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@TheRealNihilist
Okay. Well when you find yourself ill without the money to pay for it I am sure you will be wanting public healthcare but guess not now.
And that’s the risk people are willing to take.
Guess you don't need a police force keeping you in check and others.
Apples to oranges comparison again.
This was the first link he gave. I have already addressed this. They do not know the methodology, they are going by some sort of error system that might be correct. Without that information I can't accept it since how do they know it is right?
Why would they be claiming that without some sort of evidence. No network has called Iowa. Each network has their own number crunchers and non of them have called it. It’s a number thing that multiple networks have reported. The main claim is that the result is not 100% rn so you can’t really say Pete won. It’s your prerogative to not believe them. But different organizations have reached the same conclusion based on the numbers.
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nothing in that article convinced me that the BDS movement is anti-semetic. In large part because it is a movement, not a single organization. I am sure there are anti-semetic people who are in the movement. There are lots that aren't. There is nothing anti-semetic about using economic pressure to correct human rights abuse. People will argue that literally anything that anyone does that Israel doesn't like is anti-semetic.
Oh so just because you don’t think it’s anti-semitic means it isn’t? Cause Americans overwhelmingly denounced the organization as anti-semitic. They have a direct goal of exterminating the Israeli State. If that’s not anti-Semitic idk what is lol.
lol well paris isn't part of germany is it? The french continued resisting until the germans were forced back into their own land. The palestinians are going to continue fighting until the israeli's are forced back into Israel. Pretending like Israel can keep the stolen land and somehow peace could happen is a bad joke,
Currently it is not because the Allied forces recaptured it and gave it back to France lol. You fail to denounce the claim that the Palestinians started this conflict. To preserve national security, occupation is required. Simple as that. My point is that peace isn’t going to happen anyways because the Palestinians demand the extermination of the Israeli State.
please prove that every single palestinian wants to destroy israel? Otherwise this is a massive generalization without any supporting evidence.
I love how you dodge my request for a source and then ask for one yourself. It’s impossible to prove that every Palestinian wants Israel gone. I never said that either. I was talking about Palestinians in general want Israel gone. Stop misrepresenting what I’m saying. A vast majority of Palestinians want Israel gone. You have to prove that a vast majority of Israelis want the Palestinians gone.
this literally makes no sense. How does stealing some land prevent genocide. With or without that land the israeli army is extremely well equipped and capable. The land does not protect israel in any way. It is just stolen property they want to keep.
Pretty simple. They tried to do it in 1967 by invading Israel. That land was the springing ground for the military operations, which no military commander would give up. Strength of an army means nothing against guerilla tactics. Afghanistan and Vietnam’s proved that. You need to study up on military tactics and strategy. The land belongs to Israel because they rightfully invaded it and took because that was where the attacks on Israel were launched from. A peace plan was presented, but rejected by the Palestinians because they want Israel gone. Plain and simple.
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@TheRealNihilist
I think I know what’s best for me than the govt 🤷♂️.Everyone needs healthcare because people eventually get sick. It is been demonstrated across the developed countries of how effective the public option is. I reject even answering the loaded question.
Whether you can drink and drive
That’s not something I need. Terrible analogy.
Found no data supporting the claim. HistoryBuff has failed to do so currently I'll wait to see if you can do it if you want.
Such a shame he couldn’t.
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Looks like you didn’t bother reading the articles I send you. BDS is clearly anti-semetic. If you bothered to read the article it explains exactly why.
It just doesn’t fit your narrative that these congresswomen support an anti-semitic movement.
lol so when the nazi's took paris, paris became a german city?
Uh ya. That’s what conquest and invasions do. Annex parts of another nation. How do you think the Roman Empire got to where it was. The argument that they do not “own” it is worthless. They rightfully invaded the land in their defense and need to hold it for national security.
Some jewish people would love to expel or kill all the palestinians i'm sure
Source?
Peace is impossible while israel continues to refuse to give back the land they have stolen.
Peace is impossible in general because the Palestinians want Israel to be exterminated. That’s not me saying that, it’s them. There is no peace until that happens. Dismissing it as only “some people believe that” is inherently false. They’ve made it very clear they are not going to stop till Israel is gone. Occupation of that land prevents a mass genocide from happening.
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@TheRealNihilist
I guess you care about individual choice more than safety? Okay. I value the other.
So you’re ok with forcing people to pay for something they don’t want or need? Plus the govt shouldn’t be deciding whether I need something or not..
A recount only means they are counting the same votes again. Very unlikely Bernie will be on top of that.
Not true. Over a 100 precincts didn’t match up and since the margin is so small it’s more than plausible that Bernie will come out on top.
Oh yeah he is up in NH.
He won now
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@HistoryBuff
refused to condemn what? Please provide a reference.
Refused to condemn BDS.
Here’s proof showing why BDS is anti-Semetic.
no. The land has been stolen. No treaty ever granted that land to israel. If Israel ever wants peace they will give it back. Otherwise the current stalemate of terrorism and bombings will continue forever.
They took the land after they were attacked by the Palestinians and Arabs because they wanted to exterminate the Jewish State. That’s the goal no matter how much you deny it. They won’t be content with “their land.” Israel rightfully took the land by invading it in response to national security and keeps it to this day for the exact same reason.
and to be clear I mean the settlements on Palestinian land, I don't mean all of israel.
They want to get rid of the Jewish State. It’s pretty simple. I don’t know how you support that. There is no such thing as peace until the Jewish State is exterminated. And that’s not me saying it. It’s the Palestinians and groups that support them.
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@HistoryBuff
I think you misunderstand. When asked they’ve refused to condemn it lol. As for settlements I’ve said that they lost the land...
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@HistoryBuff
But it can't happen until Israel stops occupying so much stolen Palestinian land.
The land is rightfully Israel’s. Won after the various wars the Muslims waged upon the Jews in their anti-semitic attacks which still exist today and Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar refuse to condemn today.
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@HistoryBuff
lol so the people who have been living under an economic blockade are the greedy ones? The people who have been consistently stealing land are somehow innocent?
All I know is if you don’t support the Jews, you’re a Nazi 🤷♂️
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@TheRealNihilist
Obama did well with healthcare and he was a Democrat.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Obamacare was a disaster that penalized individual choice
<br>Democrats hire people for a job and they did bad. I would say it the Democrats fault for trusting an innovation in delivering a caucus but I would say there is still some amount of blame given to the company. I don't really know how to divey the blame so I would blame both.Pete did win Iowa and Bernie is currently no winning New Hampshire so...
A recount is happening in Iowa so Pete technically hasn’t won. And Bernie is up in NH by an average of 7-8 points.
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I support a Jewish state. “Palestinians” have their own place. They can accept it and live in peace or be greedy. Pretty simple.
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Lololol Democrats can’t run a caucus and they want to run our healthcare 😂😂. That being said Trump v Bernie is the easiest Trump win ever
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@Lunatic
Everyone sees the world through a different lens I guess lol
Indeed. Watch Narcos Mexico. Season Two comes out these week
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@Lunatic
Carrillo feels like he fits that more, he was always crossing the line lol. Pretty surprised he wasn't in. That would have made an epic fake claim.
Carrillo didn’t warrant a miller role in my opinion. He did nothing that would make him guilty.
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@Lunatic
What were some more of your thoughts on the game? Were you lowkey hoping town would make a comeback or too busy facepalming the whole time lol?
I was fuming the entire game. At when u talked about claiming miller I was like you’re dead. But town was just stupid. And Pena was a good Miller btw. He helped kill Escobar but in doing so committed treason in the show. Quica was kind of forced.
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Sign-ups
In the Hopper
Zaradi - D&D
Virtuoso
Bullish (Memes of the 2010's)
SupaDudz- Total Drama Island
drafterman
Discipulus_Didicit - Star Control (no bastard mechanics)
Speedrace
Lunatic- Pick yer poison!
ILikePie5 - Bakugan or Riverdale
On Hold
warren42
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If he was the last townie alive town would win
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@Discipulus_Didicit
<br>So my excuse is that my mod called the JOAT a cop.
Ya I think I meant to put WP as the Sheriff but then changed it at some point to cop. My b.
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@Speedrace
You will go down in history for hosting the first game on which Supa apologized
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On a side note, if y’all asked for me to clarify your role and PM since it was in Spanish, I would’ve done that.
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
@oromagi
@Zaradi
@Singularity
Endgame is up.
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@Greyparrot
@David
@Vader
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
Endgame is up.
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Mafia Wins
TOWN
Speed - Tu eres Pablo Escobar - Tienes mucha influencia en la ciudad de Medellín porque eres el líder del cártel de Medellín. Con esta posición, tienes el poder de salvar las vidas de sus sicarios o matarles. Por esa razón es él Doctor. Cade noche puedes salvar una person, no si mismo. Ganas con el Pueblo.
Supa- Tu eres La Quica. Estuviste arrestado por los agentes de la DEA, pero con la ayuda de Pablo Escobar dejó los Estados Unidos y regresó a Colombia. Por Pablo Escobar mataste muchas personas pero fuiste el segundo antes del fin de los sicarios que fueron capturados. Por eso eres un Hider. Cada noche puedes esconder detrás una person, pero si esta persona muriera, tu morirías también. Ganas con el Pueblo.
Singularity - Tu eres Limon. Estuviste él persona más loyal al Pablo Escobar hasta él fin. Mataste su amiga Maritza para dinero así que Pablo Escobar puede vivir y usar él dinero. Cuando los gringos aparecieron, tomó una bala pero ayudaste Pablo a escapar por un momento. Estuviste él final sicario. Por eso, eres él Soldier. Si estuviera él final miembro del Pueblo vivo, el Pueblo va a ganar. Ganas con el Pueblo.
MAFIA
Drafterman - Usted se llama Chepe. Usted ayuda con los negocios del cartel de Cali en Nueva York. Después envía las ganancias a Colombia para los otros miembros del cartel y los gringos no lo supieron. Por esa razón usted es un Ninja. Cuando hace la mata de la noche, nadie puede verte. Usted gana con la Mafia.
Lunatic - Tu eres Valeria Vélez. Aunque Pablo Escobar tenía una esposa, tú tenías un relación romántica con ella. Cuando había un problema con la hija del Presidente Ayala, decidiste a hablar con Pablo sobre el problema y Pablo le secuestró así que no ella no podía reportar. Por esa razón eres el Roleblocker. Cada noche puedes prevenir las acciones de una persona. Ganas con la Mafia.
NP1
Speed - Save Singularity; Success
Water - Investigate Singularity; Success
Supa - Hide begins Lunatic; Success
GP - Waive
Oro - Track Supa; Failed
Drafter - NK Bullish; Success
Zaradi - Act like Speed; Success
Lunatic - Waive
NP2
Speed - Save Singularity; NK
WaterPhoenix - Investigate Disc; Success
GP - Send message to Lunatic (Roleblocked)
Oro - Track Drafter
Drafter - NK Speed
Zaradi - Act like Oromagi
Lunatic - Roleblock GP
NP3
WaterPhoenix - Investigate Oro; NK
GP - Send message to DD (Roleblocked)
Oro - Track GP
Drafter - NK Water
Zaradi - Act like Singularity
Lunatic - Roleblock GP
Water - Investigate Singularity; Success
Supa - Hide begins Lunatic; Success
GP - Waive
Oro - Track Supa; Failed
Zaradi - Act like Speed; Success
Lunatic - Waive
WaterPhoenix - Investigate Disc; Success
GP - Send message to Lunatic (Roleblocked)
Oro - Track Drafter
Zaradi - Act like Oromagi
Lunatic - Roleblock GP
GP - Send message to DD (Roleblocked)
Oro - Track GP
Zaradi - Act like Singularity
Lunatic - Roleblock GP
The thematical divide was members killed by Los Pepes and those that were not. That being said. Town play was horracious this game. From the onset with the two Millers. If you know anything about me, I’m a stickler for roles and CCs. At the very least one of DD and Lunatic should’ve been a policy, more likely Lunatic, not Virt. NP1, I have no clue why Grey refused to send a message to some. Anyone. Then comes DP2 where Supa decides that he doesn’t want to read his role and gets lynched because of that. NP2, Water decides to investigate a claimed Miller which is beyond stupid. DP3 was the brightest spot because of the VTNL. To DP4, if any town member bothered to read Water’s PM, he had a vigilante power as well. DP4 should’ve resulted in Drafterman being lynched. Zero excuses here. Mafia took some unnecessary risks as well with the Miller claim and Role Cop claim but they played their hand perfectly. Town play was atrocious. With that being said, I personally think the balance was really well made. Only thing that could be considered OP was the Ninja, but even then, a Cop and a Doctor were available. That being said, I’m still striving to learn, so any feedback would be much appreciated.
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Zaradi - (1/4) Oro
Disc - (4/4) Grey, Zaradi, Drafter, Lunatic
Disc was lynched...he was innocent. Endgame up in a bit.
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@drafterman
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Zaradi
Hoy es el día de ganar o morir.
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Graveyard:
DP1 - Virtuoso - Tú eres Pacho Herrera. Eres un miembro del cartel de Cali y fuiste a México para negociar con los Mexicanos sobre el movimiento de la cocaína. Los asesinos del Norte Del Valle te atacaron pero les mataron aunque recibiste una bala. Por eso eres un 1x Bulletproof. Por una vez, si algúien te matara por la noche no moririas, pero él segundo vez, vas a morir. Ganas con el Pueblo.
NP1 - Bullish - Usted se llama Judy Moncada. Después del muerte de su esposo por Pablo Escobar, decidiste a ver el fin del poder de Pablo Escobar. Decidiste a trabajar con Don Berna y el cartel del Cali pero por el fin salió Colombia por todo el tiempo y nunca podía regresar. Por eso usted es él Ascetic. Nadie puede dirigir acciones que no son letales a ti. Gana con el Pueblo.
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DP2 - Supa - Tu eres La Quica. Estuviste arrestado por los agentes de la DEA, pero con la ayuda de Pablo Escobar dejó los Estados Unidos y regresó a Colombia. Por Pablo Escobar mataste muchas personas pero fuiste el segundo antes del fin de los sicarios que fueron capturados. Por eso eres un Hider. Cada noche puedes esconder detrás una person, pero si esta persona muriera, tu morirías también. Ganas con el Pueblo.
NP2 - Speed - Tu eres Pablo Escobar - Tienes mucha influencia en la ciudad de Medellín porque eres el líder del cártel de Medellín. Con esta posición, tienes el poder de salvar las vidas de sus sicarios o matarles. Por esa razón es él Doctor. Cade noche puedes salvar una person, no si mismo. Ganas con el Pueblo.
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NP3 - WaterPhoenix - Usted se llama Steve Murphy - Es el gringo más famoso de Colombia. Al primer, no sabía mucho español, pero con tiempo lo aprendiste. Con su posición de la DEA, puedes trabajar con la policía local. También participaste en el muerte de Pablo Escobar. Por esa razón usted es él Cop. Cada noche, puedes investigar alguna persona y una noche puedes matar una person. Usted gana con el Pueblo.
Living Players:
1. Drafterman
2. Lunatic
3. DD
4. Zaradi
5. Greyparrot
6. Oromagi
7. Singularity
With 7 players, it takes 4 players to lynch. The DP will end in 72 hours on Wednesday February 8th, 2020 at 10:45 AM CST.
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VTNL - (5/5) Lunatic, Disc, Greyparrot, Singularity, Zaradi
Oro - (1/5) Drafter
The DP has ended in a NO LYNCH. You have 24 hours to submit Night Actions.
PLEASE STOP POSTING.
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VTNL - (4/5) Lunatic, Disc, Greyparrot, Singularity
Oro - (2/5) Drafter, Zaradi
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VTNL - (3/5) Lunatic, Disc, Greyparrot
Oro - (2/5) Drafter, Zaradi
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@Zaradi
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Oro - (2/5) Drafter, Zaradi
VTNL - (2/5) Lunatic, Disc
Disc - (1/5) Greyparrot
Sorry bout that, I didn’t see it 😬
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Oro - (2/5) Drafter, Zaradi, Disc
Disc - (1/5) Greyparrot
VTNL - (1/5) Lunatic
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Oro - (2/5) Drafter, Zaradi
Greyparrot - (1/5) Disc
Disc - (1/5) Greyparrot
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Greyparrot - (1/5) Disc
Disc - (1/5) Greyparrot
Oro - (1/5) Drafter
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@Greyparrot
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
@Singularity
Bienvenidos pendejos
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Zaradi
Es el tiempo de ganar.
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Graveyard:
DP1 - Virtuoso - Tú eres Pacho Herrera. Eres un miembro del cartel de Cali y fuiste a México para negociar con los Mexicanos sobre el movimiento de la cocaína. Los asesinos del Norte Del Valle te atacaron pero les mataron aunque recibiste una bala. Por eso eres un 1x Bulletproof. Por una vez, si algúien te matara por la noche no moririas, pero él segundo vez, vas a morir. Ganas con el Pueblo.
NP1 - Bullish - Usted se llama Judy Moncada. Después del muerte de su esposo por Pablo Escobar, decidiste a ver el fin del poder de Pablo Escobar. Decidiste a trabajar con Don Berna y el cartel del Cali pero por el fin salió Colombia por todo el tiempo y nunca podía regresar. Por eso usted es él Ascetic. Nadie puede dirigir acciones que no son letales a ti. Gana con el Pueblo.
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DP2 - Supa - Tu eres La Quica. Estuviste arrestado por los agentes de la DEA, pero con la ayuda de Pablo Escobar dejó los Estados Unidos y regresó a Colombia. Por Pablo Escobar mataste muchas personas pero fuiste el segundo antes del fin de los sicarios que fueron capturados. Por eso eres un Hider. Cada noche puedes esconder detrás una person, pero si esta persona muriera, tu morirías también. Ganas con el Pueblo.
NP2 - Speed - Tu eres Pablo Escobar - Tienes mucha influencia en la ciudad de Medellín porque eres el líder del cártel de Medellín. Con esta posición, tienes el poder de salvar las vidas de sus sicarios o matarles. Por esa razón es él Doctor. Cade noche puedes salvar una person, no si mismo. Ganas con el Pueblo.
Living Players:
1. Drafterman
2. Lunatic
3. DD
4. Zaradi
5. Greyparrot
6. WaterPhoenix
7. Oromagi
8. Singularity
With 8 players, it takes 5 players to lynch. The DP will end in 72 hours on Sunday February 8th, 2020 at 4:30PM CST.
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Supa - (6/6) Singularity, Speed, Supa, Zaradi, Oromagi, Lunatic
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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Supa was lynched. He was.....innocent. You have 24 hours to submit night actions
STOP POSTING
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Supa - (5/6) Singularity, Speed, Supa, Zaradi, Oromagi
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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Supa - (3/6) Singularity, Speed, Supa
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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Supa - (4/6) Singularity, Speed, Oro, Supa
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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Supa - (5/6) Singularity, Speed, Oro, Supa, Zaradi
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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