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Do not exchange knowledge of reality for knowledge of words
By the 5 senses. The reality expressed is the reality given and asserted. If you ask 1000 people the same question in usage of 5 senses and they give roughly the same answer. Ie buildings are taller than people. Water needed for survival, trees often having leaves or needles, etc. 
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Do not exchange knowledge of reality for knowledge of words
Yes, as can everyone else. 
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Could 5g towers be the covid 19?
Title. 

Discuss

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Do not exchange knowledge of reality for knowledge of words
As they actually exist.
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Manipulation of the Constitution: Freedom of religion and speech.
Reminds me of a saying i heard. "Locks arent meant to keep out dishonest people, but to keep honest people honest"  same concept with guns.
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I may singlehandedly break y'all of depending on wikipedia
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@zedvictor4
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Do not exchange knowledge of reality for knowledge of words
Reality the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

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If Not God Then Who?
 (What is kjv onlyism?) https://youtu.be/-sVrqxCr7S4

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If Not God Then Who?
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@BrotherDThomas
Ah! Another assertion. You say the kjv is the closest thing to the actual interpretation?
Since the English King James Bible is the closet to the inspired word of Yahweh/Jesus that is available to all, then when it states that Yahweh/Jesus specifically created EVIL in Isaiah 45:7, then this is to be another godly biblical axiom without question, period!"  Understood now?

Oh yes, i most definately understand. So i have to ask you. How do you know that a book made in 1611 with less than 200 greek scholar authorized under king james has written the "closest" thing to truth than what we have today? We currently have over 6k manuscripts of the greek new testament alone. Not to mention the thousands written in other languages. And by the way, you referring to 1611 kjv bible right? They had the apocrytha which is considered UNINSPIRED scripture.  

No, you arent a greek scholar to assert the kjv as the most complete, infact kjv onlyism is a rather intresting problem among believers.  Ill give ya some links to do research on kjv ism and let you decide. 

Also its listed as other because pentecostalism isnt listed. Not because im "hiding." What a laughable assumption.

Here is a dialouge i think u might find intresting https://youtu.be/HKoiayYlkyg

https://youtu.be/XYICttGoUvg. Daniel wallace someone who actually studies the manuscripts. 8 vs 6k. You do the math.

And there is alot more i can give you. But ill make this clear. YOU ARENT A SCHOLAR, YOUR OPINION ON GREEK WORDS MEANS BEANS. To put it politely. If you think kjv onlyism is correct, create a thread or a debate about it.

Also i didnt even touch the hebrew. Which i gave links above that you disregarded. Who is the arrogant one? The person who dismisses the research of men smarter than himself to shout his opinion? Or the man who gives the facts and acknowledges what others say?

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DART & Covid-19
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@fauxlaw
Congrats on gold metal
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Online classes
I love how the bible says it. " a man that strives for mastery is temperate in all things. 1 corinthians 9:25
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Online classes
A analogy i use is this: without discipline, you are trying to peel a potatoe with a dull knife, with it, you are methodicly peeling it with a peeler
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Online classes
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@fauxlaw
There is definately something to be understood about social experience and academic focus.

My pastor was grateful to the school system for a number of reasons. 
1: the enviroment it helped him with focus.
2: the people, it helped him to consider other views.

But most of all he values education for discipline. He always stresses having access to books, developing a good method of study (retaining the knowledge) and to discipline yourself to do the studying repeatedly.

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If Not God Then Who?
Im going to assume you dont read or you dont recognize that hebrew words have differing meanings. Would you care to exegete how evil is the better word for isaiah 45:7 instead of calamity?
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Covid 19 Is Turning Everyone "To The Muslim Way Of Life".
None.
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Bad Ass Boris Tests Positive
He is apparently doing better now.

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Online classes
With everything thats going on right now, what is your opinion of online education vs classroom or auditorium education?
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Covid 19 Is Turning Everyone "To The Muslim Way Of Life".
It is impossible to know God when you dont even take time to learn OF God.
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One spoon One cup and a few hundred Christians.
Never heard of communion done that way. Common sense doesnt substitute religious zeal
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Should Dart learn something from DDO?
Forgot to add this.

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For Any Editors...
Nice. Thanks for the info
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Regular Show: More Than A Cartoon
You know who else has a big mouth? MY MOM!  Did muscle man have family problems?
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How does picard stack up against TNG?
Be mindful of spoilers, i think they actually did a good job of showing a progressive character, i dont think what he did regarding romulans is accurate, the picard of TNG would have never done that.
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Ramdatt. Why?
He just keeps getting sniped for forfeits. Should he be suspended from debating?


Noob-sniping - the act of an experienced or established user deliberately taking on debates with new (often inexperienced users) to inflate their own win/loss record
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Who would you trust to give you the objective facts in DART?
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@nonjudgmental
If you are wanting more recent and updated info, i suggest reading rationalmadman. If you are wanting views on scripture i recommend faux, or dr franklin. If you want socialble people i recommend supaduz. Etc.   https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3415/my-must-read-members-list. This might help 
If you want the TRUTH. I recommend reading the bible. And ill help how i can. I believe truth is a spirit. The holy spirit which the world cant recieve.  John 14:6 john 14:16-19

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Who would you trust to give you the objective facts in DART?
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@nonjudgmental
If you are trying to understand who is most truthful here, then you forgot that this is a debate website. Where truth is even questioned and very often not defined. Having definitions doesnt give you authority in a forum, only a agreed upon resource, which can be shot down. You probably would have been better off asking "who do you agree with most in debates?" Or something along that line. Just ignore semantic users. Welcome to debateart.
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Who would you trust to give you the objective facts in DART?
I think you misunderstood what he means by truth. He even gave the definition for it, but you operate under an assumption that truth isnt discoverable because people are different. 

I dont trust anyone to give me the truth other than God. If what they say lines up with what God says, then ill consider their words. 

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Should Dart learn something from DDO?
You can disagree with people without doing "direct attack" you dont have to curse or insult or degrade or troll, we make choices how to approach people. 
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Covid 19 Is Turning Everyone "To The Muslim Way Of Life".
Just more conspiracy. People can encourage whatever lies they can to keep people from the truth of jesus christ. And that cdc,who arent to be trusted.
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If Not God Then Who?
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@BrotherDThomas
You bring an intresting point up, aside from your assertion of rewriting scripture. And in truth i wasnt redefining the bible, i was referencing the hebrew word for evil, which "ra" is used in place of calamity, even other bible translations use the word calamity instead of evil.

Now to the intresting point (to me) there are things that man has done which didnt enter Gods mind. Jeremiah 19:5 jeremiah 32:35.  So, you are using scripture to assert evil was part of God's mind? If that were the case, then let me ask you something. If evil was for his glory, why didnt he glorify the first being to commit evil? No. He uses even evil to glorify his GOODNESS and his MAJESTY. By accomplishing his will through the judgement and destruction of evil. IE Calamity. 

Here are some commentaries that you might consider

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Will AI Morally Obligate Us?
Here is the thing, if you are basing morality as subjective, you will have different answers. If you use an objective morality however, then the answer will never vary.
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A challenge to theists. Can you be honest.
Here is the true definition of what faith is. 


Hebrews 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 1: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

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Why is everyone so formal and manipulative
Play a different game. If you dont like chess, try hide and seek!  Do discussions
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Voting - Feeling
Do discussions instead. Thats what i do.
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Should Dart learn something from DDO?
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@User_2006
also, thank you for including me in this discussion.
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Should Dart learn something from DDO?
Hmmmm. Picking your battles is the most important thing to learn. The vote systems are both off in my opinion. DDO was mostly unmoderated, but DART wants your reasonings for your vote. I believe there should be moderation, but votes that are still intellectually raw will encourage more votes. A summary of your view why one argument is superior to the other as well as necessary conduct, spelling and sources check.  It seems difficult to have a simple break down of reasoning and balance that with "feel" voting.  

Another thing that i would do personally would make the author of forum topic not able to see posters comments whom they have blocked. Sure it can be taken advantage of, but its up to each of us to consider the opinions of others, what we can handle and what we disregard (ie troll posters who go off topic) to simply make their comments not appear to those who blocked them.


Being able to cancel your own debate would also be a life send. Or make it where unmoderated debates can be cancelled. I cant tell you how many times life gets in the way or the other person simply just trolls.  

Also why is comments of debates backward from forums? Make it where we see on BOTH that the first comment is newest or the first. 

That being said, i dont believe in debate structures DDO and DART. Its like an arena setup instead of a reasoning setup. Sure people can value sound logic, but i believe trying to discuss the merits of your topic to the other person is more important than kritics and semantic loops. Sources and their origins are worth exploring.  

Me? I care only about spreading the TRUTH. The gospel of Jesus christ. So i usually use 1 or 2 sources for most of my views. 

Until humans become omnscient, knowing the most accurate facts at the time is more important to me. And we all have the ability to do that without insulting each other or putting definitions in other people's mouth.  

Remember, spock (a person regarding things through pure logic) is an ideal, not the reality. Consider the feelings of others, if we dont understand the person we are discussing or debating with, no one wins.


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They haven't sung songs to the god thing for 3 weeks now.
Bible tells us to sing songs and make melody in our heart to the Lord. Doesnt matter where.
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Water Baptism: What's the big deal?
John 3:3-7 comes before john 3:16. Also colossians 2:8-13 
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Satan; The Serpent of Eden and Revelation
Just as he is described as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, or the thief which comes to steal, kill and destroy. 1 peter 5:8 john 10:8-11. Revelation 12:3-4 and 13:4
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Satan; The Serpent of Eden and Revelation
Satan is a spirit and spirits are capable of affecting and even possessing animals as well as humans. But adam and eve were one in God, the animals were not given such protection or oneness. So satan affected the serpent to lie and that became a role to refer to satan as. He is also called a dragon in revelation as well.
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Thou Shalt Not Kill.
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@BrotherDThomas
Would you be willing to discuss some biblical topics in order to exegete them? 

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If Not God Then Who?
So calamity comes on those who choose to do evil.
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If Not God Then Who?

Evil as in disruption of peace or calamity, God didnt create the concept of evil when lucifer first lifted himself up in pride, or when mankind disobeyed his direct commands. We made the choice.

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Do not exchange knowledge of reality for knowledge of words
Basically title. I have found that many people here have traded one knowledge for another. The goal of every conversation and debate is to express an idea and to agree or disagree with it. When you use words that have subjective meanings or are disputed at best or misdefined at worse, you create chaos. Use simple words, or come together to agree on which meanings are appropriate. If you cannot agree on what words mean, then how can you express your beliefs or the truth to that person? Consider being open to understanding what the other person says. If you dont agree or understand each other, then speak with someone you can understand. Save yourself from needless headaches, let life shape and convience them if you cannot.
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If Not God Then Who?
It was man who chose to sin and so evil comes upon those who perform evil. Humanity has no one to blame but its self. The sooner we acknowledge our sin, the sooner we can be forgiven. The greatest physical representation of evil looks us in the face when we see a mirror. 

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-It is normal to have disobedience if the rule conveyer forces without reasoning.
Has to do with trust. If you dont trust someone, yes easily. But if you do trust someone, then the why is less important, especially if you know them.
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Thou Shalt Not Kill.
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Atheists Are Not Stupid
Making anything holy is really easy, you dont have to be a priest to make water holy.
All you have to do to make something holy is to dedicate what you do or an object to God with honor and obedience. He has commanded us to be holy as he is holy. 

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Thou Shalt Not Kill.

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What would happen if the earth stopped rotating?
All of that can be true, IF the world wasnt made in 4 days and creation in 6 days.
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