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@Speedrace
Results?
I did me and Press. We aren’t the same affiliation. Meaning that he’s mafia or jester.
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Cars is amazing. 3 was just a politically correct movie catering to women. Progressively got worst as is the case with pretty much all movies with sequels
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@Speedrace
Lol only if Mafia throws. If not, then we're ok. If Mafia wants to lose, that's on them
Screw it, let’s do it
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@Speedrace
You win, I gotta do college apps
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@Speedrace
The logic is that Mafia would lose in that scenario, therefore, they have to NK him or lose. The only way the plan doesn't work is if they choose to throw. It's reasonable to assume they DON'T want to throw, therefore, we should do the plan
Alright, you win. But remember if Jester does win. “I told you this would happen.”
VTNL
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@SirAnonymous
Let me put it this way. If mafia can’t win, they’d rather bring town down with them
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@Speedrace
And no, that's not an out. If Mafia is anyone who isn't Press, they'll kill someone who isn't Press. Then we vote Press, he votes himself, Mafia loses. Therefore, they still have to NK Press or lose.
Yup and Town will lose too cause they knowingly lynched a confessed Jester.
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@SirAnonymous
That out wouldn't work. If the mafia NKs a towny and PressF is the jester, then the plan would have us vtl PressF. Since he would hammer himself, mafia would lose. If PressF is the mafia, then the plan works. Either way, the mafia can't win.
In which case we both lose. We are gambling on the fact that mafia will kill Press. If he’s alive, he’s a confessed Jester and y’all would still lynch him. What logic do you see in this,
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@SirAnonymous
<br>That wouldn't work because the jester would vtl themselves. They want to be lynched, remember?
That’s why I’m saying it would be idiotic to lynch while a Jester is alive lmao.
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@Speedrace
<br>Jester won't win anyway, and therefore has no reason not to vote Mafia
They have no reason to vote with town either lol
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@Speedrace
And then you come up with some "out" that you can't say?
I can say and I just did. But now mafia knows.
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@SirAnonymous
If they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.
Mafia kills a townie. It’ll be 2-1-1. 3 votes to lynch. Town needs support of Jester in which case Jester loses, hence mafia wins. Simple really.
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@Speedrace
I'm starting to suspect that YOU'RE the mafia.
No I’m a townie who thinks it’s stupidity to lynch while a Jester is alive
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@Speedrace
Do you think Mafia wants to win? Yes or no. If you think Mafia is ok with throwing, then go ahead, don't follow the plan. But if you think Mafia wants to win, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT. Literally the only way this doesn't go our way is if Mafia is ok with losing
I already told you, they have an out (I can’t disclose it).
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@Speedrace
Follow the plan. If Press ISN'T NKd, he MUST be Mafia
Dude you’re gambling so hard rn.
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@SirAnonymous
How can it be over? It hasn't been 36 hours since the DP started. It's only been 15. I think he had the date of the ending time wrong.
Whew we good then
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@SirAnonymous
I think we need to wait to see if it's possible to joint win with a jester. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
Jester wins when they’re lynched there’s, no joint win per win condition
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@SirAnonymous
Shoot, I just realized the DP ended a couple of hours ago
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@Speedrace
Yes, that's why I said it's flawless unless they throw. If they throw then we lose to, but they lose as well. That's the risk, but I'm counting on Mafia wanting to win
It’s idiotic for town to lynch while a Jester is alive. Especially a confessed Jester
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@SirAnonymous
My bad.
You’re good, it happens
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@Speedrace
Dude. We're saying to Mafia, you HAVE TO KILL THE JESTER or we will lynch him and you'll lose. Do they have to kill jester for their son condition? No, of course not, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we're forcing their hand and MAKING them kill the jester because they'll lose if they don't
Ya we’ll lose too. Doesn’t matter to mafia. To them y’all dug your own grave lmao
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@SirAnonymous
If this is a lie, Pie is scum. Thus, the only two options for scum are Pie and Press. Since Press claimed jester, our best bet is to lynch Pie first to avoid risking a 3rd-party win, then lynch Press next round because he would be the only possible option. This plan is further supported by the scum slip that Pie just made.
It was directed to Speed lol
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@SirAnonymous
Its idiotic to lynch when a Jester is alive.
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@Speedrace
The only way they can get out of this is if they're a role cop, already role copped Press, and know he's not a Jester. That's incredibly unlikely
Dude, I don’t understand what your point is. Mafia don’t have to kill Press if he’s the Jester. If you do vote for him tomorrow you’re likely screwing us over.
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@SirAnonymous
Can the jester joint win with town or mafia?
No. They win above town or mafia if they’re lynched meaning they can’t joint win.
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@Speedrace
Only if Mafia throws
No there’s a course of action that benefits mafia, but I’m not gonna give them any ides, cause we have inexperience amongst our midst to an extent. I’m likely the NK target anyways because of the fact they took out experience.
Right now we should focus on the fact that there are three people that can be mafia: Me, SA, and Press. Most likely it’s between me and SA.
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@Speedrace
Yes, they do, because we'll lynch him if they don't. We're forcing them to lose unless they NK him
You’re possibly forcing us to lose too lol
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@Speedrace
EXACTLY. Which is why Mafia has to kill him because they don't want to lose. If they don't kill him, he has to be Mafia and doesn't want to kill himself. You see?
No lol that’s not how it works. Mafia wincondition is different. You wanting to lynch If the Jester is alive is stupid
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@Speedrace
Are you missing the logic here? If he isn't NKd, he HAS TO BE Mafia. There's no other avenue there. This is an extremely quick method to win
Mafia don’t have to kill him. Their win condition is different lol
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@Speedrace
Will you back me on lynching Press next DP if he isn't NKd?
If the Jester does die then ofc lol
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@Speedrace
No, because Mafia HAS to kill him or instantly lose. That means if he doesn't die, he has to be Mafia
If he’s lynched town and mafia lose lol
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@Speedrace
Will you back me on lynching Press next DP if he isn't NKd?
Hell no. We shouldn’t be lynching someone With a Jester around
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@Speedrace
So basically, if Mafia isn't Press and he DOESN'T die, Mafia will lose. So you have no choice but to NK him.
You realize we lose too right?
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@Speedrace
Who’d you give the second key to lmaoHe motivated me, he's confirmedWater, motivate me again tomorrow night, trust me...
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@PressF4Respect
I did lol
Well congrats, you just lost lol
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@WaterPhoenix
I'm motivator
And who’d you motivate?
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@Speedrace
@SirAnonymous
I have a course of action for tonight after WP and Press Claim
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@Speedrace
Lollll ok
You already know Press gonna come and make a mess lol
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@Speedrace
I think THAT was a scumslip. You can't accuse a town confirmed player of being scum...
It was sarcasm lmao
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@WaterPhoenix
@PressF4Respect
Time is ticking for your claims.
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@Speedrace
How is that a scumslip? I've literally been town confirmed TWICE
I know. It was sarcasm for what Press would say lol
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@SirAnonymous
It could also be another gambit.
More like WIFOM
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@SirAnonymous
How is water confirmed?
This may be a scum slip
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@Speedrace
Water is town confirmed in the same way that Sir was able to confirm me, so don't bother with him. I'll let him claim though
How is he town confirmed?
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@Speedrace
Results?
Oops sorry just saw this.
I chose Drafter and you. Y’all’s affiliation was the same, hence you’re town.
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