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Texas politicians are morons who made it legal for people to open carry and drive with a loaded gun
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@IwantRooseveltagain
A man is dead and another is going to jail until he is old and bald because the geniuses in the Texas State House said “hey, we need as many guns in public as we can get” and if you feel threatened by someone, you can shoot them.

And now two stupid rednecks have had their lives ruined.
It never ceases to amaze me how brainlets think that a couple sentences of anecdotal evidence, totally bereft of citation, is an acceptable argument.

Amazing.
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@Double_R
The fact that you are unable to wrap your head around basing gender off of anything but biological sex
That is the only sensible way to determine gender, otherwise it becomes a 'be-whatever-you-feel-like' fantasy that isn't underpinned with biological reality.

Gender throughout relatively recent human history has been associated largely around certain observable traits we consider to be feminine. They include the way one dresses, carries themselves, appears, and the responsibilities they assume. None of this has anything to do with ones genitals or chromosomes because those are not things we see on the outside in any normal setting.
The whole notion of "feminine" is a conscious extrapolation of the biological female, of which there are attempts to align female biology with usefulness in the real world. The notion didn't exist until there were biological females -- that's the necessary precedent. Otherwise, you're implying that people randomly came up with the idea of feminine, that feminine tasks had no underpinning in female behavior or desires -- a profoundly unlikely suggestion.

So, "feminine" has EVERYTHING to do with "one's genitals and chromosomes" (in order words: biological sex), because that is how what is feminine is attempted to be determined in the first place.

But it's worse because you are also just factually wrong about the idea that there are only two sexes in any objective sense. There are plenty of real world examples of people born who do not fit neatly into one of your two boxes. I'm not going to explain it to you because it has been explained to you multiple times already. If you suddenly become interested in reality Google "intersex".
These are biological aberrations which do not constitute the necessity for a kaleidoscope of "genders". Besides, the rate at which people don't fit into either category immediately at birth seems to range from 1 in 1667 How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North America (isna.org) to 1 in 4500 When a Person Is Neither XX nor XY: A Q&A with Geneticist Eric Vilain - Scientific American , and those numbers are reduced to virtually zero with other methods of determining biological sex (of which have 100% accuracy) [Children born with ambiguous genitalia] - PubMed (nih.gov) . 

In other words, people (at birth) not fitting into either the XX or XY category are quite low, and people can be placed into XX or XY after birth with various behavioural observations.
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@oromagi
  • It’s easy to see sexual dimorphisms and conclude that the brain is binary; easy, but wrong. Thanks to the participation of trans people in research, we have expanded our understanding of how brain structure, sex and gender interact. For some properties like brain volume and connectivity, trans people possessed values in between those typical of cisgender males and females, both before and after transitioning. Another study found that for certain brain regions, trans individuals appeared similar to cis-individuals with the same gender identity. In that same study, researchers found specific areas of the brain where trans people seemed closer to those with the same assigned sex at birth. Other researchers discovered that trans people have unique structural differences from cis-individuals.
I mostly agree with this. Transgender brains are functionally different from normal people, and that's because they have a mental illness. 

  • As if the brain and body weren’t complicated enough, another biological factor influences the expression of biological sex in an individual: hormones. Anyone who has gone through puberty has felt the power of hormones firsthand. But like all things biology, hormones cannot be limited to the pubescent idea of “estrogen = female and testosterone = male.”
I don't think most people are seriously making the argument "estrogen = female; testosterone = male". If they are, it's not correct.

But it's clearly true that females and males have differing levels of both chemicals.

I've already addressed hormonal differences above (under the appropriate heading).

  • And while testosterone exhibits the largest difference between adult males and females, heritability studies have found that genetics (X vs. Y) only explains about 56 percent of an individual’s testosterone, suggesting many other influences on hormones. Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.
No one is arguing that testosterone levels are the only indication of biological sex. No one is arguing that sex hormones are precisely the same throughout a person's life, either. Sexual differences are an amalgamation of brain structure, chemical, physiological, behavioral etc. differences which allows us to conclude that there are real biological differences between males and females. 
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@oromagi
  • TRUTH#1:  Transgenderism is not an ideology, it is not a poltical point of view.  Not all transgender people  even view transgenderism as healthy or normal.  You commit the basic fallacy of overgeneralization by assuming that all people who share one psychological trait must also share one political point of view. 
The notion that transgenderism is a valid concept *is* an ideology (or at least part of an ideology). Your assertion that it is true, much as any religious person asserts their God/gods are real, is ideological by nature.

  • Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.
This XX-XY paradigm is accurate for the overwhelming majority of humans on the planet.  Biological sex can be determined from the 1st day of birth (before any socialization can occur) Biological sex affects the neurobiology of autism - PubMed (nih.gov) . The rate at which people don't fit into either category immediately at birth seems to range from 1 in 1667 How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North America (isna.org) to 1 in 4500 When a Person Is Neither XX nor XY: A Q&A with Geneticist Eric Vilain - Scientific American , and those numbers are reduced to virtually zero with other methods of determining biological sex (of which have 100% accuracy) [Children born with ambiguous genitalia] - PubMed (nih.gov) .

  • And there’s more! While brief and coordinated SRY-activation initiates the process of male-sex differentiation, genes like DMRT1 and FOXL2 maintain certain sexual characteristics during adulthood. If these genes stop functioning, gonads can change and exhibit characteristics of the opposite sex. Without these players constantly active, certain components of your biological sex can change.
Yes, the genetic makeup of your biology can change that way, but this isn't a case for transgenderism. You don't become the opposite biological sex due to activation/de-activation of a couple genes. Women don't become men when they reach menopause. Men don't become women when they take too many steroids and cause their testicles to drastically reduce/halt semen production.

  • When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain. In other words, there is no such thing as “the male brain” or “the female brain.” This is not to say that there are no observable differences. Certain brain characteristics can be sexually dimorphic: observable average differences across males and females. But like biological sex, pointing to “brain sex” as the explanation for these differences is wrong and hinders scientific research.
Embedded within this paragraph is a concession that contradicts the argument: "observable average differences across males and females". That's precisely what you would find if there were biological differences between men and women.

It is unnecessary to demonstrate that every human male has exactly the same brain, and every human female has exactly the same brain, in order to conclude that there are male and female brains.

  • Let’s just take the most famous example of sexual dimorphism in the brain: the sexually dimorphic nucleus of the preoptic area (sdnPOA). This tiny brain area with a disproportionately sized name is slightly larger in males than in females. But it’s unclear if that size difference indicates distinctly wired sdnPOAs in males versus females, or if—as with the bipotential primordium—the same wiring is functionally weighted toward opposite ends of a spectrum. Throw in the observation that the sdnPOA in gay men is closer to that of straight females than straight males, and the idea of “the male brain” falls apart.
  • Trying to link sex, sex chromosomes and sexual dimorphism is also useless for understanding other brain properties. The hormone vasopressin is dimorphic but is linked to both behavioral differences and similarities across sex. Simply put, the idea of a sexual binary isn’t scientifically useful, and nowhere is this more obvious than in the brain. It also happens that transgender people have the brains to prove it.
"Gay men" are biologically distinct from straight men, so it should be expected that particular parts of their biology would differ from straight men's. Agreeing with this does not refute the notion of male and female brains.

Furthermore, as you alluded to in your above quoted paragraph, there are "observable average differences across males and females", and this very much applies to the brain.

Using neuroimaging, multiple sex differences were found:

(1) For all structures of the brain, male volumes were greater than females
(2) The grey/white matter ratio was consistently higher across structures in women and men


Malebrains during development are structured to facilitate within-lobeand within-hemisphere connectivity, with networks that aretransitive, modular, and discrete, whereas female brains have greaterinterhemispheric connectivity and greater cross-hemisphericparticipation. This neuro-connective difference can be displayed visually as such: pnas.1316909110fig02.jpeg (745×1280) .  Besides this empirical evidence for female-male differences, there are also the resulting differences in abilities that the female-male brain paradigm provides predictive validity for: Males having better motor and spatial abilities, proclivity towards physical aggression, males having larger crania and a higher percentage of white matter (relative to crania size); females have superior memory and social cognition skills, and enhanced verbally mediated memories Sex differences in the structural connectome of the human brain | PNAS


Again, for another study that tested for cognitive ability, performance was sexually modulated and most sex differences were apparent by early adolescence (i.e. when the hormones started to kick in):

" Malesare more variable on most measures of quantitative and visuospatialability, which necessarily results in more males at both high- andlow-ability extremes. Females tend to excel in verbal abilities, withlarge differences between females and males found when assessmentsinclude writing samples. High-level achievement in science and mathrequires the ability to communicate effectively and comprehendabstract ideas, so the female advantage in writing should be helpfulin all academic domains. Malesoutperform females on most measures of visuospatial abilities, whichhave been implicated as contributing to sex differences onstandardized exams in mathematics and science."



There's just so much literature to support the notion of the female-male brain paradigm. There are further documented empirical, sex-based differences in:

You could also explore the chemical, hormonal, emotion processing and more functional differences between female and male brains:

Chemicaldifferences

  • The male brain secretes less serotonin than the female, which makes males more impulsive in general
  • Oxytocin is found more readily in females, meaning that they are more capable of quick, immediate empathetic responses
Hormonaldifferences

  • Females are dominated by estrogen and progesterone (bonding and growth hormone), males testosterone (growth, sex-drive and aggression)
  • Males receive five to seven spikes/surges of testosterone an hour. These induce a call for action, a change in mood and sometimes erections
  • Female testosterone spikes happen about twice a day, often in the late afternoon or evening
  • Female estrogen and progesterone rise and dive with mood swings.
  • When female estrogen is high, females score better on both standardized and in-class tests. Males, when testosterone is high, do better in spatial tests but poorer in verbalization ones
Functionaldifferences

  • The resting female brain is as active as the activated male brain
  • Females tend to have trouble sleeping and will often sleep-talk
  • Male brains tend to pause after tasks
  • Females have better memory and sensory intake
  • Males see better than females in bright light
Differencesin processing emotion

  • Females process emotions in a more complete fashion than males do
  • Males, in aggression and withdrawal, short-circuit intellectual and academic learning (emotive responses take longer and involve less reasoning)

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why slavery is good
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@Vici
THIS IS NOT MY ARGUMENT. THIS IS NOT. I READ THIS FROM THIS GUY NAMED RICHARD SPENCER. I AM BLACK (hence me having the n word pass) AND HATED SLAVERY. 

the argument is like this. if the europeans didn't come and swoop into the land of the indigenous, the indigenous would still be in their primitive lives without medicine, security of housing, nutritious food etc. but since the european boys came, even tho they enslaved some of them, OVER ALL, we can see that black people live better lives than they did 500. years ago. 

DONT CANCEL ME, IM JUST A PUPPET FOR RICHARD SPENCER. IM JUST SAYING HIS ARGUMENT. IM NOT A RIGHT WINGER, I VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS  
Firstly, I'm not sure Richard Spencer ever said this (wouldn't mind a link).

Secondly, Richard Spencer has rebranded as a far more moderate Christian, and thus wouldn't even agree with this statement anyway (if he did say it).

Thirdly, there are great moral/ethical issues with slavery (i.e. the concept of owning someone without their consent). Even if they ended up better than they would have been in Africa (which has been argued before on this site United States slaves were, overall, treated quite well (debateart.com) ), that wouldn't necessarily excuse it ethically/morally.

Lastly, this line of 'white savior' reasoning has been disastrous for White countries. White nationalists, who actually think about the consequences of slavery, will quickly realize that slavery has flooded their countries with different human races, and hence slowly but surely undermined White nations with different racial interests. Hence, slavery was bad for the host White nations.


There's no reason for anyone to agree that slavery was a good thing, and even if the slaves were materially better off, that came at the cost of some seriously questionable ethical/moral decisions.
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Do grades determine your intelligence?
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@iloveshin
if you take intelligence as a term by itself it is very vast because there are many types of inteligence, emotional logical musical...
If a type of intelligence isn't g-loaded then it isn't a real type of intelligence. I haven't seen a replicatable, g-loaded study that tested purely for 'musical' or 'emotional' intelligence. 

You need to prove that these types are g-loaded and can be tested for, before you start asserting that they exist.

so no if you concider that grades determine your intelligence overall that would  be simply incorrect.
however if we are talking about logical, mathematical intelligence it is correct because for example :
someone who has a good logic will do great in a math exam and would get a good grade 
on the other side someone who doesn't have good logic or a good understanding of mathemathical facts would get a bad grade 
it does not mean you are dumb it just means that you are lacking of logic
Your ability to learn 'logic', particularly at the more complex levels, will correlate heavily with I.Q. (a proxy for intelligence). If other confounding variables are controlled for (i.e. well-restedness, nutrious diet, effort etc.) and you're still receiving poor grades, then perhaps your lack of intelligence is letting you down.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Well there are many reasons I find it concerning. 
The idea of transgenderism is that a man can become a woman, and vice versa. This idea in of by itself breaks down social norms. Now I don't know about you l, but I like society the way it is. We have been thriving with our social norms for a while now and it has been good. If someone is to suddenly present something like transgenderism which would break social norms, then I want at least an explanation as to why it will benefit society better and why we need it. If no explanation is provided then I am going to assume using human nature as evidence that it is simply for self pleasure and desires, which is not always good and I am obviously going to question that. 
Social norms are important but SJWs and shitlibs are going to argue that we need to adjust to the new 'scientific' understanding that 'transgenderism is real' due to science™. You're also going to get hit with the whole 'transphobia' line of argument, wherein people argue you have irrational fear of the conclusions science™ came to: transgenderism is real.

I find it's more effective to argue that transgenderism is a mental illness. That way, you'll still:

(1) Have grounds for compassions to suit your (and other's) Christian faith

(2) Avoid the 'transphobia' line of argument

(3) Agree that transgenderism has some biological merit, but only in the sense of schizophrenia/bipolar disorder/another mental illness, rather than a valid lifestyle choice or natural urge that should be enabled
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