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@Elminster
This is actually a interesting point considering someone claimed nick furys something
Not my fault if Speed redid the game 🤷♂️
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@Vader
To be honest. I don't get my justification one bit. Appearently I make a loud echoing sound to troops to show where I'm at or something and because of it I'm inno child. Really don't like this justificaton at all
Luckily you’re confirmed town lmao
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@warren42
Hi, speed finally pinged me on discord so I know the game started. Going to do a real quick skim with any initial thoughts and peace out for the night
Welcome back! Long time no see!
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@Vader
I also think Drafter is more town than Croc. Drafter made it clear that he does not like popcorning at all and will stick by that.
If I did that I’d definitely be lynched :(
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@Vader
Nevermind, I'm going to agree with drafter. In general, I'm not found of popcorn claiming from the start, because while I think it could give town advantages, it can give mafia advantages when it comes down to who to kill. In a game where the theme split is not obvious, mafia gains more of an advantage in general
I’m definitely curious as to how your character connects with Innocent Child lmaooo
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@Speedrace
Is deleting messages allowed for certain reasons or is it a hardcore no?
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@Speedrace
Also I said not to @ me when voting pls
Must’ve missed it, my b
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@whiteflame
@Speedrace
VTL Whiteflame
Not gonna let you go this time without a claim :)
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@Speedrace
I’m the Infinite Voter. You have been lynched good sir!
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@Speedrace
Also when I said this won't be role madness, I think I'm changing that
Tell Disc to hurry up
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@Speedrace
Also why did y'all kill Luna and Mikal
Lunatic cause we thought GP would recruit him to the Mason, plus he’s experienced and kinda was sus of us. Mikal to control the dialogue for future DPs, cause I was confident That1 was the Mime. I could kill any of the mimes because they had a BP so we’d have to manage 2 DPs to do anything with Mikal still alive. We knew we were kinda fucked as soon as Dani flipped Mime
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@Speedrace
Get back to doing your homework dawg, I’m tryin to get a PM before I go to sleep
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@Speedrace
You realized that he was insane after he got you inno, so that meant That was actually inno, meaning she wasn't mime, so the only other mime could be WF
Yup I was gonna unvote but it wouldn’t have mattered, he would’ve self hammered. Plus there were two townies who’d rather have TP win so we were screwed anyways
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@Speedrace
You knew That1 was town which meant WF was Mime. Oh well, they played a good game lol
We didn’t until Supa said she was inno lol
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@Speedrace
Also my game is going up tonight so stop pinging me
No 😈
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@Speedrace
Y'all should've instantly known WF was mime since you knew he wasn't scum lol
Well ya but he could’ve been town too lol. I started second guessing myself after Supa said I was inno
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@Greyparrot
I'm happy we could at least help TP out. There's plenty of games where TP cant win and ends up helping town so I consider it karmic payback.
I would’ve helped town win rather than TP cause they destroyed our plans
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@Lunatic
That and I was seeding too much doubt in croc dp1 which I am assuming is why you killed me. I figured if at least one of the other vanillas would have scum read either of you I would have stood a better chance but as the game progressed that seemed unlikely lol. I was praying for a mime win at that point so I wouldn't have to carry towns loss on my shoulders lol
That wasn’t actually our logic. At that point we thought GP was a Mason so killing him wouldn’t be optimal cause of protective roles. So we went with who we thought he’d recruit which was you. It was kinda a two birds with one stone type of thing because of your experience as well
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@That1User
Yeah Idk why it didn't occur to Supa he could be insane cop, he was so narrowly focused that I was guilty and IlikePie was inno, that possibility didn't even come up in his mind
That’s the reason I was second guessing myself on you being Mime lol
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@Lunatic
Btw if both mafia got lynched, you would have had once chance to guess which of the four flipped vanillas was the seer. If guessed correctly you would have won. Who would you have honestly guessed between me, speed, elmin, and that1 was the seer?
Definitely you lmao. But hindsight is 20/20 Ig lol. It would’ve been you cause you could’ve died if you said something, which fits the Seer role. I look at the role list a lot lol
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@Lunatic
I don't see many situations where town would have won this though and that is mostly because the way the meta is here, results and roles are taken at face value way too much.
Wouldn’t have been optimal for scum to kill Mimes either because of the BP. The only reason we got this far is because of what you said and cause Psychiatrist
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@Elminster
I was for sure she wasn't town bases on all that Google doc shit. I just couldn't have fathomed mimes.
+1
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@Elminster
You have to play in speeds gameGood list of people , will be good
I’m burned out but I’ll see lol
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@drafterman
For the record I didn't "change" the town wincon, I misspoke when I first answered pies question.
If you wanna be politically correct about it lol
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@Greyparrot
Pretty much Mafia blew it by totally ignoring the mime team.
I knew it was between That1 and Whiteflame but we had people like you who’d rather let TP win lmao
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@Danielle
You needed two to make it balanced. One Mime (Jester) is a pretty dumb role cuz it's too easy to win. Two is harder because once you know there are players in the game that are TRYING to get lynched, it makes you hesitant to lynch "obviously scummy" players. I thought 2 was perfect for balance in a game based on Paranoia. In fact I hope if Mimes are ever used going forward it's in this exact set up with 2 scum and 2 mimes.
Ya I know. If there were Mimes it would have to be 2. I was hoping you’d be some other TP like a survivor or something which is why you claimed that. Never thought you could be a mime
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@Elminster
Imo that was what sealed it for you guys. I don't think anyone would have made the call to finish you as mafia. I talked about it for like 2 pages and let it go cus if pop mafia is alive last dp, the game is over.
If we successfully lynched town this DP, then the plan was to have everyone vote me as Popular. I’d need 4 votes and Croc would’ve been the 4th but he’d be on “vacation”
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@Danielle
Wasn't he tested multiple times though? I personally never believe that Popular = town because all roles that can be "confirmed" aside from Innocent Child are often mafia decoys. I may have said that in the game. I read Pie behaviorally town though. I kinda town read Croc too lol :( To be fair we all did. I think everyone including Speed put Pie and Croc in their definitive town pile.
As soon as you flipped Mime, I knew we were kinda screwed. Drafter even ended up changing the town wincon which hurt us. If there was just one TP we’d be fine, but two really killed us
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@Elminster
The popular play wasn't even the good part for mafia. It was gambling with crocs fake claim. That was about as good of a fake claim as a fake claim could have got
It was 100% to confirm Croc. He was Hated Mafia so we couldn’t lose him
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@That1User
I thought in the back of my mind "If you win this as mafia you are the greatest mafia ever"
I was literally just about to unvote after rereading DP1 because of Danielle’s last vote for whiteflame
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@Danielle
I knew you were TP the second you claimed that. We wanted to get you lynched so Croc would be confirmed but turns out you had a buddy which destroyed our entire plan
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@Lunatic
Even scum was telling you that you were likely flavored lol
Literally why we kept him alive lmaoo
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@That1User
Me acting scummy af denied mafia winning, because they thought I was tp they had an aversion to lynching me, allowing me to hammer vote WF as a vote
Well you should never act against your wincon but ok lmaoo
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@Vader
THAT1 LITERALLY WAS DOING THE SAME BASELESS THINKING HE SAID IN CIVIL WARS YET EVERYONE EXCUSED IT!!! OMG
She was town lol
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@That1User
I adopted your philosophy, I'd rather have TP lynch win than a mafia win
I would’ve helped y’all win rather than TP
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