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VTL Press

This should be L-1 I think
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Aight I’m caught up, so read time

Town
Pie
Wylted - actively scumhunting with regards to characters and theme
Disc - mainly because of the scenario post explaining to Cog and trying to stop his own townreads from not lynching themselves

Lean Town
Supa - says he can get his role confirmed so I’m comfortbale keeping him alive
Club - says he has a PR that is non lethal 
Warren - scum hunting, but personally I don’t think he’s doing enough but nevertheless it’s something
Speed - says he can also get his role confirmed

Null
Greyparrot - he claims early every time but since he’s not a PR I don’t believe him as much. I’d like more reads from him to be confident to put him in a category
Mharman - inactivity

Lean Scum
Oro - he’s scum if and only if F4 is scum due to F4 knowing his role. 

Scum
Cog - he scumreads my top townreads and wants to give scum a free kill
F4 - this should be out lynch today due to his scum slip and Wylted’s research about Bsh’s Gayness


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@Greyparrot
Warren, Pie, Mhar 

scumteam.

Discuss.

Stop bullying me. Bullying is bad in 13ReasonsWhy
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@warren42
Btw Wylted is obvious town here

+1
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Dude, there's literally dozens of strategies, many unorthodox, you guys aren't even considering. 

The one thing I’ve learned while playing Online Mafia and that scum tend to be as simple as possible. It’s not an elaborate ploy - they’re very hard to do. It’s either a gamble like I did with Bomb two games ago or conservative. Of course it’s not true all the time. I’m just basing it off of my experience as playing scum
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Mime or Jester....but don't listen to me about VTNL'ing I guess.  

If that’s the case it’s bastard modding.
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@PressF4Respect
Either way, it is beneficial to town if I get lynched DP1.
Vote for me guys!

Unvote

VTL PressF4Respect

F4 and Cog have to be scum at this point. The similarities are just too great.
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@Cogent_Cognizer
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VTL Cogent_Cognizer

Let's lynch me guys, and see how it turns out. 
This screams scum to me

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@Cogent_Cognizer
So with that in mind.... who right now is trying the hardest at trying to figure out who townspeople are? See comments  219-222 of mine on page 9 for who I think it is, and be sure to read over how those players have been acting. 

So you believe that Wylted and Disc are scum?
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@Cogent_Cognizer
But, it is very obvious they are acting extremely desperate to find out who is town - no town member would be that desperate to the point of trying to convince so hard, on merely DP1, that a few people are town. Note the small group Wylted has claimed to be town thus far: about the same amount of people who would be scum.  

I would disagree, town should always be trying to find a block. It has two effect. One it’s a cohesive force for a lynch and two it leads to POE.
Wylted and Disc are my top townread rn and you are in leaning scum,
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@Club
I have a night action that is effectively harmless. 

UNVOTE
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Furthermore, I want to speak more about those scenarios. Mafia almost never ends up exactly like any of those scenarios. No smart group would continually Lynch or choose not to lynch in each DP. It's far too risky to do that. It's best to do a combination strategy that doesn't fit in either of those three scenarios you're oversimplifying Mafia to be about.  

Think of it this way, if we don’t lynch this early, scum get a free kill of their choosing, likely on someone everyone townread. As a result you’re back  to square one of still figuring out who to lynch. 
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@Cogent_Cognizer
That thread is years old, man. Actually, so is that debate you linked earlier. I have no reason to believe this is all true today. People change over time, particularly as they age and mature. BSH1 is probably no exception. I don't get why we are going after this frankly. It seems like grasping at straws. 

Also, this is one of the first times I've heard of the term "twink"(if I have before, I don't remember it very well), I get the impression this is derogatory and meant as an insult to gays. Is it?

Forget about what Wylted said. Are you not comfortable with lynching F4 after he literally admitted he knows Oro’s character?
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Sorry for a somewhat late response. But jeez, 7 pages already and it's only been like 3 hours of the dp. 

At any rate, I've read and analyzed some of the comments, but given this is DP1, I never see merit in lynching in the first-day phase. All we can go on is people's words. I require something more concrete than that, so I'm not going to change this, and my vote is a...

VTNL

So you don’t think F4 is scum based on his scumslip?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I thought we had a scum slip with F4 knowing oros character but I now believe I was mistaken. I will town read him for now, seems pretty obvious that you are town as well. Also town reading Greyparrot. Not sure what to think of Oro yet.

I would beg to differ. Oro is scum if and only if f4 is scum. The scum slip is too enormous to ignore. If he did know Oro’s character, why would he put it in code. If he was town he’d keep it hidden right?
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@PressF4Respect
How can I convince you I'm not scum?

Find scum if you’re not scum, and create a very compelling argument as to why, but at this point you’re my top scum read.
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@PressF4Respect

Dude just claim, no point in playing games 
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@Wylted
Can you just full claim everything. I want to quickly add you to the town pile so we can find scum

+1
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@Wylted
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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@PressF4Respect
Ohh. Soft claim in this case are about our characters, not the other person. My bad. In that case, this is my new soft claim:

Wait wtf how are you soft claiming someone else’s character. This is scum slip here. I’m not gonna vote rn for the fear of him being L-1 but this is a strong scum read as of now
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@oromagi
If you are doing this correctly we should lynch you immediately.

Care to explain to everyone?
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@Wylted
We can't keep doing this to club every game merely because he has an unorthodox thinking style. 
You mean stupidity?
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Aight folks sorry for the inactivity, I was binging the new season of 13ReasonsWhy. I’ll start reading the DP and will respond accordingly, so sorry if I ask you to do something when’ve you’ve already done so.
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@PressF4Respect
Help us pressure Club
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I’ll soft claim rn 

batch tentacle
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@oromagi
We should pressure Club - he’s the most useless

Unvote

VTL Club
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@PressF4Respect
F

VTL Speed cause he a Kalu
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@bsh1
Send PMs so I can go to sleep knowing if I will be a killer or not
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@oromagi
Fancy
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@bsh1
Pretty sure that’s everyone lol

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@Speedrace
He screwed up big time too lol. Worked out to the advantage of the enemy faction as always lol
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@Speedrace
Who’d you shoot N1 Speed

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@Speedrace
All part of the plan bro. FFA put us at an advantage lol
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@Speedrace
Yes lol, especially after you replied to my hypothetical and Cogs confessions 


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@Speedrace
lmao good shit, the others are idiots.

VTL Mharman
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@bsh1

If you think she's the most beatable of the main democratic options, you're miscalculating.

Lmao she’s a fraud and a socialist in terms of redistribution of wealth 
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@Imabench
Pedo Joe would be a disaster. People like him only cause he’s associated with Obama who hasn’t even endorsed him and told Joe that he doesn’t have to run.
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@Greyparrot
Which State you in Dawg
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@bsh1
I will probably be voting for Warren.

Please do. Imma register as a Dem just so I can vote her even tho I’m on the TrumpTrain
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@Cogent_Cognizer
A VTNL is really only appealing to yellow at this point, given they are ahead by one of every other team. 

The fact Club switched is unusual, and further reason to doubt Mharmon yellow team leader. 
It’s an equal opportunity for everyone in the NK. You can kill 2 of us but then you’d lose reliable allies.

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Support Voter ID folks. Single easiest way to help enforce one person one vote.
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Trump2020
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@Wylted
Standoff makes it fun. We don’t know who’s gonna die.

On a side note, if Club is Yellow Leader, I’m done.
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@Club
Are you yellow Team Leader?
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How about we VTNL and let it play out, it’ll be more fun that way. 

VTNL
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@Wylted

Mharman has to be Yellow Leader due to POE. Dude can’t shoot himself so he shot Oro (a red). Y’all as Blue also shot Oro as per our alliance. So Red must’ve shot Greyparrot. Mharman ain’t that stupid to not listen to his two teammates. If he wanted you dead, he would’ve shot you but that would’ve been stupid for us.

Wylted - Blue Goon
Pie - Yellow Goon
Warren - Yellow Goon
Greyparrot - Blue Goon
Oro - Red Leader or Red Goon

Mharman - likely Yellow Leader, if so he’s dumb


Speed - Unknown
Cognicent - Unknown
Club - Unknown

There are likely 2 Leaders out of these three especially if Mharman is Yellow Leader.


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@Wylted
Yellow team your job was to kill mharman. WTF?

Can’t do anything, Leader had the shot
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@Yellow Team Leader, shoot the crap out of Mharman tonight please.
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@Wylted
Better dead than red, all they had to do to stay in the game was not be pussies. 

Lolololol
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