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@Lunatic
Nice one Lunatic. I suspected you were scum since Day 1. It was pretty much confirmed after Zaradi died.
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@SirAnonymous
What if Press or Zaradi is mafia and the game continued because drafter needed to know whether or not Pie would win, so drafter couldn't tell us that we had lynched the real mafia.
There’s explicitly only 1 mafia
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@Lunatic
Im TP lol, you saw that. Angel is only role that does that as far as I know.
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@Speedrace
All three times I've been Mafia, I've had CCs (or kind of CCs) that I've used. Why would I purposefully do that to myself again?
Confess you barbarian
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@SirAnonymous
So it makes sense for Lunatic to waive on NKs for WIFOM but not for you to not kill Lunatic for WIFOM? I don't think so. Furthermore, as Lunatic pointed out, you needed to kill Pie. Zaradi had watched Pie in the past, and so far as you knew, he could be watching Lunatic or anyone else you wanted to kill.
Vote Speed, let’s get this over with. It’s so obvious he’s scum.
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@SirAnonymous
<br>The day phase will end on 11/24 at 9:00am EST or when all players have voted.
Idts
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@SirAnonymous
<br>We've got 3 votes on Press.
DP doesn’t end till time ends or everyone votes.
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@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
Please vote. Press is going to be lynched anyways so stop wasting time.
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@SirAnonymous
Well, it would have been good evidence that Zaradi that Zaradi was scum. However, it was still a bad idea. Redirecting to me so Zaradi would have died instantly had he been scum would have been smarter.
That’s what Press should’ve done if he was town. Its inherently scummy to risk killing the only kill preventive role. Let’s get this over with and vote Press.
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@Lunatic
I agree with SA chances are scum being between speed and press are very high. Id honestly rather lynch press first because his activity has been higher than normal. I think hes mafia which is why he has more incentive to post. That and his night actions are absolute garbage
I’m fine with this. Lynch Press and Nurse Speed.
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@Speedrace
He was trying to send Zar's kill to Lunatic
Which is inherently anti town since he’s risking killing a town protective role.
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@Speedrace
But wouldn't I kill Lunatic? He's the only real danger to me, and much more so than Zaradi
They’re both a threat to you. One can see you and the other can roleblock you.
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@Speedrace
Huh? Mafia wins when town is dead, they wouldn't care about a third party, especially since the protective thing they did on you is gone
A TP helping town is a threat to them.
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@Lunatic
I'm not gonna lie, im becoming a bit less sure that speed is town because the first night I don't block him a kill goes through lol. I am gonna think on this one more. Press still seems scummy, and I still don't see town motive for his night actions for the last two night phases.
Lynch Press and RB Speed or vice versa. Scum is guaranteed among one of them per my calculations.
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@PressF4Respect
If what Zar said was true (which turns out it was), then nothing would happen to Lunatic. If Lunatic died, then it's very likely that Zar would be scum.
Didn’t we establish that watching doesn’t count as visiting or am I just trippin
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@PressF4Respect
If Lunatic didn't die, then Zar would be confirmed town, since any action that Zar would have done, if he was mafia, would be redirected onto Lunatic.
So you wanted to kill a protective role and another town member?
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@PressF4Respect
I did this because I wanted to confirm Zar to be town.
How?
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@SirAnonymous
We should probably figure out who to lynch before time runs out.
Someone from Press, Zaradi, Speed. Or me if you wanna confirm me,
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@oromagi
I like 3 days. And then like a 10-15 game ban on modding
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Aight right now it’s 5-1
Assuming we confirm me today by lynching SA to ensure the 5-1 and the NK goes through it’s 4-1.
The scum as I mentioned before are between Zaradi, Press, and Speed. We lynch one of them and with NK it’ll be 2-1. By this point at least 1 on the list should be dead assuming me and and Lunatic are NKed. Last three players will be SA and 2/3: Zaradi, Press, and Speed. The chances of SA being scum at that point will be 33% but hitting scum between the remaining 3 a significantly higher.
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@Lunatic
Or a lylo situation, where the last three are the mafia, SA, and a townie, and the townie gets lynched. I asked drafter.
In a LYLO it’d be me, SA, and scum. If SA is scum he already won at that point. The 80% increases as we conduct POE up to LYLO
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@Lunatic
He can also join with mafia though. Also its drafter not disc lol
This is assuming SA is scum. 80% chance he isn’t scum.
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I think they should be penalized for wasting our time by putting a ban for a certain time period from modding. Likely mod again after 10 players or so mod their games.
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@SirAnonymous
If PressF redirected Zaradi to me, then Zaradi would have seen Pie visiting me. One of those three must be lying about their actions.
My protection of you doesn’t count as a “visit” and therefore can’t be redirected according to Drafterman
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@Zaradi
You're my strongest town read. Why wouldn't I watch you?
I’m not town but aight lol
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@Zaradi
<br>Pie, and no one.
Can you explain your rationale as to why me?
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@drafterman
If SA is lynchproof and he gets the necessary votes, does the DP still end?
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@PressF4Respect
1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town?
Causes confusion within town
2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.
This works for everyone, what’s your point?
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@PressF4Respect
That doesn't answer my question. As Sir himself said, just because you're his angel doesn't mean that you must do exactly what he does.
Did you read the second part? I want a lynch, you’re the best option since a watcher is more valuable than a redirector which is a negative role
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@PressF4Respect
I'm especially curious about why you decided to sheep Sir.
I’m his guardian angel. Zaradi claimed and said he watched Lunatic and got nothing. I want a lynch tho to go forward on POE. A watcher is more valuable than a Redirector in my opinion as well.
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@Speedrace
The only thing on press I can think of right now is, way back when in pizza Mafia, he purposefully waived the NK to put suspicion on the inactive playersI don't see him as scummy otherwise
Why is Zaradi scummy to you?
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@PressF4Respect
He said that he would provide reasons for VTLing me after he’s done work. He has yet to do that.
Link?
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@PressF4Respect
Zaradi is not getting lynched today. He did what you asked and gave his results. What else do you have against him?
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@SirAnonymous
Very wellPress would be easiest, that is.
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@SirAnonymous
Then why aren't you deciding between them yourself? Why vtl for the one I tell you to vtl? Why follow my lead? Just because you depend on my survival doesn't mean you have to do that.
I will be forced to. Unless you can get Speed or Lunatic to get on Press, if we want a lynch Zaradi is our only option. However, I don’t want that to happen.
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@Zaradi
Whatre your thoughts on Speed?
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@SirAnonymous
Why are you relying on my reads? This doesn't add up.
I thought we went over this: I think Scum is between Press, Speed, and Zaradi
Zaradi claims no one visited Lunatic. Who’s left? Press and Speed for today,
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@SirAnonymous
It doesn't look like we'll be able to lynch our first picks. How would you all feel about lynching Pie as a second best option?
I will vote whomever you think is most scummiest. I’d suggest between Press and Speed.
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