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@Vader
Youve been hammered bro, just confess. Speed came in so it’s obvious you’re scum
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@oromagi
I agree. I'm ready to lynch. I'm holding back because Disc asked me to. Does anybody buy Supa's claim?
I trust you bro, it’s a yes from me. Just be wary of Disc and Wylted in future DPs if you’re still alive.
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@oromagi
why withhold this critical info until now? You've been on the chopping block for some time.
It’s convenient. If we lynch him, the next Day Phase is skipped so we don’t have a chance to conduct our POE. He said that the night phase occur even though that’s blatantly false per the website you cited. All in all, he’s lying.
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@Wylted
@warren42
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
Yall notice how Supa conveniently marched in as soon as Warren confirmed his role lol? Hammer the crap out of him.
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@oromagi
Hammer Supa. If he’s lying then he’s scum, if he’s not, we still get 5 confirmed townies alive for another day.
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@warren42
Just a heads up, Disc and Wylted are the type of people I personally think willing to bus a GF with a cop still out there, so just keep that in mind for later DPs
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@Wylted
So we are just missing supa claim. Based on the NK target or lack there of. Lynching supa then water if there is another scum should win us the game
Why Water over F4?
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@warren42
Yeah I'm the other mason. Green olives (I think, I don't care really. Green or black, whatever club isn't.) Our PM has been pretty dead.Pie you underestimate my willingness to bus, but that's a conversation for another day.
I trust you to advise Club once we die. He’s gonna need some help if either Wylted or Disc are scum. Shouldn’t matter tho. 2 will be alive till the latest and they’ll likely be BMD and Club. But Club can be your proxy.
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@warren42
@oromagi
@Club
@bmdrocks21
I’d recommend lynching F4 tomorrow and Water the day after after tonight it’ll be 6/2 or 6/1. After tomorrow night it’s will be 4/2 or 4/1 with 3 townies being confirmed. Hence a clear majority and POE.
Stick to this plan and everything will be alright. Under no circumstances should anyone from BMD, Club, Warren, or Oro should be lynched.
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@oromagi
I don’t think Warren has it in him to willing bus a Godfather who is a great player. I say keep the town block to BMD, You, Club, and Warren and we win
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I’m probably dying at this point, so rip. Good Luck gentleman. Town Block should be BMD, Club, and his partner and we win.
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@Wylted
You've guessed it by now. I’m Cop. Cog/Oro is innocent. And I’m Cheese.
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@Wylted
I don't buy that BMD rocks would be targeted for an NK
I agree, this is bad.
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@WaterPhoenix
Supaoh and not claim vote sry typo go look in dp 1
True true my b.
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@WaterPhoenix
Who?He wasn't last to claim, far from it, in fact, he was one of the first to claim.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
We have three players advocating a mass claim. Have you claimed yet?
He claimed vanilla town DP1
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@WaterPhoenix
At the beginning of the last dp he was joking around which doesn't seem like a scummy thing to do and if it was something to make him seem more friendly he made it seem very natural he wasn't very active throughout the rest of the dp but did contribute to the speed race lynch which made him very anti-scum as if he was scum he'd was basically sacrificing speedrace. Also, if they had worked something out in scum chat about sacrificing speed then why did speed work so hard to defend himself till the very end when it would've just been easier to concede?
Joking around doesn’t indicate affiliation. And he was forced to vote Speed. Pretty sure he was the last one too (don’t quote me).
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@Wylted
You are correct. I’m either the doctor or the cop. I’ll wait till some claims one of them to reveal myself.Not only do we know that you are a power role like cop or doc but scum knows. So you might as well help facilitate the process and claim
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@Wylted
Doesn't matter if doc is easy pickings if it helps solve the game
So you’re saying a town block of 4 people? I’m fine with that if y’all are.
NP2: Doctor is killed and townie lynched
6-2 or 6-1 and 4/8 or 4/7 people are town confirmed including the Cop.
DP3: Lynch someone outside the 4
NP3: Cop is killed
4-2 or 4-1 and 3/6 or 3/5 people are town confirmed.
Town wins at this point due to Process of Elimination.
Only problem is is Mafia has a role that can mess with investigations like a Roleblocker or Bus Driver.
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@Wylted
I like the strategy of putting cop and doc also. I think we should mass claim. Not to much room for fake claims either with this subject. The game seems breakable
If Doc claims, they’ll likely die tonight.
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@warren42
Club, Partner, Cop, Doc, Doc target confirmed. If there's overlap oh well. Tonight we *could* have the cop check the doc just to guarantee it while the doc protects the cop. That's a core of five for D3 and we can POE from there.
I disagree. If doc claims then it’s easy pickings for scum to kill him assuming doc can’t self heal (I’m asking Mharman rn). I personally think Cop should investigate Club and then form a town block of Cop, Doctor, Club, Partner, and whoever cop investigated last night since they haven’t said anyone was guilty. That’s 5/10 players rn. Should be easy victory.
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@WaterPhoenix
You missed Cog. I will post my reads as soon as you account for Cog/Oro
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@warren42
So what are your thoughts on Supa? And idt you’ve answered my question yet.
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@warren42
No need to worry about that, he's totally mason
Are you claiming mason or do you just believe Club?
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@Wylted
If Mharman gave fake claims, I doubt speed would take it. Especially since he probably thought he would be town confirmed by the cop if he survived somehow
If anything him being GF makes me think he would use the fake claim to ensure he stays safe especially since he was about to be lynched. But ya I see your point.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I think we should pursue a full claim from Supa. Mafia clearly had a hard time finding a fake claim with the hot sauce. More of a chance for us to confirm him as Scum.
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@Vader
You are L-2 right now. We need reads from you at the very least.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I can't speak for the rest of town but he is not necessarily off the table for me just because of the mason claim. I just don't see his behavior as particularly scummy.
I agree. Club is an interesting person. Based on his play style he’s easily sheepable. But him claiming is something he’d just do. I think we should leave him alone till a Cop investigation which could create a 4 person town block or MYLO/LYLO.
If we reach a MyLo/LyLo situation (we might not at the rate we are going) then I would want his partner to step forward and for us to examine both of them closely since a 12 player game is likely to have 3 scum, just have to wait and see.
I think it should be a day before that situation. Gives us more time to analyze their posts in the previous DPs.
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@Wylted
Do you care to explain why if speed were to have flipped town that would make me scum ? https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2530/pizza-mafia-dp1?page=15&post_number=360
This makes me suspect Supa more.
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@Wylted
Do you still feel this way? https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2530/pizza-mafia-dp1?page=13&post_number=320
To an extent I do. But Warren was first to call out Speed. Unless this is a bussing tactic, which I’m skeptical of since Speed was the GF and a pretty good player. I’m more skeptical of Water tbh but, this Supa incidence is making me reconsider.
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@Wylted
Scum tend to not have many town reads for whatever reason and post 54 about there being a second scum is bothering me. I wonder if this means we are also facing some sort of third party.
If there is a third party it’s Club and his supposed buddy. Either way as I said earlier, Cop Can investigate him and see if he’s telling the truth to form a powerful townblock. Only way to prevent this is if scum kill the cop, but the odds are like 10-20 percent which is still pretty low.
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@Wylted
We have the option of the cop investigating Club to determine his credibility. If he’s telling the truth then there’s a solid confirmed town block of up to 4 people assuming the cop investigated someone inno last night.
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@Vader
You are L-2. I suggest you post your reads quickly.
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@Wylted
Also Pie get your shit together. I admitted I confused you for club for a minute
What’d I do tho lol
VTL Supa until he posts reads.
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@Vader
I'm null on everyone besides inactive. With the long NP i am led to assume that the second scum is inactive
That’s not how it works. Group the people and explain each position.
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@Vader
What you want to know?
What do you mean? I want reads of players. Group them into Scum, Lean Scum, Null, Lean Town, Town and explain why.
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@Wylted
Cop if I die and pie is scum he is basically confirmed town to a lot of these people. Please investigate him at some point
By all means, please do, I’m innocent
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I dont thik we can be 100% sure that we have a doc unless someone claims doc. There are several other potential explanations for the fact that there was no NK, for example there may be a bulletproof.
+1
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@Wylted
No where and what was it?
Thoughts about F4 not being active and him making an excuse for it like Speed did last DP.
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@Wylted
Cop should claim so doctor can play follow the cop and they should out their results
I disagree. We don’t know for sure if there is a protective role. Just that it’s likely. Plus it could be flavored.
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@Club
If I VTL'd Cogent why would I be a scum team with him. I am mason, and I would've tried to kill Pie anyway.
Explain please. Kill me?
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@oromagi
As soon as you get caught up I would like your reads please.
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@Wylted
@warren42
@Discipulus_Didicit
What are your thoughts on F4? He certainly isn’t acting like he was last game. And he cited an excuse for not being active like Speed did.
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