Melcharaz

is not hope for something better worth dying for?  what ill do people do in trying to live a good life for their god?

get behind me satan, your time is not yet and my time is now. for it is day and the night comes when no man can work.  Do not hinder me from my work anymore. I rebuke you in the name of jesus and you will not speak to me through this vessel anymore.

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

more wind to blow and less substance.  The hypocrite shall not stand.

your words are empty, there is no reproof against what i say, only a desire to stir up evil.   you are decieved and your heart hardened that you cannot discern truth.  You must repent or you will be as darkness. 

Now, if you wish to actually use scripture and try to converse like an adult, reword your... statements.  and give me scripture or greek to back up your words.

im glad we agree.

prayers are good and we can look at them.  but unless it comes from our own heart and with understanding, it is void.

more than strengthens. dwells in us.

loving is not an attitude adjustment, it is the work of the holy spirit (ruach ha'kodesh)  To do all those things which Christ said, you must have his spirit to do.

what?

okay

A faith that is created is often used for mental sense of security and hope in something better, or is something to help a person feel empowered through their works, beliefs and their attitude toward the world. 

However, faith was never meant to stand on just an idea, what is needed is something applicable to a real life.  So what is more powerful to a person than something actually happening in real life when it agrees with their faith? Nothing, many people die for faith that truely affects their reality.

To say that you have seen people who were blind suddenly receive sight is almost laughed at as evidence to others, and highly discredited when on video/audio.  But when it has happened to you, then you know that the power at work is the thing responsible, not just a presupposed idea.

So, what then actually affects real life? Well, if we look at religions across the world, almost every founder or instigator was inspired by knowledge they found or took from a strange being, book or writings/drawings.  maybe even idols.   Some have had direct experience with deities and have documented and eye witness account of what happened to them or what they were able to do.  Witchcraft has power for example, but when compared to say the torah from jewish writings, they declare the power to be demonic or under the influence of a god, (demon) 

Okay, so we have established that basically the greatest power wins right? the one who is able to do anything and everything they want without regard to other deities or rules has got to be the freest (in regards to other deities) and most likely the most powerful.   So what God is the most powerful and most free of all?  I would argue YHWH is.  There hasn't been a god yet that has defeated him or subjected him or made his words not come to pass other than himself.   

Try him, seek his word and read it.  ask him questions while reading, ask for healing, ask for peace (According to his word) and see if he does it, and if he doesn't, why doesn't he?   If we have one life, why live in doubt? why not try to find peace? healing? meaning?  

Untested faith is no better than a lie.

for the resources in apology and his videos regarding TR KJV only and some of his videos on textus majora and other works.

why are you telling me this?

okay

why are you asking me? ask God. im not god.

have you ever heard of james white?

you are asking me why you should believe in god's word?  The only reason i could see anyone believing in the word is that it is true and that God is as it says he is and has revealed himself to that person.

why should you agree with what?

do your texts include deutercanonical books?

lets look at things in terms of realism for a moment.  Most people will not tend to look into things they are not intrigued in.  Most people will not spend their time on faiths they likely don't believe unless its to reinforce or clarify their own faith.  

Now, if you are asking when did lucifer become known as satan? thats one question, to assert lucifer or satan as part of the person hood of God is not a wide spread blashemy of scripture, but it is often used in conjunction with people who are satanists to help elevate the idea of Lucifer as being a free agent apart from god and just in general mess with the idea that not everything has to do what God says or else. 

Many people who disagree with a particular faith often ridicule or denounce it.  Sometimes even conflating or strawmanning the core doctrines.  Which points to you not agreeing with the bible in particular.

i wouldn't rely too heavily on TR stuff.  alot of how scripture from the manuscripts is put into bibles can go in at least 3 different ways.

Text majora.

most manuscripts (despite age) have these passages

Text minora

A few manuscripts (despite age) have these passages

(I forget the name of this one)

Manuscripts aren't determined by number but by date that is found.  example, text found in 200 ad has presidence over a manuscript found in 800 ad or 1200 ad.

you err in interpretation of the scriptures. When it speaks of God creating evil, its not the same evil you see in man. It is the response of YHWH to bring judgement on the people who do evil and is evil to them.   And yes, all humans are evil. romans 3:10-25.  romans 5:8-10.   

other sources of isaiah 45:7.

Niv. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

nlt. I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things.

esv. I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things.

bsb. I form light and create darkness; I bring prosperity and create calamity. I, the LORD, do all these things.

nasb. The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.

csb. I form light and create darkness, I make success and create disaster; I am the LORD, who does all these things.

cev. create light and darkness, happiness and sorrow. I, the LORD, do all this.

gnt. I create both light and darkness; I bring both blessing and disaster. I, the LORD, do all these things.

and many others.   its hard to defend a kjv only view of scripture even if you have knowledge of the orginal hebrew and greek languages.

Amos 3:6 When a trumpet sounds in a city,

Colossians 1:16

 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

Not sure how you assume evil through YHWH's Power or headship.

Again, the scriptures say that none have done good, the baby thats in the womb is innocent of the hardness of sin, but even in the womb is still a sinful creature, the only human that was not sinful and was pure was Yuhshua ha'mashiach (Jesus christ)

Trying to ascribe evil to God is a form of blasphemy, to say however that YHWH rewards disaster or evil upon the evil is recognition of his justice. For he is not an EL to allow wickness.

well, better than farscape for sure.

then how does he judge among the gods as its written in psalms? there is a difference between him being El and then eloheim.

This is an interesting topic. I agree that we should be more specific in regards to what God or Gods we are referring to. The bible mentions and talks about gods in many places.  specifically 2 places i would like to mention.  Not to just you but to everyone.

psalms 82:1-8

psalm 82:6  have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.   (Some translations say Sons of the most high)

john 10:30-38

John 10:34-36 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”'? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

I believe these Gods he is referring to is angels

His heart is without knowledge

The line is drawn across the sand

there is no hope for his kind

They have no rest or peace

But the Lord sees all and he will not refrain justice

They thought he was like them.

he will judge them.

They have no understanding, they go astray as sheep

Compassion will give instruction

Mercy will reveal blessing and law

They keep it not.

The enemies teeth are broken

Their arm lacks strength

Terror comes in the night

They have no rest

There is no peace before them

The sons of God are witness,

The earth declares their sin

The sun is smitten in shame

the moon hides its face

The mighty one weighs the hearts and finds them wanting

Heaven drops down with thunder

With grace of the dew in the morning.

The heathen will yet praise the Lord

He renews his mercy before the sun

After the moon has covered its lines

There is yet hope for the forsaken and forgotten

There is peace for those who seek it

righteousness for the faithful

As phinehas impaled the trespasser

As the javelin was moved through zeal

So shall the lord destroy the wicked

and with promise bless the righteous.

They that cannot hear will not hear

neither they that are blinded can see.

their destruction is sudden, as thief in the night.

The seas roar and are tossed

So are the fools in their hope

Their sound is sudden and great

Then they cannot be found

the wind stirs up the dust

To toss to its circuits

So are they that are of the spirit

The observers are confounded by their paths.

The moon is a witness, the depths will not be searched

Neither shall the heavens be measured

So shall the Lord rule forever

no arrow touches his throne

the court of the sun is humbled

Drop down mountains, the mighty one comes

The saints of the most high shines in his glory

the fires are quenched in darkness

For he dwells in the thick darkness

The heavens and earth shall shake

They will tremble at his feet.

The rocks shall not hide them

The caves shall not prevent his eyes

reported. you come over to dart and do the crap you did at ddo you will be banned. 

the bible in its totality shows God as creating good and evil.

your assumption of the bible being nothing but lies shows you haven't studied it.  there are many truths in the bible that can be applied now days.  You obviously don't care though and only research the errors or seeming contridictions.

Those verses tell us that God is love and that to know God we must love.  But it never states that God is nothing BUT love or is Entirely Love.

exodus 34:14  God is jealous

Deuteronomy 4:24  God is a consuming fire

psalms 25:8-14

You missed the entire point of this thread, I'm not surprised though, you are biblically illiterate.

you gave your speculation which is not foundational to discrediting or disproving that i do indeed do research on what i talk about and believe.

sheol, gehenna is under the earth. not the lake of fire. 

The bible never says that hell is the eternal punishment. In revelation specifically it says "Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire"  meaning there is a different place all together, even if only refering to the residents of hell, they are put in a lake of fire which is different from the bibles showing of Hell.

infact there are many understandings of what hell really is and what the outer darkness is and what the lake of fire is.  Because it states that the beast and false prophet were cast into the lake of fire before satan was.     But any way that you look at it.  The lake of fire is altogether different than "The grave and death and sheol" which are mentioned in the old testament.  I think the quotes of jesus referring to the rich man and lazerus has best understanding of the difference of abrahams bosom and gehenna.

I already stated the difference in revelations.   Also, further reading of the bible can interpret the lake of fire as a place on earth during the 1k reign of christ.  

and eternal fire is refering to what? Hell or the lake of fire?

are you asserting these claims based on the bible? If so, the bible contridicts some of your statements.  "I make Good, i create evil."   just 1 example.

The bible never says that hell is the eternal punishment. In revelation specifically it says "Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire"  meaning there is a different place all together, even if only refering to the residents of hell, they are put in a lake of fire which is different from the bibles showing of Hell.

if God indeed is all loving, he should also love sin.  and if he loves sin, his statements of hating sin is contridictory. There is no evidence of God saying he is omni benevolent in scripture.

In order to define God we often use the words Omni (All) potent (powerful) scient (Knowing) present (everywhere)   however God has never described himself as All loving.  This is something i feel people used to describe God for 3 reasons

1: They don't understand that God isn't ALL loving but shows his love to all things except for sin

2: They are ignorant of they are talking about

3: It purposely listed in order for them to denounce it so that they can further denounce the concept or omni of God.

I disagree that God is all loving,  IF we are looking for an attribute to describe God in a sense that we can understand, we should use "Holy"  Holy means sacred or revered and in the context of God it can be simplifed to "Set apart, Different in a sense of reverence"   Its to emphasis that he is NOT like us, that he is completely different from us   "Whom will you liken unto me?"  God asks this question for man to consider if there is anything we can think of that is similar to God in power, in knowing, in presence and in his Difference  concerning us.

Consider Omniholy before stating Omnibenevolent. 

another false assertion? and how do you know if i have and haven't done research?  you don't. Don't assume things you don't know if they are true or not.

I suck at voting.

only thing i might be good at is knowing biblical scripture debates, but even then, the burden of proof is on scripture most of the time.

its not possible for an unregenerated person to fear the concept of christianity. It is possible to be afraid of the wrath of God, but that would mean you believed in God and that he has wrath on sinners.  no.  The ones who are really afraid are those who willfully blashemed the holy spirit and turned their back on God after recieving it and accepting forgiveness of sins.   Until then, the only way you will fear God is if you believe in him, or if he manifests himself.

When was the last time you accused someone of not doing research when you had no idea if they did or didn't?  Don't make false assertions regarding others.

if you are going to troll me across the forums you will be reported.   As to what i believe, you apparently don't believe it so its of no consequence to you.

Im encouraging people to research and to study. Everyone is a scientist, we all study, we all observe, the only question is, how deep are we gonna go into it? Society recognizes them through salary or quoting them for the depth of research they have done.  I esteem no human any better than another.

a very good observation! however the matthew account is eye witness based. i know John mark wrote alot after the death of Jesus, Matthew (Also known as levi) and john (the one jesus loved) and luke the physcian.  However if we read the accounts before jesus being crucified, we find that the disciples scattered when jesus was seized by the pharisees. The account was told that the tombs opened WHEN Jesus was ressurected, not when he was crucified.    So, most likely Luke and the others heard about what was said from the women (Aside from mary) who were there to witness Jesus's final moments.  mark 15:40-43,47  Luke assumingly was with the other disciples, namely peter because his account luke 24:8-12.   also confirmed in luke 24:33.  

Johns account. John 19:25-27 confirms that John took mary to his house within that hour in kjv.  John was near the sea of galilee Matthew 4:17-23. So its very likely that he took the journey to his home there and didn't witness the ressurection which matthew must have witnessed.

its a 63 mile journey from galilee to judea.    It depends on both where in Judea you're starting and how urgently you want to get to Galilee. Checking Google maps, the trip from Jerusalem to Degania Alef on the south end of the Sea of Galilee is about 150 km. Starting from a spot in Judea farther west or south might increase the distance to 200 km.

However, acts 12;12 shows that John mark's mother was a disciple of Jesus and that the Disciples met there.

Some food for thought!

don't let people disuade ya, everyone is a scientist. The only difference is the dedication to truth.

If it were strictly fantasy then how is it you are unable to accumulate the same knowledge? is my compacity for "Imagination" greater than yours and just somehow fits logically with reality?   Get the holy Ghost and you will see for yourself whether its "fantasy" or not.   

also there is scientific proof of it, don't believe me? google it.  researchers have published works about it.  And if you choose not to, the burden of non proof is on you.

The same way i know everything else, I believe the truth when its presented to me. Now stop asking me that please.

That would require you to read the bible.  So, get to readin!