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I’m Daniel Negraneau. No incentive for Mafia to fake claim might as well claim
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@PressF4Respect
If town gets the NK, then it would be disadvantageous to kill, considering it’s more likely to hit town
You’re forced to kill.
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Everyone should at least be tracking someone tonight. This means everyone should say their cards and who they used their action on upon an agreement of town and any preliminary results.
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@PressF4Respect
No. We should all bet. Why? Because the NK is up for grabs by everyone, and if we all bet, it’ll be more likely than not that town will get the NK, thus robbing scum of the only way they can reliably kill off town.
It’s more likely a town will kill a town but it’s definitely better if a townie gets the shot cause there’s still a chance they kill mafia. Everyone should be betting.
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With 10 players there are 20 cards in play. Add the 5 on the table and 25/54 cards are in play this DP. Assuming town gets the NK it’s and town also compiles a list of who visited who or who watched who or who saved who, etc, we can force people to claim their cards depending upon behavior and hope there’s a CC for mafia.
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@BearMan
What we should go with his 25% bet, 75% fold. That way we still can have action, but with less consequence. All bet would catastrophic.
I disagree. Everyone should at least be able to track so we get the whereabouts and evidences of who visited who. If by chance someone does track or watch or save someone there’s a chance we identify scum/town. More often than not a townie will get the night kill. But corroboration helps in the long run. It’s best if we all bet this DP because of the Joker. The more information the better. We can demand cards from people we find suspicious and pray that they get counterclaimed. A 1 for 1 trade is always beneficial to town. Lmk if you get what I’m saying.
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@Speedrace
I'm ok with lynching lurkers but not people who haven't been on the site at all
No one is going not be on the site for 3 days. Inactives are people that don’t post or post rarely with no constructive comments. This is all obv contingent on the fact my behavioral reads don’t find anyone
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Yeah but you're too friendly in agreeing with me and too accurate in why it's correct.
How am I supposed to be not friendly when I agree with you lol
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I scumread Pie for being so towny and friendly, when he is town, he seems to be aggressive and scummy. This is not a joke-read.
I’ve always been an advocate for lynching DP1. But you’re welcome to believe what you want.
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@PressF4Respect
At this point, we have no way of deducing who is scum and who isn’t (since two people can have the same role). There’s most likely two scum and eight town, meaning there is a 20% of hitting scum on the lynch. Mislynches only help scum get one step closer to victory.
This is the same in normal games too. We should lynch based on behavior otherwise there’s no point cause there’s no other determinate of affiliation
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@Bullish
So if I get a straight flush, I get vigilante powers. But if it’s the best hand overall do I also get the night kill? And if so do I have to use both shots?
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We should also lynch because why not? It seems mafoa wons only when all town is gone based on this OP, not when maf vs town is 50/50 so we can be aggressive and I am johnny chan
I agree with this sentiment. 10 players. Two mafia probably. 8-2. They have to kill all 8 of us.
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@Bullish
Before Pie gets mad, it IS possible for 2 people to have the same role.
Well ya it’s pretty obvious that’s the case lmaoo
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@Discipulus_Didicit
What the fuck should I care? Does he have a history of trolling games or something? If not then this is a stupid question and you should just let him in.
He has an unconventional playstyle. Anti-town in Speed’s game so he was lynched. I don’t think he’s a troll
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@Bullish
need 1 more to start unless yall are cool with me taking RM.
I’m fine with him. It’s your game anyways. Our opinion don’t matter.
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@Vader
It comes down a lot to who obtained the power as well
150+ roles with different abilities and he puts one person who shares abilities with two people. Such an excuse of a mod
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@PressF4Respect
There was a tracker and a watcher on town’s side (two if you count the JOAT). Having all that AND a Cop would be EXTREMELY unbalanced in favour of town.
No it wouldn’t dude. The fact that two townies had the same abilities played into your favor big time. This was heavily scum sided and bastard. Flavor the cop for all I care. But the lack of an investigative role of any sorts is scum sided. This game was overtly scum sided period
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Counterclaiming characters useless. Character cop, useless. Medium useless. Bleeder useless. Negative utility as town RB and a watcher. All against strongman and a ninja. Fuck off. Whoever says that’s balanced is on crack
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@PressF4Respect
Thanks for the game Speed! And thank you Warren for that amazing sensor fakeclaim, it truly carried me to the end!
Ya cause there was no investigative role on town side. Complete disgrace and totally bastard. Worst game I’ve seen in my life
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@Speedrace
Lol Pie has become the new Supa
There were over 150 roles with different abilities and you put two townies with the same abilities, stfu dude.
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@Speedrace
You realize the strongman was odd-night and ninja was even-night right?
Fuck off dude. I’m not playing in your games again.
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@Bullish
lmao are you serious pie, having 2 of the same abilities has never been considered 'bastard,' there could be 6 full cops for all I care. If you think it's bastard then you need to check your own understanding of the game instead of blaming the mod.
Oh fuck off
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So it's JOAT, Watcher, RB, doctor and BP versus strongman and ninja. Strongman can bypass RB, doctor, JOAT 1x rb, and BP with a risk of getting watched or tracked. Ninja can bypass JOAT 1x watch, 1x track, and watcher, but can hit doctor, bp, or get RBd. Overall, it was pretty balanced.
No it wasn’t. Those are two of the most OP roles and there wasn’t even an affiliation cop. Gtfo outta here. Whoever approved this either didn’t give a fuck or is a moron.
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A character cop does jack shit when there’s no thematic link. Trash game
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It’s literally bastard to have two people with the same abilities lmao. Fuck off.
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@Intelligence_06
“We”
Aight man congrats. You won a bastard game
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@Intelligence_06
If speed was correct, then the best case scenario is that we already have won.
We lost genius
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@warren42
It wasn’t. I’ve only seen it a select few times and I don’t like it because I don’t like the JOAT’s abilities being the same as a full role, but it’s not bastard.
It’s bullshit and bastard period. It benefited you as scum that’s why you didn’t say anything. I’ve never been in a game where this was possible ever. Fucking bastard
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@Speedrace
HAVING THE SAME ABILITIES IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES, ONLY THE SAME ROLES AND CHARACTERSLunatic AND Disc checked my game and NEITHER of them said anything about it so I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT
Fuck off that game was bastard af
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Utter disgrace there were 2 people that had the same abilities
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@Intelligence_06
Nvm their names are different. Never mind. Looks like I was wrong.
If there was an Acteess two people would have the same character and role which hasn’t happened.
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@Intelligence_06
Looks like people are treating his vtnl as a vtl. Fine, the game goes on like this and I am ok with it.
Why lmao. If I lied it would be to gain towncred. As Water mentioned why would I do that. Unless you think me breadcrumbing DP2 as Wanda and a Doctor. Me knowing Speed was a bastard the entire game. Me claiming I saved Water and that resulted in a no night kill. That’s everything you’re assuming right now.
Compare this to my claim Press is simply lying about his claim. It makes sense as scum to put all the town on that list and hope it’s a massive witch-hunt which it was cause everyone on his list was town except for Supa obv. Now miraculously I’m the last one on the list and I’m scum. What are the odds of that happening?
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@skittlez09
VTNL PIEpretty obvious he's scum judging from his behaviorthis is for getting my boy bearman killed
How am I scum based on my behavior?
And I couldn’t stop BM getting lynched. Up to that point I had never ever played in a game where two people had the same abilities. It’s pure bastard. Press also agreed with.
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@PressF4Respect
Given this, why would I fake claim a role that town confirms multiple people? Town confirming people goes directly against mafia’s wincon
It doesn’t Town confirm anyone if no one on there is scum. It’s a never ending cycle which we’re at right now. Everyone on that list has been killed or lynched except me and Press. Logically it’s a good mafia tactic to put Town on that entire list
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@Intelligence_06
Well, you claimed something false, and you behaving like town does not make you a town.
What did I claim that was false?
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@Intelligence_06
I agree with you here. I think Pie is the only assured mafia in this group.
Why do you believe Press over Me?
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@PressF4Respect
It’s your cries of “LOOK IM TOWN!!!” vs my math and logic.
You don’t have math and logic lol. It’s just your word. You’re lying your ass off to get me lynched.
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@PressF4Respect
We went with you because you acted town. Which, as mafia, is the very thing that you want town to do. But now, the math is against you.
There’s no math lol. It’s your word against mine. Someone who’s been Town af vs someone who’s been buddying town.
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@Intelligence_06
Does that make you town? No. Acting town is not the same as being one.
It’s the best you got dude. It’s his word vs mine. Someone who is and was townread vs someone who buddies the guy that was townread the entire game. You’re believing his word over mine? Why?
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@PressF4Respect
Yes, you’ve acted the most town this game. You’ve gotten all of us fooled the last two DPs. But now your gimmick is up.
That’s ez for you to say lmao. All you did was buddy me the entire come and then when it’s obvious that you’re scum you claim your word is greater than mine.
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@PressF4Respect
Yes, you’ve acted the most town this game. You’ve gotten all of us fooled the last two DPs. But now your gimmick is up.
I haven’t done anything that’s scummy. You on the other hand have been called out about your role by Oro and have buddies with me. There’s nothing about my play that’s scummy. Not one. It’s your word against mine. Someone townread by a lot of people
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@WaterPhoenix
This doesn't make sense, if pie knew that he had failed the nk and he was mafia, why would he still go with the extremely incredible lie of him saving me?
Cause I’m not scum. I have been the most Town person this entire game. Press agreed with all of my courses of actions. I acted based on the information we had. I’ve been Town the entire game. Right now it’s Press’s word against mine
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