunter’s scandal, GOP leadership convinced you to run for the 50th District to ensure the seat remains in GOP hands. Currently, you are the richest member of Congress, with an approximate net worth of 431 million dollars. You are the MILLIONAIRE. After your death, you may choose to write and publish a "last will" (a post-death message that may contain any theories or information you wish to share). You win with the Town.
Warren - You are Drew Ferguson from Georgia’s 3rd Congressional District. Before running for office in 2016, you were a dentist: the dream job of my crush. Going from a dentist to a politician is a big big leap which deserves admiration. Not only that, after getting re-elected in 2018 you were appointed the Chief Deputy Whip by House Minority Whip Steve Scalise of Louisiana. In addition to this, you serve on some of the most diverse caucuses like the Peanut Caucus, Automotive Caucus, Korea Caucus, and the Propane Caucus. Your ambition is something I deeply admire and one day you could be the next Speaker of the House moving up the chain of command in the GOP caucus. You are the DEPUTY. You will inherit the role of the COP when they die. You win with the Town.
Supa - You are Hakeem Jeffries from New York’s 8th District. You really are very vocal about things especially the President of the United States. As the Democratic Caucus Chairman, you’re in charge of keeping track of meetings and policy initiatives discussed at those meetings. Your predecessor Joseph Crowley was primaried by the infamous Alexandria Ocasió-Cortez, and thanks to her you have a great job. Early in 2020, you were an impeachment manager over the whole Ukraine nothingburger, but the Senate voted to acquit President Trump of all charges anyways. I was genuinely surprised when Nancy Pelosi didn’t choose you as a manager for the 2021 impeachment. You are the 1x TRACKER. For one night you may choose a player. You will learn who that person visited in the night. You win with the Town.
Lunatic - You are Lauren Boebert from Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District. You are what America needs in the halls of Congress and I seriously hope you join the Conservatic Squad in the future to combat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her squad members. Defeating Scott Tipton in the primary hopefully will inspire others to cast out the RINOs plaguing the House of Representatives in 2022 like the Tea Party movement in 2010. Already you have asked Capitol Police to be allowed to carry your firearm in the halls of Congress, which is such a flex imo. Your gun advocacy is unbounded with waitresses at your restaurant being able to open carry guns. For these reasons you are the 1x VIGILANTE. One night you may visit another player and kill them. You win with the Town.
MisterChris - You are Ed Case from Hawaii’s 1st Congressional District. Hawaii as a state shifted most to the right in the 2020 Presidential Election, which was really interesting. Your colleague Tulsi Gabbard whom I respect tremendously sadly retired. As a Blue Dog Democrat, you’re one of the key parts in working out compromise with your colleagues on the other side of the aisle. With a position on the powerful House Appropriations Committee, you are key to bipartisan legislation especially right now when government shutdowns loom. You are the APPORTIONER. Each night you may select a player. If your target is killed on that night, that person’s life will be extended and they will survive until the next night. Once you do this successfully, you will permanently lose your ability. You win with the Town.
Drafter - You are Nancy Pelosi from California’s 12th Congressional District. As the first female Speaker of the House, you have a lot of power in dictating the business of the House of Representatives. Even though you lost the speakership in the 2010 Tea Party which revolved around fiscal conservatism, you regrouped and regained the speakership in the 2018 midterms. As the Speaker of the House, no legislation can be brought to the floor without your approval; however, at the same time, due to your leadership any legislation you support will quickly move through the elongated House process. Just recently, you whipped your caucus to get reelected as Speaker even though some progressives and moderates in the Democratic Party did not support you as speaker last time. As long as you’re there anything you want in the House can pretty much happen. You are the STRENGTHENER. Each night, you may target a player. That player's actions that night will be immune to interference (i.e. they cannot be blocked, redirected, protected against, etc). You win with the Town.
NP1 Actions:
Greyparrot - NK Elminster
Speed - Leprechaun from himself to MisterChris
Bullish - Investigate MisterChris
Drafterman - Waive
Lunatic - Vig MisterChris
MisterChris - Apportion Lunatic
SupaDudz - Waive
NP2 Actions:
Speed - NK Supa; Leprechaun from himself to Lunatic
Bullish - Investigate Supa
Drafterman- Waive
SupaDudz - Track Speed
NP3 Actions:
Speed - NK Bullish; Leprechaun from himself to Lunatic
Bullish - Investigate Speed
Drafterman- Strengthen Bullish
NP4 Actions:
Speed - NK Drafter; Waive Leprechaun
Warren - Investigate Speed
Drafterman- Strengthen Warren
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Warren (2/2) - Speed, Lunatic
Speed (1/2) - Warren
Warren was lynched. He was...INNOCENT.
Endgame up in a bit
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Warren (1/2) - Speed
Speed (1/2) - Warren
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