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@Wylted
@warren42
@Discipulus_Didicit
yall are welcome too
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
@WaterPhoenix
@PressF4Respect
@SirAnonymous
Yall down?
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Rules will be the same as Draferman’s except for the following: when a lynch has occurred, the person will be lynched and roles will not be randomized. Role assignments will be randomized. Game starts as a night phase. 4 Town, 1 Mafia, 1 Third Party.
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@Mharman
Dude if you weren’t gonna come on, don’t start the game lol. At the very least you should’ve informed us you were going on a hiatus
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@Speedrace
You have to be 50% of all living players
I asked Lunatic and he said 1-1 town ration would win me the game
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@PressF4Respect
Then we get into a 1-1-1 and it’s a 3-way tie
No I’d win cause it’s a 1-1 town ratio
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@PressF4Respect
If I were maf and I was guaranteed to lose, I would want to screw over town lol
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@Speedrace
When you said the thing about Mafia taking town down with him, that's what made me so suspicious of you. I figured if you were Mafia, you would NK me
Lmao, I should’ve been yall’s radar from the very beginning.
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@PressF4Respect
If you outed yourself as scum, well then you would look like jester and I would look like scum.If there were two town votes on you, I would do something to convince everyone that I’m scum without explicitly saying it.
Exactly. It’s a no lynch situation either way and I’d win cause I’d get the NK
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@Lunatic
Don't know how I overlooked that lol. What a mess up
I was freaking out lmao
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@Speedrace
<br>Oh lol, that's why I decided to take the cop route. Sir tracking me threw me off, I wanted him to do you
It would’ve helped me say I’m scum. With 2 town votes on me it was up to Press to hammer and lose
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@PressF4Respect
If it came down to that point I would hammer myself lolMy play was scummy af so it wouldn’t be too difficult to convince everyone that I was scum
I meant if I had 2 townies on me, would you cast your vote for me and lose as Jester?
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@Speedrace
But we didn't know you were Mafia, the fact you didn't kill him meant you were ok with losing if you were Mafia, but Mafia wants to win, therefore he had to be mafia
No. I’d reveal myself as scum at the beginning of the DP. Then it’d be up to y’all lol
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@Speedrace
<br>You losing is your problem lol
Like I said, if y’all lynch Press knowing that I’m mafia, that’s your perogative
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@SirAnonymous
Weren't you concerned that we would lynch PressF this round and make you lose?
No cause I’d out myself as scum. I wasn’t lying when I told y’all mafia had an out.
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@Speedrace
Did you target me?
Yup. Motivator swung the game so hard in y’alls favor. Allowed you to be townconfirmed and me screwed if he gave the action to me
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@Speedrace
So you were gonna blow the game like that? You were ok with lynching Press?
Obviously not. At that point I’d out myself as mafia. Y’all were welcome to lynch Press and ensure y’all lose. That’s not my problem.
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@Speedrace
Mafia or Jester?
Mafia Janitor lol. I had y’all. I just need to get the NK and then out myself
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@PressF4Respect
I have a question. If I was left with 2 town and you, would you vote to lynch me essentially making you lose?
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@Speedrace
You're actually town?
Hell no lol
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@Speedrace
I appreciate you confirming yourself, but I really wish you had tracked Pie lol
Wouldn’t have mattered lol
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@Lunatic
Well shit. Game is over due to a mod fuck up lol.Nobody wins. Sorry to waste your time. Speed wasn't supposed to send a second key, motivator shouldnt have been able to visit him.I feel bad but not that bad since its only a quickfire.
Oof
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@Speedrace
What does this mean? Mainly, what does the dash mean?
Y’all don’t know? I assumed y’all knew lol
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@SirAnonymous
Technically, Pie could be telling the truth if drafter was the jester.
I am telling the truth...
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@Speedrace
Yet I was able to take other actions lol. I gave myself a key and used it, then gave one to Sir and Water. I'm guessing you tried to NK me ;)
No lol.
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@Speedrace
Yes you can. I used a key and gave a key. Water motivated me and used a key
“But you will not be able to take any other actions.”
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@SirAnonymous
The mafia is almost certain to NK me. It would require WaterPhoenix to motivate me and you to key me so I can both cop and live to tell the tale.
If you use your key you can’t use your action.
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@Speedrace
Results?
I did me and Press. We aren’t the same affiliation. Meaning that he’s mafia or jester.
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Cars is amazing. 3 was just a politically correct movie catering to women. Progressively got worst as is the case with pretty much all movies with sequels
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@Speedrace
Lol only if Mafia throws. If not, then we're ok. If Mafia wants to lose, that's on them
Screw it, let’s do it
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@Speedrace
You win, I gotta do college apps
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@Speedrace
The logic is that Mafia would lose in that scenario, therefore, they have to NK him or lose. The only way the plan doesn't work is if they choose to throw. It's reasonable to assume they DON'T want to throw, therefore, we should do the plan
Alright, you win. But remember if Jester does win. “I told you this would happen.”
VTNL
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@Speedrace
@SirAnonymous
Let me put it this way. If mafia can’t win, they’d rather bring town down with them
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@Speedrace
And no, that's not an out. If Mafia is anyone who isn't Press, they'll kill someone who isn't Press. Then we vote Press, he votes himself, Mafia loses. Therefore, they still have to NK Press or lose.
Yup and Town will lose too cause they knowingly lynched a confessed Jester.
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@SirAnonymous
That out wouldn't work. If the mafia NKs a towny and PressF is the jester, then the plan would have us vtl PressF. Since he would hammer himself, mafia would lose. If PressF is the mafia, then the plan works. Either way, the mafia can't win.
In which case we both lose. We are gambling on the fact that mafia will kill Press. If he’s alive, he’s a confessed Jester and y’all would still lynch him. What logic do you see in this,
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@SirAnonymous
<br>That wouldn't work because the jester would vtl themselves. They want to be lynched, remember?
That’s why I’m saying it would be idiotic to lynch while a Jester is alive lmao.
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@Speedrace
<br>Jester won't win anyway, and therefore has no reason not to vote Mafia
They have no reason to vote with town either lol
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@Speedrace
And then you come up with some "out" that you can't say?
I can say and I just did. But now mafia knows.
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@Speedrace
@SirAnonymous
If they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.
Mafia kills a townie. It’ll be 2-1-1. 3 votes to lynch. Town needs support of Jester in which case Jester loses, hence mafia wins. Simple really.
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@Speedrace
I'm starting to suspect that YOU'RE the mafia.
No I’m a townie who thinks it’s stupidity to lynch while a Jester is alive
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@Speedrace
Do you think Mafia wants to win? Yes or no. If you think Mafia is ok with throwing, then go ahead, don't follow the plan. But if you think Mafia wants to win, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT. Literally the only way this doesn't go our way is if Mafia is ok with losing
I already told you, they have an out (I can’t disclose it).
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@Speedrace
Follow the plan. If Press ISN'T NKd, he MUST be Mafia
Dude you’re gambling so hard rn.
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@SirAnonymous
How can it be over? It hasn't been 36 hours since the DP started. It's only been 15. I think he had the date of the ending time wrong.
Whew we good then
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@SirAnonymous
I think we need to wait to see if it's possible to joint win with a jester. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
Jester wins when they’re lynched there’s, no joint win per win condition
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@Speedrace
@SirAnonymous
Shoot, I just realized the DP ended a couple of hours ago
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@Speedrace
Yes, that's why I said it's flawless unless they throw. If they throw then we lose to, but they lose as well. That's the risk, but I'm counting on Mafia wanting to win
It’s idiotic for town to lynch while a Jester is alive. Especially a confessed Jester
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