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Ya we were thrilled when Wylted initially claimed Cop, but the character didn’t make sense. Thankfully when he claimed Beloved Princess, we executed and got 2 NKs cause Supa was Vanillaized and we luckily dodged JoeBob. Game could’ve gone either way
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@JoeBob
It was between you and Vader until I found out that if there was a redirector the game would’ve ended, which for some reason made me think you were town confirmed so I chose Vader
I had a feeling you were suspecting me, but we had no choice. I had to do the NK. Cause if WF did it and you shot him, I would’ve been 100% lynched. If you chose me, WF would still have a 33% chance to win it for us
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@Casey_Risk
We were sweating a little towards the end there cause of JoeBob’s role.
GGs
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@That2User
@Casey_Risk
I think it’s clear Owen is scum at this point
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Okay so Casey suspects Owen as well and we know for a fact that Casey is town. That2 is next best confirmed townie besides myself. Don’t we love solid town blocks
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@whiteflame
I honestly forgot about the Restless Spirit. I'm not sure if that means you're sussing Owen or you just did it to remind us that you're still around. Repeat the vote and unvote if it's the former.
I told them to vote and unvote who they sus. Way ahead of ya lol
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@Owen_T
And how is the previous game related to this one?
Behavior is the one thing that doesn’t change as much game to game. Changes in behavior indicate something is wrong. You knowing that Hated is SOP and not claiming it is not normal behavior.
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@Owen_T
What post did Barney claim hated? Has Barney been confirmed? I am currently confused and severely sleep deprived.
In a previous game. Not this game.
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@Owen_T
Why are you so certain I am scum. It's a little weird.
I’m not certain, rather confident cause of POE. That2 is town. I townread WF for his claim and his general hesitation to vote, though that’s a null tell ig. Still a gut feeling that he’s town. That leaves you, JoeBob, Supa. I have a 2/3 chance of choosing correctly. Supa’s SOP claim gives me hesitation of thinking he’s scum after rereading, so it’s you/JoeBob or you/WF. Either way, you’re scum. Your play doesn’t make sense as a townie. You were in the game where Barney claimed Hated. We had a clear discussion of how it would be bad if he lived too long, yet you ignored that here, and still haven’t explained why you did that. You behavior and role both lead me to believe you’re scum.
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@Casey_Risk
Completely forgot that you can still vote. Feel free to let us know who you are suspecting by Voting and Unvoting them
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@JoeBob
I find it weird that there is a vanilla(pie) and a scum that turns people into vanilla. Wouldn’t there just be one and not both?
Luna basically always includes a true vanilla in his games. Also, I was the last to claim, so I could’ve claimed anything I wanted to. There’s no reason for me to lie. Also, it doesn’t have to be one or the other. There’s nothing preventing a Vanilla and a Vanillaizer role from existing together.
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Ig in the meantime we can hunt for Owen’s scum partner. My guess would be JoeBob or Supa unless Whiteflame is lying about his role, which he could be. Times like these is where I wish I could read his behavior better.
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After rereading, I feel a little more comfortable with Supa compared to Owen. I think Owen’s play doesn’t make any sense this DP and he’s been generally avoidant of answering questions. I think it’s clear Owen is scum. Hopefully he’s a scum power role.
VTL Owen
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@Vader
He's my top read at the moment but I would strongly consider WF in the pile. I just feel like his Rock Paper Scissors role is way too much chance involved and if he is town, why didn't he SOP claim that
I didn’t SOP claim when I had that role. The fact that it’s chance involved makes him more likely to be town than scum. It’s basically a gladiator without everyone else voting on it. I had the role as town and used it pretty well imo. If you think he’s another role, then that’s different. But objectively with what he’s claimed, he should be town.
, OK, if I'm lynched we both will die unless we pick the same thing.
If you think he’s scum and telling the truth about his role, he would never pick you.
It also is such a neg town utility to it that I'm not sure why it wasn't SOP'd, especially if they pick the same and it hypothetically kills 2 town. I am frankily a bit sus
There’s a 66% chance only one townie dies assuming he and the person he chooses is town. Not really negative utility. I thought of this when I had it, trust me lol
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@Vader
I'm gonna disagree with you here. Scum team could easily be 2 Owen/WF not necessarily a trade off of JoeBob and I despite popular belief.
I just don’t see WF as scum right now over you/Owen. If you’re certain Owen is scum, then I would guess JoeBob is the partner and they’re working with fake claims Luna gave them. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense why Owen isn’t expanding on his PM justification
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@Vader
@That2User
@Owen_T
Here is my reads list from most town to scum
Pie
That2
Whiteflame
JoeBob
Owen/Supa
At this point I’m willing to lynch either Owen or Supa
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@That2User
I am tempted to say fuck it and vote whiteflame to potentially end this in a rock, paper, scissors duel. If wf is town and loses we lose, if wf is scum and wins we lose. If wf is scum and loses we survive, if wf is town and wins against scum we survive. If it's a tie and hits scum/town we're down to 3 town, 1 mafia. Mafia nks town leaving 2 town and 1 mafia DP3. It's a risky af play but wf is potentially mafia and his ability is an amazing deterrence in mylo.
Im actually going to have to disagree with this for two reasons.
1) Mechanically, if WF is telling the truth, he should be town because it doesn’t make sense to have a scum be able to avoid lynches. If you think he’s lying about his claim then it doesn’t matter, but his claim and justification check out + I’m confident GoT is in the game cause Luna loves it based on the character he selected in my game
2) If WF is scum + Owen is not his partner, there’s a 66% chance we lose the game cause even if both die, scum can hammer Owen with the sole vote they have.
If WF is scum, he’s going to challenge the most townie player, which is you, so it doesn’t give us that much information even if you live and he dies.
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@Vader
I am highly suspicious of Owen because of his role. Hated is generally an SOP role and I can see how a new player could use it as a way to not get town to lynch them. I am always skeptical of hated roles because it forces town to put you off to the side. I also don't like how we claimed it that late
I agree, it’s a good fake claim. I think a Owen/WF makes sense here if Hated is truly a fake claim cause WF is smart enough to be able to cover his partner with the claim.
Owen would be my top read but there isn't enough behaviorally to dissect
I scumread Owen and you personally. I don’t like how he hasn’t expanded that much on his justification. Just reiterating the same thing basically.
I think That2 is probably town because they are the only investigative role in the game and they essentially confirmed themselves.
I agree
JoeBob is in no way town confirmed at all. I think there should be some discussion because his role is pretty fishy and I am not as trustworthy with vigils. I think the role makes sense but the role gives me sus. There are also so many moments to choose from that it is not impossible to fake claim something in this game
This is also fair, buts if you’re scum, then he’s Town for sure. It just depends on who I believe more. Right now I’m leaning towards you or Owen as the lynch.
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@Vader
Most of this is going to be WIFOM but I'm considering because of how illogical it would be to purposefully make a mistake
It would be illogical to SOP claim Roleblocker as scum for sure, which is why I’m not 100% sold on you being scum.
So if I was looking to mislynch, why would I have just said, wow Ok Joebob is lying, and do a 1v1 trade off and force a JoeBob lynch versus make up some bullshit about me getting converted to a vanilla. I also just quick posted my results without checking anything them came back to see. Can't defend not seeing when it happened.
Well, in that scenario the only scum team possible would be JoeBob/That2 vs Supa/XXX from the perspective of other townies like me. I think you’d have a much harder time going after JoeBob, so you were kind of forced to make up the claim that you were turned into a Vanilla.
If it was MYLO I would be forcing a lynch on JoeBob and trying to convince you JoeBob/That2 are a team.
Well, it is MYLO, and I would consider a JoeBob/That2 team, but it doesn’t make sense cause That2 has claimed the only Town Investigative role.
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@Owen_T
It does not take effect at LYLO
Wym by this?
My explanation is just you are hated because the main character is hated by himself and others for most of the show.
That’s it? Nothing more?
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@That2User
How does the rock, paper, scissor thing work? Is it live and viewed by Luna?
Basically if WF is lynched, he chooses a player to challenge. They each submit either Rock, Paper, or Scissors via PM. If WF wins, he lives. If whoever he challenges wins, that person lives. If it’s a tie, they both die.
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@Owen_T
What do you want elaborated? I'm sorry but I don't have time to reword RN maybe a bit later.
The explanation in your PM and if your effect goes away at MYLO/LYLO
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@Vader
I mean town lose if they lynch and it's inherently a horrible lynch. I had no reason to SOP claim my char in DP1 and comment on it.
Well this is WIFOM, but I see your point.
In fact if I had no visit on JoeBob, shouldn't that indicate me that I am even more telling the truth?
Not really cause you may have sought a mislynch on him to win the game. You only mentioned how you were a vanilla after That2 corroborated JoeBob
Why would I make such a stupid gambit to claim someone I didn't RB in the NP.
Cause it’s MYLO
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Ya Supa has to be scum. Partner is JoeBob, Owen, or WF. Unless this is a bus, the team has to be Owen/Supa or WF/Supa.
That2 is town cause only investigative role
I am town
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@Vader
Ok I am going to apologize because I did not see some of my role I was sent. I got turned into a vanilla townie in NP1. I was getting ready for my zoom class and just checked to see if DP was posted and it had. Didn't check my DMs. That's my fault but I got turned into a vanilla in the NP. If anyone wants to confirm this
Hmm. Interesting.
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@That2User
"I watched Jane die." Making me the watcher, I fucked up thinking I watched who visited who, not who was visited. NP2 I watched whiteflame, NP3 I watched joebob, no one visited them
Okay great, you’re out investigative role. This heavily implicates Supa though cause he said he RB’d JoeBob
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@Vader
@JoeBob
NP1. I RB'd Owen_T. I chose him because he's relatively new and that if factor makes senseNP2. I RB'd JoeBob. I chose him because he seems to always be the question mark variable in my games.
JoeBob didn’t mention that he got roleblocked.
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@Owen_T
Also can u elaborate on your justification please
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@Owen_T
I'm going to throw my claim out now because I'll be gone untill evening.I am "Woah he was good the whole time" from the Tourist. As the main character hated themselves, I am the hated townie.
Couple of questions:
Why did you not SOP claim this? Weren’t you in the game when Barney was Hated and he claimed?
And second does the effect go away at MYLO/LYLO cause if it doesn’t then we cannot VTNL today.
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@whiteflame
I'm just going to out my role: I'm “You just had to get a confession.” from Game of Thrones, referencing the trial by combat that ended poorly for Tyrion Lannister and worse for Oberyn Martell. The role is listed as "Death Defier," though I remembered this one from one of Luna's previous games where it was called a "Lynch Defier", which I think was your role, Pie. It's kind of Gladiator triggered on lynch where I challenge someone else to rock-paper-scissors. If I win, they die. If they win, I die. If we tie, we both die.
Lol he used my role again. Claim and justification checks out.
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@JoeBob
I am “Dexter Finally Got Outplayed”, from the show, Dexter, of course.In season 4 of this show, Dexter meets a murderer who beats him to the punch. As always, he kills the bad guy. But he was too late. In the bathroom we see his dead wife in the bathtub, with his cry son next to it.His son was covered in his mother’s blood. Just like what happend to Dexter when HE was a kid.(poor kid)because of this trade of lives, I am the conditional vigilante. Each night I can target someone. If the person that I targeting is the one doing the NK, then I kill them. But since he was too late to save his wife, I am also too late to save the NK:(
This is an interesting role, but I can see it working. And based on your earlier comment, you targeted That2 and Me. It’s still possible either of us are scum cause the partner could have done the NK, but still works ig
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I am “After all that, you’re just going to resign?” and I am a Vanilla townie. It references the scene from House of Cards where Frank Underwood resigned the Presidency. I think the justification is pretty obvious but just to elaborate. After Frank resigns, he’s basically given up all his power. Thus I am vanilla town
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Okay finally. Meetings over, lunch started. Should be fun
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Activity will be limited today cause I have like 6 meetings back to back. I’ll check back in during lunch. I’ll paraphrase my Pm and have it ready when I come back. Just don’t have the time rn
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Also wtf happened DP1. How was Wylted lynched with 3 votes?
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@whiteflame
@That2User
@JoeBob
@Owen_T
Everyone needs to full claim since it’s MYLO
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@JoeBob
That2 and Pie are town in my eyes.
Explain. And full claim in the process
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I hate Wylted’s claim. I remember using Beloved Princess as a fake claim as scum. People did like Glenn, but they didn’t quit watching because of he died. It was because the writing got trash
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@WyIted
So I am Glenn from walking dead. If I am killed in the dp town loses the next dp. If I am NKed than town gets an extra dp and the night is skipped
That sounds like a Beloved Princess. What’s the justification?
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@WyIted
guys don't lynch me. That was a fake claim but I have a very good reason. Also nobody CC me if you are a cop
So you were fake claiming to be a Cop? That’s scummy af lol
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@WyIted
Ya you need to full claim. If you’re town, this should be easy and we can move on to JoeBob/Supa
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1. Casey
2. Earth
3. owenT
4. Wylted
5. iLikePie5
6. Whiteflame
7. That2user
8. Joebob
9. Vader - Bernard is a host (Westworld) - Compulsive RB
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I’ll give Supa the benefit of the doubt for now, but I hate his claim and he’s definitely in my scum pool for now. I think we can get claims from Wylted and/or JoeBob and make a decision
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@Vader
It's a justification about the moment then it talks about how when the moment happened when Bernard "freezed" Macie from doing any actions when he revealed himself to be the host. Bernard was originally the antagonist but the twist was he's actually the protagonist that can control past and future
Interesting. I don’t like this claim for a couple of reasons. First is the direct quote of “freezed.” This implies a Mafia Freezer, which is basically a roleblocker that roleblocks the target, but also it prevents any protective actions the following night. Second, there’s nothing that indicates Compulsion. If anything, it indicates choice with the “control” aspect.
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