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a racist chick with a big butt from a third rate country.
None of those things are true lol. I'm sure you're having a great time imagining I have a big butt, though.
Also, why do you keep responding to me yet not responding to me with the features of Dart? I can't respond to you because you've blocked me, but you keep responding to me. Just really weird.
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@Best.Korea
You repeated the words I said to you in your Benatar threadHow horrible!Now we know why woman should never be president of USA. They simply cant separate logic from their emotions.
I'm going to downgrade your trolling to a 1/10 now. It's way too obvious because you're still upset over the comments I made to you in the Benatar thread.
So much for not being able to separate logic from your emotions.
I could expand upon this and make it 5000 words, justifying every premise in detail, too.Please dont. You already ranted enough against black people. Move to asians now. Asians and Indians and muslims will replace you, you know.
That comment wasn't directed at you.
Mind your own business, incel.
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@Vegasgiants
I would need to see proof for that claim
This is also rich coming from someone who rattles off this with literally zero evidence: "The poor, urban, low intelligence, unemployed, and poorly educated also commit the most crimes".
Anyway, it's a big write-up that goes well beyond the scope of this thread. In super short paraphrasing, you can look at facts like (1) Rich Black kids are more likely to go to prison than poor White kids Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth | SpringerLink , (2) Blacks have lower IQ than most other racial groups (and IQ is mostly genetic), (3) Blacks have lower self-control than other racial groups A gradient of childhood self-control predicts health, wealth, and public safety (pnas.org) , (4) Blacks have higher testosterone (and higher testosterone is linked to aggression and crime) Racial variation in sex steroid hormone concentration in black and white men: a meta‐analysis (wiley.com) , (5) The MAO-A Gene (Warrior Gene -- linked to crime) and the different frequencies in which races express this gene https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/maoa-race-and-crime/, and (6) Blacks having higher Melanin/melanotropin than other races (and either melanotropin or melanin causes more aggression) RETRACTED: Do pigmentation and the melanocortin system modulate aggression and sexuality in humans as they do in other animals? - ScienceDirect .
I could expand upon this and make it 5000 words, justifying every premise in detail, too.
Income is likely the highest predictor
It's not, but it's your turn to show the "proof for that claim".
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@Best.Korea
Well, you sure seem angry at me for some reason.Also emotions =/= logic.Women often mistake those two.
You repeated the words I said to you in your Benatar thread, trying to use them against me. I am obviously living rent-free in your head. It's amusing those words upset you that much.
Too proud to admit it? Everyone can see it xD
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@Vegasgiants
The poor, urban, low intelligence, unemployed, and poorly educated also commit the most crimesYou just seem to focus on race for some reason
Race predicts crime better than all of those.
That's the reason :)
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@Best.Korea
What's the matter, Best.Korea? Are you upset that I slammed your arguments down in your Benatar thread, and you failed to do anything about it? Did you steam when you weren't able to offer any counterargument there, and I called that out in front of everyone? Did "I'll take that as a concession" get you so bent out of shape that you decided to come here to try and get under my skin, too?
I owned you in that thread and everyone saw it. You folded like a cheap suit and offered far less resistance than everyone expected of you. Absolutely pathetic.
Why don't you log off this site for a bit so that your bright red face can settle back to normal, loser?
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@Best.Korea
I thought you were gonna say something like reparations, so that you pay them compensation for the crimes your ancestors committed against them.
2/10 troll; trying too hard.
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@Greyparrot
Fanchick, come fan this.
Just like an obedient dog, he came to you.
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Right. When a 5 year old says 2+2=4, you can't agree with them or else you're appealing to authority, because they are not a mathematician.Unbelievable.
Yeah. That's how dumb you sound to me.
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I know, but I cleverly flipped your commentOf course, of course you did.
I'm glad you finally put your glasses on to see that, old man.
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@Best.Korea
CRISPRI will take that as a concession.
Then perhaps you need CRISPR, too.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Do you want voting privileges to judge on debates?There will be socio-cultural debates coming up in the next 2-3 weeks you might be interested in following.
I might have a quick read but I doubt I'll time to do a full vote. So, I don't really care if I have voting privileges.
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@Best.Korea
If helping blacks is relevant to you, then tell us how to help black people
CRISPR
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@Best.Korea
No, you do not get to kill your children by not giving birth to them.Pain doesnt matter. You have to live and your children have to live too.
You've dropped most contentions and haven't moved much past making bare assertions.
I'll take that as a concession.
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@Best.Korea
Yeah, helping black people is "irrelevant" to you.
I never said this at all. Either you struggle with reading comprehension or you're intentionally lying about what I said.
You are so cool with your relevant crime statistics.
Yeah the crime statistics are relevant to the thread, given that they're in the OP and support the OP's topic. That's how thread work.
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@Best.Korea
I don't think that either, lolOkay then, think of ways to help black people or stay silent.
This is a rather irrelevant tangent from the topic of this thread.
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@Best.Korea
Are you trying to make us hate black people?
No.
"More crime = all people bad".
I don't think that either, lol.
Black people are our friends and best we can do is to help them.
They can help themselves and us by not committing as much crime.
Society oppressed them for a long time.
Not nearly as much as you're implying.
Further oppression would be most horrible.
Pointing out differing rates in racial crime isn't "oppression" lol.
This is borderline a troll comment.
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@Savant
so many more crimes against Whites and HispanicsBlack people actually mostly commit crimes against other Black people, not Whites and Hispanics in particular. They commit more crimes in general, which you probably already know, and the causes for this are debated.
Are Black people committing 34 times more crimes than White people per capita? No (they're not even close to equaling total White crime rates, when they'd need to be multiple times higher than White's crime rates for your explanation to be justified): FBI — Table 43
Since they are not, they are committing more crimes against White people than should be accounted for by their increased overall crime rate.
I assume you will use this to support your conclusion that Black people are genetically wired to be more violent. But there are simply too many societal factors to control for all of them
The OP specifically talks about crime, not necessarily violence (but can include violence).
But anyway, which factors don't you think we can control for?
and there's no biological evidence that melanin causes violence in humans.
Firstly, there is actually evidence that either melanin or melanotropin (there's not enough evidence to say which) is partly responsible for aggression in humans (higher aggression = more likely to be violent). RETRACTED: Do pigmentation and the melanocortin system modulate aggression and sexuality in humans as they do in other animals? - ScienceDirect .
Secondly, melanin is merely one phenotypic trait of a racial group. Unless you believe that different groups evolving in different environments ended up precisely genetically the same (lol), there will be different genetic outcomes for different races of people, and one of those genetic outcomes includes proclivity to violence.
I'm more interested in hearing what you think is causing the discrepancy
Yeah I think different genetics has a lot of explanatory power here. The environment will have some kind of impact, but the genetics are accounting for a lot of the environmental impact anyway (it's a genetic mesh).
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@Savant
And we have. Most people know that crime rates vary by race. But I assume you want us to act on this information, or you wouldn't be making a post about it. Are you proposing we increase racial profiling? Bring back segregation? Develop a general disdain for black people? It's not clear what it is you want us to change based on these statistics, which is why people keep guessing at your conclusions.
Now I want people to ask and attempt to answer the question, "Why do Blacks commit so many more crimes against Whites and Hispanics?" (it's in the OP)
I want people to see the inequality of racial outcomes. I want people to see the extremely disproportionate Black-on-White crime rate versus the White-on-Black crime. I want people to ask why that is happening.
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@Savant
What is it you want people to do with this information?
Look at it.
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I didn’t know racists had a sense of humor,He does. He makes a complete mockery of the leftKaitlyn you dummy. I was referring to you as the racist.
I know, but I cleverly flipped your comment on you and you didn't even realize I was doing that.
Who was the dummy again?
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you are appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.No genius, appeal to authority is only a logical fallacy when one uses an expert of dubious credentials.
LOL xD
That's the first time I've laughed at your comment.
Sidewalker is still far in front, but this helps your cause for being the funniest troll.
When conservatives use a scientist’s opinion to refute climate change but the scientist they use isn’t a climate scientist then they are committing an appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Right. When a 5 year old says 2+2=4, you can't agree with them or else you're appealing to authority, because they are not a mathematician.
Hahahaha
Get it? You’ve been mansplained.
It must suck being laughed at by women in and out of the bedroom. I guess that's why you troll.
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@Bella3sp
All good. Not a big deal.
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@Bella3sp
TWS didn't attack me. Oromagi and FLRW did, neither of which I don't think are trolls (unlike Sidewalker and IWantRooseveltAgain).
I was writing my response to TWS before Oromagi posted, and actually predicted personal attacks in response to this thread, because there really isn't any wriggle room for libtards to combat this data.
I think it has been a pretty successful thread for me :)
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@TWS1405_2
we get it: you hate black people.Typical ignorant libtard response.OMG, your Klan robe sales are going to skyrocket!Typical ignorant libtard response.
Yep.
They can't address the data at all, so they resort to personal attacks.
It's as predictable as clockwork.
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@FLRW
OMG, your Klan robe sales are going to skyrocket!
More personal attacks, just as predicted.
You truly have no worthwhile counterargument to this data and I love it. I love crushing libtard narratives and watching them having nothing in response <3
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@oromagi
we get it: you hate black people.
Personal attack on cue, as always.
There's just no escaping the data and its conclusions: Black Americans commit crimes against White Americans far more than the inverse.
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@TWS1405_2
1,000% factually accurate.Yet it doesn’t fit the legacy media’s, the lefts, or race baiters like Shaun King (who is white) and Al Sharpton’s narrative.
Yes, it doesn't fit their narrative at all. That's why they have to use personal attacks against people whom dispel their narrative, like 'white supremacist' and 'racist', in order to silence and avoid the facts.
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When it comes to Black and White crimes, Blacks are 34.37 times more likely to commit a crime against Whites than the inverse (87.3 / 12.7 = 6.87 ; 6.87 x 5 = 34.37 -- the White population outnumbers the Black population 5 fold) FdJBO4yXkAARgZz (1200×749) (twimg.com) . This may be indicative of Black's racial hatred for White people, but certainly dispels the myth that Whites commit more crimes against Blacks than the inverse.
For context, Blacks are also far more likely to commit crimes against Hispanics, but not to the egregious extent they are against Whites FdJBR_KWAAM7qUB (1200×742) (twimg.com) , whilst Hispanics are more likely to commit crimes against Whites than the inverse, but even close to being as much as Blacks are to Whites and Hispanics FdJBQFNXoAMA7n0 (1200×744) (twimg.com) .
Data to make graphs found here: Criminal Victimization, 2021 (ojp.gov)
Why do Blacks commit so many more crimes against Whites and Hispanics?
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@Best.Korea
Professor Benatar has argued that life isn't intrinsically valuable.Life is valuable.
You haven't proven this at all.
He's given analogies, philosophical framework and used axioms to reach this conclusion.His conclusion is based on premise that reducing pain is more important than increasing life. This premise is just his opinion. No one has to agree with such premise.
He's also argued that humans naturally agree with him on this. You should read his book on this, if you're interested in his argument, because he goes into some detail.
Simply stating 'it is valuable' isn't a sufficient counter-argument.Wrong. Simply stating "pain is the worst thing on Earth" is not even an argument, but an opinion. Therefore, when your premise is an opinion, I dont even need to refute it in order to disagree with it.
He hasn't argued "pain is the worst thing on Earth", but he has argued that, 'pain, per unit, is more emotionally impactful than pleasure'.
You're really not contending with what his argument is.
Do you not understand how we can discover truths by using extreme hypotheticals?Doesnt change the fact that his "extreme hypotheticals" dont happen in reality.It's like asking people 'what do you think people would do if they were given $1,000,000?'Would do if X happens =/= X actually happens
Are you one of those people who aren't able to comprehend abstract hypotheticals? Sure seems like it.
Mindblowing.
He's using this hypothetical to undercover an underlying axiom about human nature: that we negatively value pain far more than we positively value pleasure.Doesnt change the fact that amount of pain and pleasure isnt the same.
Okay, if you want to argue that we have more instances of pleasure than pain in life, make that argument then.
Benatar argues that by default, we experience pain, thus there are inherently more instances of pain than pleasure in life. You'll need to contend with that argument, too.
You can then compound the impact of this axiom by realizing that we're born into suffering but pleasure isn't guaranteed""Pleasure isnt guaranteed" + "born into suffering" + "not getting 1 amount of pain > getting 1 amount of pleasure" = Life is bad."This "=" is your value. Not mine. Therefore, when we remove "=" from this and replace it with "=/=", it follows that there is no conclusion to tell us that life is bad.Truth is that we are born into suffering. Truth is that pleasure isnt guaranteed, but happens often. Truth is that life in itself is a good thing. I would rather be alive and in pain than not be alive and not be in pain. If you think your life is so horrible that you think its better you werent born, well then it sucks to be you.
Humans naturally agree that pain is bad, hence why we seek to avoid it. If life has more pain than pleasure, then it follows that life should be avoided.
Randomly asserting "life in itself is a good thing" isn't proven nor does it counteract Benatar's argument.
So, we have all that against your guess of 10000:1 based on nothing.I have 7 billion people that literally disagree with you. If you have to teach them that their pain is so bad, then that already means it isnt.I agree that reducing pain is good, but not at the expense of life.
People naturally agree that pain is bad lol.
The issue is that once life starts, ending it is also difficult. Benatar does not argue in favor of suicide, but rather preventing life from occurring in the first place (i.e. antinatalism).
Also, humans have a will to live, even if it's at the expense of themselves (i.e. they suffer greatly). Just because someone doesn't kill themselves, that does not meant they're living a worthwhile, enjoyable life.
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@Best.Korea
The goal is to have people work. UBI shouldnt make people refuse to work. If it does, then it sucks.
Yes, the data supports this conclusion.
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@Double_R
We discussed as to why suicide rates for transgender people were so high, you gave the alternative explanation of "victimization". You didn't give any data/evidence/studies to back this claimThat’s because the claim came from your own studies. You know this, I even quoted the passage.
You're only referencing one of my studies, not multiple.
My study doesn't conclude that victimization is the reason transgender people commit suicide/have suicidal thoughts. My study shows that it's a minority of transgender people who are affected by victimization.
You just haven't proven your claim.
We're both making positive cases that have burden of proof. I'm arguing that transgenderism is a mental illness. You're arguing that we should respect their gender identityAgreed, and this is the whole problem here. What I’m arguing for is a matter of common sense and basic human decency, so asking me to provide studies to prove my point is absurd. I can’t “prove” to you that people benefit from compassion. If you haven’t figured that out yet you have very serious issues and there’s really nothing left for me to argue about you with on that nor would I really care to.You on the other hand, are arguing for a medical classification for something the medical community doesn’t accept should be classified as you believe. That comes with a very steep burden, so putting yourself on some high horse because you provided studies and I didn’t is ridiculous.
Firstly, "common sense" is a tautology that I've already called out in this discussion. It's a completely invalid form of proof because it begs the question. "Basic human decency" is also a tautology because we are arguing as to what should be considered basic human decency -- you can't insert your conclusion as a premise for your argument as well.
Secondly, you need to give reasons as to why we should respect their gender identity. That's the burden of proof you need to fulfil, elsewise you haven't proven there are good reasons to respect their gender identity. Meanwhile, I'm arguing that giving into people's mental disorders leads to bad outcomes. I'm actively arguing that it's not a good idea to "respect their gender identity" because it leads to bad outcomes.
Thirdly, you haven't shown any medical consensus on this at all, and even if you did, that wouldn't make the argument correct. Veracity of arguments comes independent of the authorities claiming it is correct. Otherwise, you are appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.
It's the dozen-odd studies combined that make the case, not individual studies analyzed in isolation.100 invalid arguments doesn’t add up to one valid point.
You haven't shown my arguments are invalid at all.
The numbers from the can simply be looked at and we can draw numerical conclusions from that.Numerical data is only as useful as the controls and methods used to obtain it. Once again, not one of your studies were even set up to explore the question of whether transgenderism is a mental illness, so no controls were put in place capture any data that would confirm or deny that hypothesis.
It's a super simple observation and conclusion:
Does roughly a quarter = 100% or a majority?
No, it does not.
Your overcomplication is nonsense.
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Sidewalker is a much funnier troll than you.I didn’t know racists had a sense of humor,
He does. He makes a complete mockery of the left.
You simply try too hard to be funny.
Pretty cringe.
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@oromagi
- Look at the history of Republican child sex abuse vs Democrats. It is not even close.
- Donald Trump
- Let's recall the only time Trump turned on one of his congressman was Madison Cawthorne when he let it slip that the Republican Party was a bunch of 70 years old doing coke and inviting yound men to orgies.
- Mark Foley
- Dennis Hastert
- Matt Gaetz
- Jim Jordan
- Larry Craig
- Roy Moore
- Howard Scott Heldreth
- David Swartz
- Mark Pazuhanich
- Nicholas Morency
- Edison Misla Aldarondo
- Philip Giordani
- Tom Shortridge
- Strom Thurmond
- Peter Dibble
- Donald "Buz" Lukens
- Richard A. Delgaudio
- Mark A. Grethen
- Randal David Ankeney
- Dan Crane
- Jeffrey Patti
- Marty Glickman
- Howard L. Brooks
- Stephen White
- Jon Matthews
- Earl "Butch" Kimmerling
- Paul Ingram
- Kevin Coan
- Andrew Buhr
- John Allen Burt
- Keola Childs
- John Butler
- Richard Gardner
- Jack W. Gardner
- Merrill Robert Barter
- Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr.
- Parker J. Bena
- Larry Jack Schwarz
- Robin Vanderwall
- Mark Harris
- Jon Grunseth
- Nicholas Elizondo
- Richard A. Dasen Sr
- Ralph Shortey
- Tim Nolan
- etc.
- Objectively and as a matter of history, Conservatives have ALWAYS fucked way more kids than Liberals. In the modern age, this is more easy to explain since there are way more women on the Liberal side and way less religion. Religious institution have always been the number one fucker of children and thier prevalance in Conservative politics certainly helps to explain the unbalanced, over-representation of conservatives in child sex abuse.
- 90% of child sex abuse is in the family- fathers, brothers, then uncles, cousins. Family men are the overwhelming perpertrators of this crime. Most drag queens are not family men. If you had to choose quick whether to leave child alone with a drag queen or straight (not that straight men can't be drag queens, right Rudy?) male, statistically the child is more likely to be safe with the drag queen.
You're taking a very strange and extensive interest in child sex abuse...
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What’s my dog doing here?
Sidewalker is a much funnier troll than you.
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@ILikePie5
He’s just flirting with you. Can’t get the stuff irl
Mhm yeah.
Pretty embarrassing that he's caught feelings for me, and then starts talking about masturbation and big butts. Maybe it's projection on his part, too.
But who can blame him for catching feelings for me <3
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@Sidewalker
They want a war, we'll give them a fucking war,War? xD What are you going to do? Write mean words again? You're completely harmless! I can say whatever I want to you and you won't do anything more than call me a name or two.LOL, it's amazing just how stupid you lowlifes are, I'm not talking about your inane blathering on line, I'm talking about the real world where you occupy the lowest rung of the societal ladder, out there where you guys want a culture war that like with everything else, you will be losers.
Sorry, but what war are you waging exactly? You're not in the least bit threatening. Your ranks are full of degenerates and weirdos. Barely anyone wants to culture you offer. You are all genetic mistakes that belong in a circus hahaha
You're not a real man at all.Maybe I'm not as manly as you, but then again, who is?
So, now a woman isn't allowed to embrace some degree of masculinity? That sounds like gender roles which belong in the 1950s, something your kind rejects outright.
You're a walking contradiction xD
You're a commonplace internet troll who is good for a laugh and nothing more.You're a commonplace white supremacist, desperate to be taken seriously outside the trailer park, and that's pathetic, even for a loser white supremacist.
I live in a house. You live in mental illness.
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@Sidewalker
They want a war, we'll give them a fucking war,
War? xD What are you going to do? Write mean words again? You're completely harmless! I can say whatever I want to you and you won't do anything more than call me a name or two.
You're not a real man at all. You're a commonplace internet troll who is good to laugh at and nothing more.
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@Greyparrot
You can't explain anything to him and expect him to read it. He's here to troll. He's here to write inflammatory responses that derail conversations. You taking him seriously means he wins. You have to laugh at him or ignore him.
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@Greyparrot
The surgical trans craze should terrify most gay people. Up to 80 percent of young children diagnosed as trans are simply normal gay people.This is the same sort of quack science we just went through with masks and vaccines.
Yes, and those kids who are misdiagnosed simply lose those transgender feelings "spontaneously" (eventually) US psychiatrist says transgender is ‘mental disorder’ and sex change biologically impossible | AFRICA CHINA ECONOMY (africachinapresscentre.org) . After all, transgender people are really just mentally ill gay people, and trying to diagnose children with mental illness is very risky business that a lot of people are clearly getting wrong.
You can add to this that suicide rates for transgender teenagers actually *increases* post-operation FgnQ3hYWYAAUYE6 (929×464) (twimg.com) taken from Mental Healthcare Utilization of Transgender Youth Before and After Affirming Treatment - PubMed (nih.gov)
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I don't currently know. I haven't done as much research on it.That’s like saying you don’t know if smoking cigarettes is bad for your health because you haven’t done much research on it.
So, you think homosexuality is obviously a mental illness?
I don't see why it's obvious.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Their logic is, if a transgender woman, doesn't want to be called a man, we should respect that, but if a strait person doesn't want to be called cisgender, then that is a form of homophobia, or transphobia.
That's actually a good point. I already knew that the libtards had many contradictions in their arguments, but I didn't think about that one before.
This is where I have come to realize that the LGBTQ+ community not only has stopped promoting equality for all, but have started promoting in the changing of definitions, labels, and perceptions of reality. They claim, "our definitions are right and anyone who says otherwise are the crazy ones, because they are the ones who are not accepting reality for what it really is."
Not only will they call you crazy, but there's a good chance they'll try to prevent you from speaking and/or attack you. These people are more violent, hateful and intolerant than even Muslims: Violence threatens freedom of speech on college campuses (debateart.com)
You can even look at Oromagi spazzing and cussing you out above in the comments.
Unhinged.
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@zedvictor4
Witchcraft is just another coping strategy.
That's exactly what the study concluded. It's a coping strategy for relatively chaotic and unadvanced societies to deal things outside their control/beyond their comprehension.
I actually agree with you for once lol.
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@ILikePie5
The expert on masturbation has spoken.Lmaoooooo.Welcome to the site!
Thanks, but my welcome from this Roosevelt guy was the warmest. There's no bigger a welcome than a guy at least twice your age talking about your butt and fun time toys he insists you have.
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It's not actually big. I'm on the thinner end of my healthy weight range.It’s bigger than you think.
Sounds like the expert on masturbation is putting his expertise to good use.
Just like you are older than you think.
How old am I?
Like the song says - “it’s hard out there for a bitch”
I'm sure it's hard for you, too, based on all your talk about my butt and toys I apparently have.
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but can any of you right wingers give an example of left wing extremism?
The trolls are becoming funny xD
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@Tradesecret
Wow! That's a serious problem. But pretty hard to force as a general rule. I imagine it will be used selectively.
Yes, I agree. Catching every single instance of "hate speech" is going to be a monumental task for social medias, so the law is probably only going to be enforced when the "hate speech" gets bad enough (i.e. when speech the government officials don't agree with becomes too loud).
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No, I'm not talking about Feminism.
One of the great knowledges the West has forgotten is witchcraft. The trails of Salem are unfortunately a long-forgotten rite-of-passage of the past in places like America and England, but fortunately, the torch has been handed to many bright places, particularly South America and Africa: FjdOvsKWIAEWhLp (1105×569) (twimg.com) . Those places in particular help to make the 40% of the 140,000 polled who still (rightly) believe in witchcraft. Tunisia was the most based country with 90% of its respondents saying that they believe Hermione Granger is real. Sweden was again most cucked with only 9% realizing that their hair was knotted in the morning due to a hex casted earlier on them.
Belief in witchcraft was also found to bring many societal benefits such as: "disrupted social relations, high levels of anxiety, pessimistic worldview, lack of entrepreneurial culture and innovative activity." Seeing this, it's no wonder witchcraft is believed in droves in places like Africa and South America, both of which are thriving economically.
The next time you see some wind moving around really fast and ripping up the street, don't think it's a cyclone, think back to knowledge lost in our Western countries and realize that it's the supernatural world sending you a sign: a stop sign.
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