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@Speedrace
If Dani does not show up, I will be voting her
The problem is that she’s kinda showing up hella late even if she does. It’s Friday night, people got plans and stuff. Well at least I do, so 🤷♂️
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@Speedrace
I'm dead
I’m confused cause That1’s vote shows up on GP. Just trying to get it clarified lmaooo
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@Speedrace
Also my lynch does nothing, User's lynch tells us stuff about Supa's role. Why me over him? Not that I think we should lynch User because I don't
He town reads her. But there’s definitely more utility in lynching That1 over you if we choose to ignore Danielle
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@Greyparrot
Show me the role in drafter's list that keeps Dani from talking, if you can't then kill her.
I don’t. That’s the thing. On one side there’s Lunatic who basically said he was trolling when he said those 3 things. On the other hand he couldn’t talk normally either. So he essentially had to have been talking in code on purpose for some reason. Or he made the latter two up or something.
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@drafterman
Vote CountILikePie - 1/5 - CrocDanielle - 3/5 - SupaDudz, ILikePie, GreyParrotGreyParrot - 1/5 - That1UserSpeed - 1/5 - Elminster
That1User and Whiteflame both VTLed you the mod...
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
@That1User
@Speedrace
@Crocodile
If we assume that what Lunatic says is true then Danielle won’t be able to talk tomorrow either because it will be just “watching,” supposedly. Today she has limited participation so she can technically do certain things. However she’s just afk. So the question is do we wait for tomorrow where she won’t be able to talk anyway or figure it out now.
I personally still believe Lunatic was trolling just cause of the memes. Me and Speed engaged in excessive questioning about it, yet he always seemed to just suggest it was a joke. Even if we assume it’s true, Danielle won’t be able to confirm tomorrow.
All of this can be solved if Danielle just shows up today and says something 🤞
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@Elminster
Prob won't be on before the np. Pls don't do anything stupid. Let's give danielle tomorrow to defend herself. Will also confirm if that mechanic can exist
If it can exist she definitely won’t be able to do anything tomorrow cause she’d just be “watching”
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@Elminster
Bro we almost have a meta of claiming pgo and miller in reverse. My bet is she's miller and can't type until next dp
Well if the theory holds true she won’t be able to participate at all next DP. Cause she’d be “watching.” Which ig is another reason why it could be detrimental in the future. Maybe limited participation means just vote and watching just means watch with no vote.
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@Elminster
She needs to be alive. Can't say why but she does
Ok? U really pullin a GP rn 😂
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@Elminster
Her or speedI agree.
I still think we should be on Danielle cause she got exposed as not being PGO. She has no town motivation to claim that. It just feels wrong to me. Then again I am the inventor of policy lynching PGOs and Millers so 🤷♂️
But ya definitely That1 imo. I don’t think there’s a method to “read” Speed for me personally
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@Elminster
Yeah I agree but still need to give her a chance to defend herself and the pgo claim.
She’s had almost 48 hours to do that, but I see your point. Next in line for me is That1
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@Elminster
Could easily mean she can't participate. Either way we need to wait and see
Either way it’s not indicative of affiliation. Assuming it can move around, mafia or TP could very well have the affect
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How do ones participation being affected and one watching differ. Assuming participation is limited, Danielle could still talk. She just isn’t on for some reason
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@Elminster
Pretty sure we asked Lunatic that and he said to not think about it too much. He posted a meme about it too.
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I’m honestly just ready to see the freakin flip. This game has mentally burned me out
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@Speedrace
Really would like for Whiteflame to claim -_-
It would give us more info, but I think Danielle is a safe consensus at the moment
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@Elminster
I'm okay with either. I just think we can go back to her and we get at least one more day with supa alive. So having a result prior to the np opens his result next dp as valid or not
I think behaviorally we can read Danielle as scum. With That1 it’s still kinda divided. I think she’s scum but Danielle going first just logistically is better imo cause of our reads. Lynching a possible town to just confirm a person we read is town is pretty redundant to me
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@Elminster
We are back to danielle and userUser for different reasons. I kinda want to lynch user to test supas results. That opens up an actual result this np depending on the flip.Or we go danielle for lying
I prefer Danielle. Supa can do what you told him to do to see if he’s flavored in some way.
I have a disposition to lynching PGOs cause it’s such a safe claim for scum generally. What really gets me is that she wanted to pressure Speed up till L-1 to get him to confess if I recall correctly while hiding her own role from all of us
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@Elminster
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@Elminster
Just to make sure you aren't fucking with me. Can you imgur the part where drafter edited.
Ya gimme one sec
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@Elminster
The timing actually checks up with drafters edit and parrots post. Within an hour of each other.Drafter prob changed it and parrot logged on about an hour later
There are a lot of edits in the history though. They don’t show timestamps on mobile though
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@Elminster
Let me time stamp parrot
Assuming Google shows the same time as me. It’d be 11:30 Central on Wednesday when Drafter made an edit to the list. GP made the post at 11:51 Central and didn’t expand on it at all.
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@Elminster
Do me a favor go into google docs. The actual access to it.If you right click the settings tabIt will sayLast updated by "whoever"Tell me the last time drafter edited it and let's cross compare that to post 403
Last Updated by Scott Rollison on Wednesday at 11:30 AM.
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@Elminster
If croc is telling the truth then there has to be a tp.
Danielle is either scum or TP. If Danielle is scum then I would sus That1 and Whiteflame as TPs. If Danielle flips TP then Croc would be confirmed but it would place more suspicion on the other two for me. Ofc if Supa does what you recommended then it could be solved but who knows
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@Elminster
Yeah parrot said mid game and he knew the exact post and wording of when he was talking with the mod.That makes me hit my breaks a bit. Cus he was able to trace back that postThe only way he would remeber that is if he had that convo
That’s bastard af from the mod tho. Changing the mechanics of the role midgame
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@Elminster
It’s still the same. If Drafter did change the list then it happened before I posted that. In fact it probably happened before GP first claimed Hot Potato. I remember looking at the list to see what it does but I don’t exactly remember what the notes said about it
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@Greyparrot
Honestly, I missed where she claimed PGO.
Bruh what? I posted like 10 times with people and their roles. I even corrected Lunatic on not having anyone target Danielle because she’s the PGO.
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@Greyparrot
I really want to get her response, but no response just means she is scum by default.But yeah, only she and I know the mechanic unless she is scum, which means her scumbuddy knows the mechanic.
Ok, correct me if I’m wrong but as of now you scum read her. I’m guessing you townread her DP1 which is why you gave her the potato. But if you townread her you’d believe her PGO claim, yet you visited her anyways. This is the point I’m confused on.
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@Greyparrot
@drafterman
and Dani happens to be scum, then Mafia will know something town does not.But go ahead and let Dani skate, I am used to playing with a retarded town.
Unvote
Ok so let me clear up some things.
Asof now only you and Danielle know the mechanics correct? We know for a fact Danielle lied about being PGO. If she’s scum or TP then she already knows about the mechanics right? So do you townread Danielle? If so why? Why’d you choose a claimed PGO to give the bomb to?
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@Greyparrot
Either wait on Dani or lynch her, but don't hammer until I get to explain the mechanic.
Why does she have to explain the mechanic?
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@Elminster
Before we go to sleep we need to lynch tonight. Day phase ends early ish tomorrow. So let's get this done before we sleep so there is no fuckery
+1
Tomorrow is Saturday so I’m definitely waking up late
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@Speedrace
How did we go from no posting to SEVEN NEW PAGES in one night bruhI have a debate tournament I'll have to catch up later
Cause the night is dark and full of terrors 😈
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@Elminster
It's offset by the fact that gp can prob recruit scum as well
Ya definitely makes sense. I’m just trying to figure out the math like I usually do
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@Elminster
There's a nk.Has to be scum.
Completely forgot about that *facepalm*
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@Elminster
If there is a Cultist, how many scum do you think there are? Or do you think it’s just a Cult vs Town game?
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@Crocodile
So I'll visit danielle, that's what i get from this
Correct. You’ll be visiting Danielle regardless of what GP flips.
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@Vader
Can you explain why you think Danielle should be the lynch rather than GP?
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@Elminster
Please read this page. If you think danielle is scum. Gp has to be scum. And it's more important we go him first. There is no plausible way where she's scum and he isn't unless he lies about being mason, is actually a hot potato, and somehow expected her to type something without being able to talk to her
So why’re u on Danielle?
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@Vader
I can't investigate myself
U serious?
That just messes it up even more
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Solving the GP/Danielle puzzle hopefully will solve the gut feeling
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@Elminster
We still don’t know how Whiteflame fits into this game which is annoying me even more, but I’ll hold off on him for now.
A noob team of Whiteflame and That1 is just hitting my gut for some reason
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@Elminster
Think of the title. What is more paranoid than a cult that can flip town to cult and a role in town that can flip them back and a cop that has no idea what to think
Definitely messed up. GP is probably the safest lynch today. He’s just hard to read and too many inconsistencies
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@Elminster
Said that as well. Croc should target her tonight either way. We are operating under the assumption we are right and gp isn't just dumb
So you think Danielle is TP even if GP flips inno?
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If GP flips guilty, Croc needs to target Danielle
If GP flips innocent then Croc targets Elm or That1 tonight
If GP flips innocent then Croc targets Elm or That1 tonight
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@Elminster
You are now town as fuckDidn't see that either.Saw you as town already but that just did it lol.Let's just hammer
I still don’t think she’s town. If she’s attacking TP cultist it’s possible she’s also Mafia. We’ll know for sure tomorrow depending on what happens to Supa
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@Elminster
I don't buy lynch all liars. That's not a dart thing. Its been around for like 10 years or more. If people have the right motivations to lie, I'll let it slide. There are just to many lies in one interaction and then parrot claiming a role where he can't communicate while basically saying he communicated with her.
True, I’ll help you pressure Danielle.
VTL Danielle
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