Mharman

I actually hate the pro bowl. Super boring.

k imma look for a theme

Would’ve joined if I hadn’t committed myself to a mafia game at the time; I don’t think I can do both at once.

Regardless I’ll watch, maybe (and that’s a big maybe) even vote on some of these.

I’m not skeptical of science- it is merely a field or study. I am much more skeptical of some of the conclusions being made, especially when they encourage you to forgo your own research in favor of whatever it is they tell you. “Trust the science” in itself is anti-science because it clashes with the healthy skepticism that a healthy field of study needs.

If you decide to still play lmk

I’m just gonna guess you’re out

RNG: 4

Matrix 9/12: 0

Ok. I’ll remove you.

You out as well, Grey?

Anybody else? Two more players and I’ll start Monday night or Tuesday evening.

Town obviously wouldn’t get such a luxury since any cop or other investigative role who gets killed by mafia to prevent a result from being revealed would then be able to reveal their results.

Yeah. I don’t necessarily understand why that’s the meta, but if I were to guess it would be to prevent things like mafia choking an otherwise good game (for them anyways) away because their best player got lynched/killed.

I think I will start the game if I get 10 players. Probs going to be RNG Mafia based on current vote but if not I think I can make either of the Matrix setups with work with 10 players if I make slight adjustments.

Still, players may join even if there are already 10 players signed up. I’ll give them some time.

But I will need the help in the future.

I won’t need the help for my current game since Matrix 12 is pre-made and RNG’s balance is entirely random.

So I’ve ran 3 games that completed and I honestly think they were all very town sided in balance. So I’m looking for someone to help me balance my next game after RNG/Matrix 12 Mafia. Preferably someone who doesn’t play mafia a whole lot anymore, but is very experienced in designing games.

Any preference on which game (between Matrix 12 or RNG)?

Rule change: Mafia will be allowed to post in the mafia chat after death. I used to have a rule where mafia couldn’t, but it wasn’t received well. Perhaps for a good reason. Let me know.

If you have any questions about RNG Mafia’s mechanics, or about how I will mod whatever game is chosen, let me know.

For either setup (RNG or Matrix 12), once the game starts I can’t answer questions about what roles are in the game (or who holds them, duh), but I can answer hypothetical questions about how a game mechanic would work, even after the game starts. 

Rules are simple. Be active or be replaced, don’t copy and paste your role PM, and don’t post in a thread during a night phase.

Oh ok

RNG: 4

Matrix 12: 0

So I came up with a cool thought experiment in RNG Mafia, but I'm not sure how fun it would be to play, so I am giving the option to vote for a Matrix 6 or 12 (depends on player count) setup game instead which can fill in extra slots with vanillas and goons.

This is a 10 or more player game. Before the game starts, I will randomize everything about the game from a pool of possibilities. Here are the odds:

Town vs Mafia (65% chance)

Town vs Mafia A vs Mafia B (35% chance)

No Survivors (60% chance)

1 Survivor (40% chance)

Mafia:

No power role (50% chance)

1 power role (50% chance)

Town:

No power role (70% Chance)

1 Power role, selected from pool (30% chance)

Mafia: 3x Roleblocker, 2x Redirector, Janitor, Ninja, Strongman, Lookout

Town: 1x Bulletproof, Tracker, 2x Doctor, Watcher, 3x Roleblocker, Bodyguard, Popular (gone in MYLO/LYLO),  1x Gunsmith, 1x Commuter, 1x Weak Cop

Depends oon how many players. 10 or more = Matrix 12. 9 or less = Matrix 6.

Alright, you may sign up and cast your votes.

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Supa told me to go.

Meant to tag Supa not you in the previous post.

“How to fight misinformation” typically means you’re just spewing about how the other side is misinformation. Typically rife with ad homs as well.

Interesting question and I like a non-toxic religion forum post. However, I don’t think I have an answer for this one. My Christian beliefs have only been reinforced after a lot of thinking I’ve done.

Thanks. Just don’t give mafia every possible fake claim so that they still have the freedom to craft one of their own if they want to. Forgot to mention that.

Oh and a side note: I know mafia teams will try to have town claim first to see what town characters are already in the game to avoid getting CC’d. But this would be different because in my idea they would be using town claims to gauge the benefits of each fake claim already given to them. It would make fake claiming a little easier on mafia teams, but still require some skill to pick the better ones from the pool.

I get that. It feels like finding a fake claim is entirely random as mafia. If you aren’t gutsy enough to pick a major-ish character, you have to be really good at blending in that game to survive. Get too aggressive with your fake claim pick and you get CC’d. Even if your pick is picked with the right amount of aggression, it may not fit the theme perfectly and you get lynched anyways. If the mod gives fake claims, they have to perfectly be not too detectable, but not a free pass for the rest of the game either.

But yeah, it gets people talking. This game too. Disc’s idea of gender claiming was the center of DP1 and kickstarted the game. Without one, DP1 can feel like a glorified RVS.

I did find something interesting while digging through Lunatic’s past games. In Overwatch Mafia, he gave the scum team a pool of safe fake claims to choose from. I like this and I think the solution may lie in an evolved form of this idea.

What if we gave the mafia a pool of fake claims, but specifically designed some of the claims to be better than others, and made sure mafia was aware that some are better than others? Sure, they still have to do a bit of research to pick a good fake claim, but with some fake claims already on the table, it becomes less random when picking one since you know the choices provided aren’t going to be CC’d. It would, in theory, encourage mafia to try to get town to claim first so they can see which fake claim picks from the pool are the best, and it would mean they have to try to get more out of town while avoiding the suspicions of town.

Ok. I will some time after work today

Makes sense.

Sooo…….

Are you going or am I, Supa?

Random Number Generator. It would mean a mafia game where the setup is crated by randomization. Not sure how many people would actually want to play such an unbalanced game though. I might go with something else, but it could be a neat experiment to see what would happen.

Oh he put his game on hold mid sign-ups. So he's ahead of me.

Supa, do you want to post your sign ups or do you want to wait and have me post mine?

Wait, was Supa supposed to be ahead of me? I thought Kanye West's Discography Mafia was already played.

As for you, just keep playing. There are worse rookie mistakes one can make. *Glances at WaterPhoenix*

Ooooh I never caught on to that.

Wouldn't have mattered anyways, since if I did I probably would have gone for Supa instead.

All can say is, I'm giving potential lynch targets more time to defend themselves next game.

But honestly, if town is faced with a claimed survivor and still mislynches two townies AND those townies they lynched accurately claimed their power roles before getting lynched, town doesn't deserve to win. Period.

GGs.

Maybe. But overall Survivors go with whoever's winning. If we had done better early game, he may have sided with us. Was kinda hoping he would side with town in DP3 just to avenge Badger for the humor of it.