Melcharaz

No worries, jesus will come back soon and you might get to be part of a true theocracy. 

1 john 2:16-17. Galatians 5:16-17,19-21

No, and God will judge the pastor for allowing it.

Did you know God killed israelites while they were naked? They were worshipping baal and aaron made them stay naked so their enemies would mock them. Exodus 32:19-28 If you are wanting to justify nakedness according to God, you wont suceed, you will be judged for disobedience.if you want to harden yourself and die, then continue to disregard God. Or, you can repent and be saved that you might live. Acts 2:38 john 10:10

2 timothy 3:12-14. Also 2 timothy 3:1-10 james 3:13-18 is worth reading

Because sin abounds and people decieve and become decieved, excusing foolishness for art. 

2 corinthians 5:21 1 peter 2:24 isaiah 53:3-5

So that he could bear our shame and nakedness and fulfill all righteousness. Also you will have to quote the verses if you mean to imply scripture. Example. Hebrews 12:2 

Yes, they were ashamed because of knowlegde of good and evil, and they lost their connection to God. There are many reasons to be clothed, not only from common sense and pratical stand point, but also spiritual stand point. I ask you both to repent of this and keep your nakedness between yourselves, that you wont be tempted or tempt others and be further hardened by the decietfulness of sin.

Shame. Thats why God clothed man and woman when they knew they were naked. Also why God clothes us in his righteousness when we obey him. Acts 2:38 is how you can be saved. 

Demons used the word "if" when speaking to jesus. Jesus said "if" a couple of times too.

What needs to be understood is the specific implications of if and its context. As the word If can introduce doubt and fear, in other context it presents an opportunity. 

I believe that people shouldnt use the word if in the context of doubt or fear. But in hope and in belief of an open opportunity like Jesus did.

2 words.  Yadah. And genosko. They mean the same thing, intimate knowledge of. 

God knows that people know about him, but they dont yadah or genosko him. Which is what is needful for salvation. 

Lets not insult others if you can help it. If people say foolish things to irritate ya, just ignore them. 

If you use the theory of an imaginary friend. Then you have to pose the question, what is the friend saying to them? Many people call themselves christians and dont obey God or even know his will or attitude about behaviors. So if a christian has a voice telling them to do things Gods word condemns, then God is either a hypocrite, the bible is not the revealed intention of God, or another voice/spirit is whispering to them.

So let me ask yall a few questions: 1 is God a hypocrite? 2: is he a liar? 3:Does he want us to disobey him?

Im not compromising the bible for a fool. But basically, spirits affect our thoughts and God made universe dark for a reason.

My dad actually had died multiple times during a surgery, however he doesnt recall anything. 

Near death experience is often used in place of death experience. People have actually died. Not nearly die. 

Meh, just ignore em. Is there a situation where moral relativism could be true and consistent? For example, there being no God.

Near death or death experiences are different for most people. Most of the time there is only darkness, sometimes they speak with God, or see heaven or hell. I remember one time a guy died and he asked God, "why didnt i see you" to which God told him that if he did see him, he would have insisted on Going with God, thus negate God's will for his life. (He is alive today) death is personal, God doesnt change who he is, but he allows unique understandings of who he is, even to people who die.

Either believe God or don't. Stephen is in a better position to be saved, because God can work with hot and cold, but not someone lukewarm. 

I like the concept of alternate deminsions, its very helpful to know that when we have feelings and thoughts that arent ours, that we know a spirit is trying to influence us. And as God said, he clothes the heavens in darkness by his discretion.

You are asserting again. There is no debate of God, only a convincing to others of his works. This world doesnt revolve around you. Just because you see someone unconvinced doesnt mean there is no God. Miracles proof God. Man cant do them. And by holding to Gods morality we see God operating through those who believe. And those who dont obey God progress toward more evil.

So you have no proof and want no proof. A fool says there is no God

And what proof would you accept that there is a God? You started this thread in bad faith simply to mock your own hypocrtical standards.  If you truely believe there is no God then there is no need for theism and anti theism to agree. If you want proof of a God then i suggest miracles and supernatural events and manipulation of the natural world its self as proof of a more powerful being, (all of which has been done) if not, then tell what proofs you will accept. Or continue ranting foolishly

If you believe im making "wild assumptions" then you deal with it. Ask my source, tell me why you think that what i said is an assumption. 

Also melchezidek is either christ or a man. Not an angel, he either had no beginning of days, or his ideology and priesthood had no beginning of days. Only 1 being can be a priest, mankind. And Christ being the high priest. According to scripture.

Have you read the listings of angels in the book of enoch? For example, the angel uriel. I will link. http://www.hiddenbible.com/enoch/online2.html

[Chapter 20]

1,2 And these are the names of the holy angels who watch. Uriel, one of the holy angels, who is 3 over the world and over Tartarus. Raphael, one of the holy angels, who is over the spirits of men. 4,5 Raguel, one of the holy angels who takes vengeance on the world of the luminaries. Michael, one 6 of the holy angels, to wit, he that is set over the best part of mankind and over chaos. Saraqael, 7 one of the holy angels, who is set over the spirits, who sin in the spirit. Gabriel, one of the holy 8 angels, who is over Paradise and the serpents and the Cherubim. Remiel, one of the holy angels, whom God set over those who rise.

Chapter 40]
1 And after that I saw thousands of thousands and ten thousand times ten thousand, I saw a multitude 2 beyond number and reckoning, who stood before the Lord of Spirits. And on the four sides of the Lord of Spirits I saw four presences, different from those that sleep not, and I learnt their names: for the angel that went with me made known to me their names, and showed me all the hidden things. 3 And I heard the voices of those four presences as they uttered praises before the Lord of glory. 4,5 The first voice blesses the Lord of Spirits for ever and ever. And the second voice I heard blessing 6 the Elect One and the elect ones who hang upon the Lord of Spirits. And the third voice I heard pray and intercede for those who dwell on the earth and supplicate in the name of the Lord of Spirits. 7 And I heard the fourth voice fending off the Satans and forbidding them to come before the Lord 8 of Spirits to accuse them who dwell on the earth. After that I asked the angel of peace who went with me, who showed me everything that is hidden: 'Who are these four presences which I have 9 seen and whose words I have heard and written down?' And he said to me: 'This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.' 10 And these are the four angels of the Lord of Spirits and the four voices I heard in those days.

Lucifer represents the light of the light because of his beauty and wisdom, a lesser light. Who then became corrupted by his own brightness and became the father of lies. The fallen light. And if you study what darkness is, you find black is a mixture of colors, not lack of it. Likewise satan is a mixture of light, but not its pureness. 

I know a good sermon that can explain it better. Star wars by bishop wagner. Also here are scriptures. Hebrews 1:1-4 colossians 1:13-16 isaiah 14:12-14 ezekiel 28:12-19 luke 10:18 john 14:6 john 8:12 john 1:1-5 

In a manner of speaking he is the sun. But not in actual representation. If we look at genesis, the sun was made before the stars. Jesus is called the firstborn of creation in scriptures. Or as john 1:1 says, in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. Its a representation of his role as giver of life in a metaphorical sense. He calls himself the bright and morning star. Whereas lucifer is called the son of the morning. 

Have you regarded the book of enoch?

Yeah i deny moral relativism. Morality is based on the conscience God gave us, the reason morality is different is because of sin. God is the only one who can define morality, and we see him doing it in scriptures.

Do you believe that God is in turmoil?

Is this an assertion that 3 is meaningful?

What is the standard of proof? Does God have to do what he said he would do? Does miracles and bending of reality count as proof? Sounds to me like someone came with an assertion without desire to be convinced.

Yes. I dont believe in debates, i believe in discussions. Actual questions and answers. The only thing worthwhile in debates to me is cross examination. Why people think or believe something shows who they are.

Read the bible and you will know

But dont ya know that sin is in the blood? Corruption. 

Everyone needs to turn to God. Salvation is through belief in God and acts 2:38 tells you how to be saved. I dont want yall going to hell. 

I think its just assertion and a strawman till perimeters are defined. What is a cause? For example, how would you define it? Isnt it subjective?  Also it asserts an idea that isnt yet provable, although science is making great strides, but science its self is determined by mankinds understanding. I think establishing the back ground of kalam would be more benefical before actually doing a discussion through it. 

How yall doing?

I often find the term "original sin" dishonest. The first sin was by lucifer, so he did the original one. Man disobeyed God by eating fruit. I advocate "First sin of humanity' works better. Eve sinning first, then adam.

Meh, nothing to worry about, man wont completely destroy the world or anything. Be best you that you can be and try not to destroy world.

Same reason lots of other diseases were allowed, cause people dont listen and stupid stuff happens so God lets it do so much damage until people wake up or straight rebel.

anyone?

a person said.  speaking in tongues is not evidence of salvation     

would this be blashemy?  i think it is based on mark 16:17.

if you cannot discuss then turn away. you lose nothing by not responding to accusation or trolling.

this is turning adversarial, i encourage discussion. not debate.  

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name SHALL BE called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

So was christ first melchisedec? will he be melchisedec?  Etc,       

DISCUSSION IS ENCOURAGED, DEBATE IS NOT.

my testimony is undeniable. The greatness and mercy of my God who saved me.  I was in darkness and yet he saw me.  How many can say the same? how many people's time have run out or were taken and didn't see the sunrise?  But when i was in depravity, he found me.  When i felt void, he made me whole.  Life is precious, every moment, even the pains.   When you see a sunrise, thousands don't.  what hope is there without a testimony or a faith? Fear and void.