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@simplybeourselves
@Gamemod .... is self-voting allowed?
Yes it is.
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@RationalMadman
He also did what you did. I just saw it while rereading the DP.
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@User_2006
It’s a mistake, all good. If it happens again there will be conseequences tho.
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@warren42
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@Crocodile
Mafia time guys
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Mafia time!
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Welcome to the world of 13 Reason’s Why where teenagers have problems that result in suicide, rape, and murder. It’s a messed up world y’all.
You all know the basic rules. No copy pasting from PMs, no editing posts, no talking about the game outside this DP, so on and so forth. For voting, once a lynch threshold is reached, the DP ends, none of the everyone has to be voting bs. There are 3 mafia and 9 town members. This is a thematic game so there is a theme linking all the mafia together. Roles have been taken from Drafterman’s list and/or MafiaScum. I won’t talk about any sort of roles in the DP and I will only answer questions about your role and it’s mechanics in your PM. The game is based on Season 4. Good Luck! May the Force Be With You! May the Odds Be Ever In Your Favor!
Living Players
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11. LittleCookie
12. SimplyBeOurselves
With 12 players, it takes 7 people to lynch. You have 72 hours. DP will end Tuesday June 23rd, 2020 at 11 AM CST unless I grant an extension upon request.
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@PressF4Respect
The whole crux of his claim was built on a hypothetical. If Gaetz had a son that was black he’d be more concerned that Gaetz as a father would be. That’s definitely false. You can’t say just because it was a hypothetical he wasn’t claiming that.
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@PressF4Respect
The main crux of his argument (the part that directly counters your argument) is this:
- Then Gaetz falsely asserts Richmond is claiming to be more concerned about Gaetz family than Gaetz.
- Richmond said, If one of the black males getting killed by cops is Gaetz's then Richmond is objectively more concerned about his welfare than Gaetz.
Where did he say objectively.
- But none of the black males getting killed cops is Gaetz's so Richmond's conditional is not met and Richmond made no such claim.
So if a congressman with a black child was sitting in Gaetz’s place it would be wrong right
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@PressF4Respect
So... none of you are going to address #54? It's laid bare, right in front of your eyes.
Can’t read that on mobile cause of formatting. Explain it to me tho. Is it wrong to say I’m more concerned about your kid than you when it comes to police brutality?
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@Greyparrot
I literally don’t know how you spin this. He’s clearly claiming that he’d be more concerned about the issue of police brutality with regards to a father’s black child than the father of that black child which Is absurd.
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1. LittleCookie - 13 Reasons Why
2. PressF - Abstain
3. User - Abstain
4. Warren - Not Voting
5. Crocodile - 13 Reasons Why
6. Bear Man - 13 Reasons Why
7. SupaDudz - Bakugan
8. Speedrace - 13 Reasons Why
9. Oromagi - 13 Reasons Why
10. RationalMadman - 13 Reasons Why
11. Simply - 13 Reasons Why
12. Water - Don’t matter at this point.
I will send out PMs later tonight. If you get mafia role, please lmk your discord so I can friend you and add you to the server.
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@PressF4Respect
Even if I do concede that the US has more free speech than Canada, would that necessarily make it better? I'm asking for your opinion here.
Yes. More liberty is definitely better than less liberty.
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@PressF4Respect
What incitement is there if he said that in a black neighbourhood in Canada?
You’re really asking me this question?
The mere existence of hate speech laws show a restriction on free speech. Compare that to the US where no such law exists, we definitely have more free speech
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
It’s laughable to think that Canada banning hate speech and America not makes Canada have better free speech laws.
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@PressF4Respect
Ok, if you make a racist speech, it wouldn't be prosecuted unless there was a credible likelihood of a breach to peace that comes out of it. The same goes for an antisemitic speech.
And how would that be determined? If Brandenburg said “bury the ni****s” in the middle of Harlem should he be prosecuted? What about saying the same thing Brandenburg said in a black neighborhood in Canada. Would it be protected?
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@PressF4Respect
After further research, the answer is: It depends on the circumstances.For example, R. v. Keegstra (1990) ended up finding Keegstra guilty under Section 319(2), but this most certainly wouldn't be applicable in ALL cases that are similar to this one.
Irrelevant.
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@PressF4Respect
The precedent was different before Brandenburg (in cases such as Gitlow v. New York (1925), Whitney v. California (1927), and Dennis v. United States (1951)), where the courts ruled in favour of the government. Supreme Court precedents aren't codified in law, and it is entirely possible that the future precedent will be reverted back to pre-Brandenburg standards.
Irrelevant. Those words are protected under the 1st Amendment.
As for Canada, I don't know off the top of my head, as this is one of the cases that would be more borderline (as shown by the cases above).
How is it borderline? Those cases have nothing to do with Brandenburg because it was a separate decision that came after all of those cases thus overruling the precedents ser in those case. It’s by no means borderline. The question is a yes or no question. If you have doubts about it, then that means free speech protections are stronger in the United States than Canada.
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@PressF4Respect
Alright I’ll go deeper. Would advocating for revengeance against Jews and Blacks be protected speech in Canada? Would saying “Bury the ni****s” be protected in Canada?
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@PressF4Respect
Unless it is said in a way that is likely to lead to a breach of the peace, then yes, saying the N-word in public is protected speech in Canada.
Is it ok to say “keep homosexuality out of public school?” In Canada? How would saying the N word in public ever lead to breach of peace?
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@PressF4Respect
Are you saying the N-word in a way that incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace?
It’s a simple question. Is saying the N word in public protected speech in Canada?
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where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace
Me saying the N word in a public place is protected under the first amendment. Can’t say the same in Canada
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@PressF4Respect
Kinda like the 45th president of the US, lol.Did I touch a nerve? Sorry.
Lmaoooo
Ok? My main point still stands.
Looks like you can’t read like me
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@PressF4Respect
Я думаю, что у них уже есть, товарищ
Laughable.
Yup, cuz military strength automatically means superiority. I guess North Korea would be superior to South Korea as well.
Ya about that 😬
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Canada hasn’t incorporated their rights to my understanding. I bet he doesn’t even know what incorporation is.
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@PressF4Respect
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Yup, cuz we all know nukes are the only determinant of strength. It's not like Russia would invade the US through subtler means.
They’re welcome to try.
Does that make the US superior to Canada overall?
If we can destroy your government and destroy your industry without breaking a sweat? Definitely. The nation that can cripple another nation is inherently advanced and therefore superior.
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@Greyparrot
How long did Saddam last with a military 10 times the size of Canada's? All it takes is a leader willing to use extreme force.Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991)
Literally a month. US military could probably do it in a week.
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@Greyparrot
Also, it's best to let Canada dissolve naturally if it continues to elect soy leaders. Then the USA can walk in without any resistance.
Ya we’ll let em defund their military. Soyboys don’t know how to fight.
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@PressF4Respect
Yup, so is everyone else.
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You guys would too. Have fun with that.
Really? Hmm let’s see would the Russians come after us first or Europe? We have nukes. Russia has nukes. You on the other hand 😬
A 1v1 US-Canada War would very quickly turn into another Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afghanistan – except a lot closer to home.Also, why are you basing outward superiority solely on military might? Ever heard of soft power?
Irrelevant. We’d defeat your military easily. We’d take Ottawa within a month. You couldn’t do the same in a 1v1 with minimal external influence. Just admit it, American military is far superior in technology and numbers compared to Canada.
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@Greyparrot
You think Russia, China, and the US combined could conquer the world without the use of WMDs?
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@Greyparrot
America is already a pariah state. We might as well do the crime if we already did the time.
Canadiens really be delusional🤣
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@PressF4Respect
Article 5 isn't something where countries can just go meh. It's binding to all member nations. This means that an attack on one NATO member nation is an attack on ALL. The US attacking Canada would be a declaration of war to every single NATO member.
Yup, Luxembourg is gonna send it’s troops to fight against the Americans. NATO countries can’t do anything without the US. If we withdrew from NATO every single country would have to deal with the Russians. Have fun with that.
Also, if the US were to invade Canada, it would instantly become a pariah state. Its trustworthiness on the global state would vanish, and almost every single country on this planet would immediately place embargoes on it. The US economy would completely collapse. And when I said 28 nations, I was just referring to those in NATO. Other countries would also join in (as they would see the US as a threat), and pretty soon it would be WWIII, with the US on one side and everyone else on the other.But lemme guess, you guys think the US would still win 🤣
That wasn’t the premise. In a 1v1 the US would crush Canada. If you disagree with that then you’re ignorant or you need help lol.
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