ILikePie5

i can't self doc, trust me, i tried. also, i protected greyparrot since he was confirmed town and i thought mafia would target him.

I have researched a few of the roles, but if mafia had someone like you on their team who was innately familiar with these objects, it would be a pretty big advantage.

VTL Pie

In her honor. *plays "My Heart Will Go On" from a boombox held aloft above his head*

i put it back, i want wf to hammer

The thing mikal was soft claiming at me was vig btw. Thats why i wanted to let him live a day phase to confirm him. Hes mentioned something from a previous conversation where I asked him if he was a vig in a lylo situation would he use his role or let the day phase play out. He said he would use it and yolo. 

Now hes claiming hunter.

Also mikals behavior is pissing me off. He lynched himself in danielles game too when he got a little bit of pressure. Rather than try to make a good case to defend himself he throws a temper tantrum. I find that annoying and i dont find my scum tell allieviated from any of this behavior. It could be a master manipulation tactic. Dont really care if he takes me out either in case hes scum. I dont have much pro town utility anyway.

Also, let me know if y'all would prefer a 72 hour DP over 48 hours. Not sure if 48 is too short

Also, he's heavily hinting that he's hunter or supersaint or something like that. Does that make sense to you as a role for Stormbringer? Was Thor lynched and killed the person that lynched him?

Ok, so when you eventually role claim, if your role doesn't literally match up with your tool's use in the movies we should lynch you?

I'd say he's pretty committed to winning and is not above any type of gambit or manipulation. His willingness to be lynched here is pretty strange and tough to read considering he has "given up" or rage quit a few times as town recently, but he usually makes some kind of effort in making a case first. He didn't try to make a case here and didn't respond at all, so he has nothing to scold people about in the end game if they're wrong. Therefore I think he's scum despite not trying very hard. Maybe we just legit caught the Strongman?! Not sure. He's prob bluffing and trying to get me to unvote him (which is why he switched from Luna to me) which I'm not gonna do. Even if he's telling the truth about his role, I've already given me reads which town can defer to tomorrow. So I ain't got no worries. You can hammer if you'd like. I think it's better than NL at this point, do you? 

Not for lack of strength, but lack of aim. It literally overpowered a combined blast of energy from the infinity gauntlet.

ICYMI a Doctor and BP in the same game makes sense with a mafia Strongman, which I suspect is a role in this game per the theme. The best character fit for that role from what I can tell is Stormbreaker (Mikal), Ronan's Hammer (Croc) or Infinity Gauntlet (whiteflame). Correct me if I'm wrong or if you disagree. 

I think you should help us pressure Mikal for aforementioned reasons. If not him then Croc. Maybe both if we have time. 

I like the Stormbreaker as Strongman suggestion. VTL Elminster

I also don't like Mikal's behavior. First he seemed to soft claim Supersaint to Luna. I probs misunderstood that cuz apparently Luna knows what he meant, but Mikal said something along the lines of "then you better be the one to lynch me" as if to suggest whoever hammers him might die. I think that was a bluff and I wanted to see if he would outright role claim that. I don't see how that role would make sense with Stormbreaker though. 

Furthermore I don't like that Mikal completely disregarded whiteflame's analysis.  I agree it was mostly null character analysis, but to me it didn't read scummy per se. I guess it's because I was just in a third party PM with whiteflame last game that I don't read that behavior as suspicious. It sounds like Mikal is looking for reasons to sus someone. 

Also why is whiteflame in there if you said his analysis "made your head hurt?" 

I might be combining forum and live games in my head but I think I got away with it in a game here where pressf4respect was my mafia partner

lemme re read

Not off hand, usually when she is scum in live mafia she is almost always high af, and slips or is caught pretty easy. I don't really count those as a factor for reading her, since I am a potato when im high too

It's largely just a theory based on my perception of the roles that are already out there and the ones that remain, but given that Cap's Shield is often viewed as a symbol to rally behind in a manner similar to the American flag, I would say that it's entirely possible that the role associated with it could be Popular. 

The justification actually makes sense, only other thing it could potentially be is like mason recruiter or something?

They are the type of players I don't usually lock into a meta as I do some others. For example people like greyparrot, supa, and yourself seem a bit more meta oriented then them. Mike is just hard to read in general, and in live mafia he tends to be more tunnel vision crazy as town and more conservative as scum. In forum mafia he is probably a little different. Last game I saw him as scum on was mafiascum (I was scum with him), he was extremely active and everyone universally had him as a town read early on. He even got tracked to a night kill and managed to turn the lynch on the tracker and delay his death an extra day phase lol. People here I don't think would have let him get away with that. 

Danielle has been town in almost every forum game until drafter's recently, so you are about as caught up with her scum meta as I am. That game she basically was willing to be lynched. I think we will know town danielle though if we see her, based on uWu mafia and bearman's game where she caught scum relatively early. Could have been luck but she is a pretty good asset to town when she is town lol.

Maybe not, just a thought. Another possibility is that he's the Popular.

Well, we've already got a BP and a doctor, if this is true. I do think Water's character better fits the doctor role than Cap's Shield. Maybe Bodyguard?

I was convinced warren was the doctor. Now I am really curious what caps shield would be lol

What's the square root rule? Only rule I've ever heard is 25% rounded down, and 8v3 would violate that rule

I'm going to drop it after this because we argue about this same thing every damn game, but lurking is not the same as 0-posting. A 0 poster isn't posting for a reason, usually they haven't seen the game. Voting them doesn't incentivize activity. Lurking is not what he was doing.

ignoring all the Luna and drafter back and forth just going to end in them debating mafia theory 

I trust speed enough to disregard 3 scum. That's 8v3 so D2 we're at MYLO. It's either 8v2v1 (3P) or it's 9v2

No it wasn't you literally told him to stop lurking

He hinted to me what his role was. I can see a world and a justification for where the role he soft claimed to me makes sense for stormbreaker, but there are probably better town roles for it. That's all I am saying. The role Mike is claiming is probably better off hidden if we are to assume he is telling the truth, and there isn't much to assume he isn't telling the truth other than my thinking that their are probably better roles to fit the justification of his claim. So Idk where to go from there.

The thing mikal soft claimed to me seems like it might be a stretch of a justification for that weapon. If anyone is actually mjolnir I kind of suspect it to be mike. But all this is kind of a weak argument at the same time, ya know? lol

Who claimed mjolnir? I'm not feigning ignorance -- I've never seen a single Marvel (or any other comic / superhero) movie so I have no idea what you're referring to and have to look everything up. However if you found something, then it looks like the popcorning was useful. 

Re: Pie focusing on inactives, fo sho he usually does that but there wasn't really anyone inactive. The day phase started last evening and everyone posted by this morning if I remember correctly.

Plus I recall him doing that as (lazy) scum. I'm usually the one being pressured lol. 

At this point, as much as I'd love for everyone to vote Pie for personal satisfaction I'd prefer a claim from Croc or Mikal. 

Usually he'd be harping on the inactives and pushing them and he didn't here. Makes me think he's mafia and knows that the least active people were town or one of them was a partner

*re drafter vote early*

dammit pie, at this point I feel it's not worth arguing yet again but drafter hadn't posted. That's not lurking. That's having not posted. Why did you vote him over the other non-posters?

Interesting. There are a high proportion of Asgardian items.

How so? And what "sides"?

I didn't agree to it and I still don't agree with it.

I love how speed says "don't tag me in votes"

*pie tags him in a vote*

speed: "don't tag me in votes"

*pie tags* "sorry"

P.S. vtl Pie 

He would be participating in the popcorning by voting the next person in the list. If he was on board with it, he should have voted me.