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@Lunatic
Not interested croc, how come?
I’m fine pressuring either. Whiteflame is just online rn
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@whiteflame
Been told that before, and I’m saying again that I’m not claiming in DP1. The whole massclaim idea is BS to begin with.
Everyone has already claimed besides you too. For it work at this point we need y’all’s cooperation. Otherwise there’s no purpose
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- Elminster - Vanilla
- Speedrace - Vanilla
- ILikePie5 - Popular
- Whiteflame - Unknown
- Lunatic - Modified Vanilla
- That1User - Vanilla
- SupaDudz - Cop
- Crocodile - Unknown
- Danielle - PGO
- GreyParrot - Mason
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@Elminster
No pretty sure that was tim
Ok just making sure
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@Danielle
Right. I said I don't buy Speed's vanilla claim but don't feel the need to press it for now unless we're voting him for death.
That’s the only point he’ll claim his real role unless he’s a in a gambling mood lol. But if we believe he’s hiding his true role, would he be more likely to be mafia or town is the 1 million dollar question.
Greyparrot always says Speed is always scum XD
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From my experience with Speed, he lies all the time when he has a role with a lot of utility. In one of my games he claimed Bomb when he was the Soldier. In other games he’s claimed roles contrary to his own to “gauge” reactions.
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@Elminster
Have 0 idea how to read user. Not sure if noob, new, or lost.Wil defer to luna for that read.
She’s pretty rash when she’s mafia but she’s only been mafia in one game from what I remember, so hard to judge a meta.
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@Vader
So Pie fucking claimed popular and we didn't confirm it yet. Wtf.
Yes we did lol. There were 6 votes on me and I didn’t get lynched
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@Lunatic
VTNL
Normally I would say no but since there’s no theme I’d be fine with it.
Protective roles choose between: Danielle, Greyparrot NP1
Definitely not Danielle. She’s PGO. I’d be inclined to policy lynch her, but the role fuels paranoia so I’m leaning town on her
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@whiteflame
Yep, it would, but this is a Paranoia game, and I'm not dismissing options at the moment. That being said, I'm not calling you mafia. If anything, I'm leaning town with you. I'm just saying that we don't have a clear picture of your role yet.
Ya for sure. I think for this game we’re going to have to rely significantly more on behavior than roles themselves. Maybe also balance. But Drafter is notorious for hating balance analysis so that could also be a dead end.
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@Danielle
Your role is the opposite of fueling paranoia: you can "CONFIRM" your role, which is exactly why I'm paranoid about it (lol I realize that sounds almost contradictory but you know what I mean). Basically I'm convinced that the roles in this game are fuckery roles, so the fact that you have a role you can so easily verify makes me suspicious.
I think what you’re trying to say is that your paranoia comes inherently from the mafia game as a whole rather than the thematically induced paranoia
I don't believe that the vanillas are really vanilla. We have 2 claimed vanillas (unless I misread: Lunatic and Speed). Luna is a modified vanilla who can die if he says something wrong and Speed is probs not telling the whole truth about his role, whatever it is.
Luna is modified vanilla. Speed claimed vanilla. Mikal/Minister claimed vanilla. Grey claimed Mason as well, which also doesn’t seem like a paranoia inducing role.
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@whiteflame
I can't explain what Pie's doing, but there are more possibilities than lynchproof and popular at play. Could be dealing with filibuster or a gallis, both of which would not be lynched with the votes we put on Pie. I could see the latter two being more paranoia inducing, and he would certainly want to disguise both.
Filibuster Mafia would be insane. I could be a Gallis but to solve that we can just have one person on me before we lynch somebody.
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@Lunatic
2nd sentence looking important.3 Ice cream, 2 not relating game title: Elminster, speedraceAlso popular not relating game title, Pie.Thoughts?
This game is themeless in the sense that it is not based on any third-party universe or material. There are no "characters", just rules.
This game does have a theme in a sense that the roles were chosen for a specific purpose: to induce paranoia.
The game is designed for 9-10 players.
That’s what Drafter said. I think you mean 3rd sentence?
As for my role not being part of the theme, I think Danielle’s reaction kinda says it all. But idk if all roles were selected in mind for the theme. Your role and my role fuels the paranoia. But the vanillas don’t
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@Lunatic
Also, w mason outted, any reason not popcorn massclaim?
I’d be open to it. Do you remember if Drafterman gives fake claims?
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@drafterman
@Vader
VTL Supa for an answer to my question
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@Elminster
is popular mafia a thing on here?
Last time I saw a popular mafia was back on DDO when Oromagi was levi_smile
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@Lunatic
Next pressure target? Pie chooses.
Supa - never answered my question whether he scumreads you or not. He thought figuring out Lunatic’s riddles were detracting from the DP, which was really suspicious imo.
That1 - just casually chimes in to vote for me. Haven’t really seen anything of use from her.
Croc - conveniently shows up after the testing. Doesn’t seem to be playing to the town meta I saw as a mod in Zelda.
I’d be fine with pressuring any of the three but if I was forced to choose I’d go Supa just cause of the comment.
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@Lunatic
Behavioral analysis should pie = fibbing popular
I’m lying about popular?
Well I’m more than happy to be tested
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@Lunatic
Bingo. Speed croc add votes.
Can you give us hints as to why?
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@Lunatic
Is there a reason why you took off your vote?
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@whiteflame
Tempted to test this. Two more votes, people!
Be my guest. The only reason I didn’t reveal it was cause I’d be a clear NK target. Plus the fact that y’all could determine whether I was telling the truth at any point in the game
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@Danielle
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@Elminster
Just in the interest in saving time, I’m the Popular. I require one more vote than normal to be lynched.
I soft claimed here:
Popular doesn’t really make sense in the sentence.
I asked Drafterman whether the DP ends if I get 6/6 needed but he said no.
Y’all are welcome to test it
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@Speedrace
Not supposed to delete posts, tsk tsk
It was a repost of the previous post by accident cause my internet glitched. Didn’t want to clutter the DP :l
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So Elminster is DahHamburghler
I knew something was fishy lol
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@Danielle
Not sure but I'ma claim before the DP ends. I feel like your vote is being wasted right now tbh. Help me pressure Pie.
I’ve soft claimed somewhere in this DP if that helps. I’ll claim when I’m at L-1 as usual.
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@Speedrace
That's all fine and dandy except GP is gonna die lol
True rippp
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@Lunatic
praying = unknown, hopeDrafter response: Bingo = nighttime communication greyparrot
Praying is that he hopes it’s true. Like he hopes Minister is town.
And Drafter said he’d be free from harm if he was in a PM with GP, so optimal play here would be to have GP recruit Lunatic so he can relay any messages
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@Vader
We're wasting too much time finding this code out because it's taking away from the DP
Do you scum read Lunatic?
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@Lunatic
If you were recruited to a Mason, would you be free from repercussions in the Mason chat?
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@Lunatic
@ 129Negative.@125 = Bingo
Ok cool, lemme try this again
The 3 things was a soft claim
The 3 things were just a useless first post
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@Lunatic
@Speedrace
I think Lunatic means the word maybe changes every day phase?
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@Lunatic
@Speedrace
One limited speaking. Ones participation affected. One watching.
Ok so these are Lunatic’s parameters.
DP1: He can only speak in a certain way as I described
DP2: He can only vote or talk for one hour or something
DP3: He can only watch, maybe his voting power goes away?
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@Lunatic
@Speedrace
@ 106Someone = MyselfBingo
Ok so Lunatic can’t say a word otherwise he dies
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@Speedrace
Ohhh and he doesn't know the word, hence "Specific vernacular unknown"
Yeah it’s a common word to mafia I’m guessing
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@Lunatic
Ehh, theories being close. Speech relating game = acceptable.1 word *prays* = implosion
Ok so I’m somewhat close. With regards to what Lunatic can or can’t say I’m close enough.
If I’m right, if someone in the DP says a specific word, Lunatic dies, hence why he’s saying he prays no one says it
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@Speedrace
Makes sense. Not ruling out a possible mafia gambit (I kinda think that's more likely lol) but we'll see
Paranoia XD
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@Speedrace
Lunatic can't say his role or he'll be modkilled
He can’t talk about the game as a whole directly. Only through uncommon methods that someone has to interpret like “ice cream” for example
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@Lunatic
@Speedrace
Specific vernacular unknown, = implosion. Intent of vernacular even misspelled = implosion.Ice cream, modified.
Ok so it seems like Lunatic is a modified vanilla of some sort.
Based on what he’s saying I’m guessing he can’t directly talk about the game. If he does he dies. If he wants to talk about something I’m guessing he’d have to talk in riddles
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@Elminster
It's disrespectful. I'll type vtk though
It’s not really lol.
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@Speedrace
Guys, you go into a game called PARANOIA MAFIA and proceed to completely ignore the first cryptic message? Come on
I asked him if he was drunk XD
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@whiteflame
Looks like other people have addressed your questions.As for my reads at the moment, I agree that Greyparrot looks like town, as does Elminster.
I agree with the Greyparrot read. It would be very stupid to fake claim a Mason.
I think Elminster is still null just cause noobs are hard to read and the fact that he has played this style before albeit in person
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@drafterman
@Elminster
Unvote
Cool, at least you know the basics and are active.
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