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@skittlez09
it'd be hella of a coincidence that bm and i were scum considering we were both scum last gamealthough ngl it'd be fun working with him again 😂
I’m assuming Speed used a randomizer to give roles out, so it’s possible.
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@skittlez09
considering water hasnt really been active we should prolly get rid of him asapespecially if there's 3 mafia cuz if the game goes on to long were screwed
There’s no way there are 3 mafia.
11 players so 7-3-1. They’d only need 2 mislynches to win. With 8-2-1 they’d need 3 which is the most common number used when balancing. It’s more likely than not that it’s 7-2 right now meaning we can mislynch twice before it’s MYLO.
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@Crocodile
But if you lose me you're kinda screwed cuz i am THE power role.
Your flip gives us the most info. And what do you mean THE power role? It’s obvious there are more considering it’s a role madness game.
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@bmdrocks21
There’s no use arguing with the dude. He can’t even vote in US Elections cause he’s probably not even American.
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@ethang5
Yesssss!!God's favorite team. How 'bout them boys!
YESSIR
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@PressF4Respect
Actually, what are your top 2 or 3 reads so far?
There’s at least one scum between Cookie, BM, and Croc.
I town read Oro solely because of his breadcrumbing which fits with his town meta. If Croc is scum then BM and Croc are town. If Croc turns out to be scum tomorrow everyone needs to out their roles. Water, Myself, and Oro are the only ones that have not so far. Oro has breadcrumbed. I’ve breadcrumbed somewhere in the DPs which I will point to when I claim. That leaves Water, who is null rn because of activity.
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I think we have a great plan of action. Mafia are going to need Trump’s magic wand to save their life
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@Crocodile
and last night who did you watch?
I second this.
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@warren42
(Hey, quit throwing the rotten tomatoes at me, this is quality stuff!)
Is Oro making threats again?😂
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@warren42
Damn Pie I was hoping that I would be able to say you're definitively right/wrong on the bear/cookie vs croc if we assume Press is telling the truth about number per side of the lynch (like if bear/cookie were both on or both off they wouldn't be able to be scum together because either that wouldn't work if press is telling the truth or press is lying so then you can't have two other scum)
Ya lol. I think the optimal course of action is lynching Croc cause that would force Cookie and BM to be scum fitting with Press’s claim since BM was on the lynch. If Croc is scum then that Cookie and BM are likely town.
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@warren42
Ask yourself this. Croc claimed between the two of them, right? That means if we assume either croc is scum or the other two are scum together, SOMEBODY knowingly quasi-counterclaimed town as scum. That seems pretty bold to me.
Right now from my POV the lynch is between you and Croc. Croc’s death has the ability to clear both Cookie and BearMan or implicate them. If BM and Cookie are both scum then noobiness Can explain the boldness.
Right now assuming there are 2 mafia and no more TPs, it’s 7-2. We can mislynch two more times if we have to. If however there are 3 scum then tomorrow it’s LYLO if we mislynch here
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@warren42
If Croc is town then Cookie and Bear are scum and if Cookie and Bear are town then Croc is scum. There’s no way Speed puts two characters as town affiliated with watcher and roleblocking powers
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@Crocodile
I got that big purple chin
This is what you said as justification. This in no way shape or form shows you are a JOAT.
My role is specifically "Jack Of All Trades".There can be a tracker and a roleblocker besides me.
Sure. They’d have to be aligned with the Mafia though. I’ve never been in a game unless it was specifically bastard where two people had the same powers unless one was mafia and one was town.
How do I have a weak role justification?Big boy Thanos has all infinity stones, granting him infinite powers. Hence, Jack of All Trades.
This is not what you said earlier..
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@warren42
@oromagi
@PressF4Respect
Ok so Croc is CCing both Cookie and BearMan with his JOAT claim (RB, Watcher, Tracker). So either Croc is town and Cookie + BearMan are scum or they both are town and Croc is scum. (Or Speed is a bastard)
Something concerning I found is that Ebony Maw, claimed by Cookie, is known for telekinesis. RM talked about that after he was lynched so it’s very suspicious to me.
What’s also concerning is that BearMan nor Cookie have posted justifications which are essential.
There is also the case against Croc. Hammering RM. Not posting justification until asked. Weak role justification
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@oromagi
It was one of the inactives. I didn’t bother to double check. My b. The assessment works either way BearMan and Croc
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@PressF4Respect
I have some important info.I am Corvius Glaive. My character found Vision at Edinburgh in his quest to obtain the mind stone, and also found a way into Wakanda's medical lab. Because of this, I am sensor.I used my ability DP1, and found that 4 of the people on the RM Lynch are town.Since Supa turned out to be third party, this means that there is probably one other mafia on the lynch, and one not on it, if there are 2 mafia in this game (which given the third party makes the most sense).
Pie, Oro, Press, Cookie, Supa, Croc were on the wagon.
Supa was TP. Press is Sensor. I’m town. That leaves Cookie, Oro, and Croc. I townread Oro. So Cookie and Croc from my POV. Obviously this is all assuming Press is telling the truth, and my read on Oro is correct.
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@Crocodile
I don't wanna reveal my role unless the situation is dire.
You must reveal your character and justification. The situation is dire. If you’re town it doesn’t matter. This is just a precaution if your mafia
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@warren42
Alright, sorry for putting words in your mouth there
No worries man
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@warren42
I agree with your conclusion but this is a terrible argument. Just because you cite a SCOTUS ruling doesn't mean that this falls under that jurisdiction. That case has nothing to do with how a private website and its moderators decide to enforce their code of conduct. If I made a website and said that users can't say the word "poop" I could enforce that and it wouldn't be illegal. It's not an infringement on someone's rights under 1A when it's a private business or organization doing so. You can argue that they still should allow free speech, but it seems like by saying you prefer following the case that you think the case applies here.Either the argument is bad because it's wrong or it's bad because it's unclear.
I know it’s not applicable. I’m just saying that’s the standard I’d prefer with regards to the server as a whole but definitely mafia games. Obviously a private organization can do what it wants. My apologies for being unclear.
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@Intelligence_06
My reads:Town:BearmanCrocodileOromagiCrocodileMafia:PressF4RespectWarren042The others, yea I don't know.
Reasoning behind each one?
I also want to ask why Supadudz does not have an alignment. What is he?
He was a third party survivor.
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@warren42
I just don't understand why you want to hear more from Croc. Like he's either tracker or the mafia version of it.
Now that we have character we need his role. If he’s scum then he has to use his real character otherwise he gets CCed. It’s possible he isn’t the Mafia Scout and is using a partner’s role’s information. If he uses his partners role then during claims we can find scum easily.
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@warren42
I mean I trust that he's the tracker because I did visit Supa. I confirmed that. If you're waiting for more info your only possible concern should be that he's the mafia tracker... lookout or scout or whatever it is.
Not everyone has posted yet. I don’t want premature lynches even if you seem scummy as hell.
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@WaterPhoenix
I'd like some role and char justification. You say you're this seraph knight who protects people, but you couldn't protect supa? There are a lot of maybe's here but it's pretty scummy. You being buddy-buddy with rm last game raised a lot of flags too.
Too many coincidences that I don’t like. We should take our time tho. We have three days.
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I am currently waiting for more information from Crocodile.
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@warren42
What you’re claiming is a weak doctor of sorts.
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@Crocodile
That makes me a big target lol.
You already confessed to being the Tracker. It doesn’t matter.
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“You are the SERAPH KNIGHT. Once per game, during a Night Phase, you may choose another player. For the rest of the game you will automatically visit that player at night. When you visit, you will prevent any actions that would kill that player (unless that action explicitly bypasses protective roles).”
That is what’s in Drafterman’s list states. Nothing about dying if he’s still alive. Speed in the OP stated that roles are directly from from Drafterman’s list. This cannot be a coincidence.
VTL Warren
Please be wary of hammering. Read the DP and confirm with other people before hammering as a rule of thumb.
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@Crocodile
We need a character and justification from you Croc.
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@WaterPhoenix
@Crocodile
@BearMan
@Intelligence_06
I would like your reads on every player. Who do you think is scum? Who is town? Who’s null? Please create a list and explanations for the record. I will post my reads shortly.
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So with regards to Warren. There are 2 possibilities. He’s a town member and had genuine concerns about the lynching of RM for being uncooperative
Or 2, he’s scum and knowingly buddies with him even after his lynching for towncred. It’s a WIFOM argument so Warren is null for me until new information comes out.
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@Crocodile
But you do think, "taze your genitals" is a bit overboard right? I'm not saying it's bannable material but at least a harsh warning would do.
I think it was a joke and not a legitimate threat, so know. I prefer the following of Brandenburg v Ohio
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No. The game is psychological for a reason. If there’s a problem let the process take place and leave the decision to the mods.
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@Barney
Aight if ya say so. He was referencing me so I responded to him.
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This guy comes in telling me no one cares what I post...Ends up caring a little too much what I post.
Aight
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Has your mind changed on enforcing when someone keeps harassing me in my thread and I ask them to leave me alone? If not, please display your lack of bias. The reason I am asking you this publicly is that I see no reason to keep things hush-hush.
It’s called a forum for a reason.
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This is a debate website, there are MEEP referendums on the code of conduct and enforcement of it and on top of all of that, I have explained very clearly why it is not me 'disliking' the action that makes it wrong but clear-cut elements of hypocrisy and genuine distress of victims that need a serious rule-enforcement change for people not just like myself but like speedrace when Wylted/Singularity was racist to him and whoever else suffered under trolls in Mafia games.This is not about you, you literally are not involved in this thread. Shake your pom-poms for Ragnar all you want and tell me no-one cares what I say, while caring what I say and replying to me. It doesn't matter to me.
Post your referendum. I’ll be a waiting to vote.
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Yes, others do too but they are quiet about it.When you say 'hate' you are changing the word 'dislike'. I actually am starting to resent you deeper than just dislike though, the more you are interacting with me on this thread. The reason I do not 'hate' you, aside from how little you matter to me, is that I know you are a toxic personality who cannot help what you are doing. You are not actually out to hurt me, you are out to hurt and rile up anyone who is weak and an easy target. The evidence is in the history of your posts and frequency with which you spam this emoji for no apparent reason:😂😂😂😂You enjoy people feeling laughed at by you. You relish in their agony as they type a lot to battle your few lines of humiliating bullying but the difference between your usual victim and me is that I know you are doing this, I am typing for others to read. Now, I will stop as I have said enough, you are irrelevant to this thread and your perspective on this is undeniably biased.
Wow that’s some serious analysis. My emoji use makes me a terrible person? Ya you’re like the only one I know who has a bunch of people blocked because you ‘dislike’ them. You’re entitled to your opinion. Don’t expect that you won’t hear the opposing viewpoint you hold, because if it isn’t me, it’s another. There will always be people with opposing viewpoints. Deal with it. You can’t hide forever from opposing viewpoints
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That is not how it works unless your definition of 'fine' is that he got away with it.
Well guess what? What the mod says is practically final. You don’t have to like, but the action has been taken.
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That is a complete lie but if you do actually believe that it is not my responsibility to make you realise how disliked you are, I am not a bully like you. Go and believe you are liked, just know that it's not by me and I don't go to your threads or whatever and cause you hassle or say noone cares what you say any opportunity that I get to say that.
Let’s see. Who hates me? You. Anyone else? And I’m not the one blocking people cause I’m triggered.
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First Amendment doesn't fucking apply to a privately owned website, on top of that it is not a first amendment right to say that you will put a taser to someone's genitals IRL or even that you want to, especially if you're expressing that want directly to the person.I do not need your BS, stay off my thread.
Mod already said it was fine so it was fine. And maybe you should actually read the precedent set in the court case.
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You are both extremely toxic players and people
You’re entitled to your opinion. No one has had a problem with us for a couple of years except you.
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