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WAIT A SEC
By post #23 no one had claimed Confederate. Obviously Oromagi would know he was confederate, but where did he get the second confederate from if what he said in Post #532 is true and that he did mean to say "2 confederates, 2 town"?
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@Lunatic
What he makes you say he isn't a power role?
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@Lunatic
If his role is provable, why not let him give us the information AND get him town confirmed if he's right?
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@Lunatic
I find that if he at least does SOMETHING with his voyeur role, it will give up at least something to work with. It won't be much, but if he is a power role then mafia will NK him before they risk being caught by him.
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If a doctor is in this game, please protect Crocodile.
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While what Lunatic said about Oromagi makes a lot of sense, and Oromagi's claims about himself are dubious but believable, that doesn't answer my scum read on Bearman or That1User. Personally I'm more suspicious of That1User.
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I'm going to wait for the opinions of others on my reads before casting my vote.
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Soooo.............. does anyone have anymore contributions to this DP right now?
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@Vader
Supreme lolcow of the year: The entire NBA
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@Vader
Lol. 2-1 in the series this season isn't exactly destroying. That being said, I haven't watched a lot of baseball this season. I kinda stopped caring after they got woke. Maybe I should watch some more though. And maybe bring back Lolcow of the Week while I'm at it.
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@Vader
It's a joke about the old arguments on DDO about which time zone was best. It got heated for some reason. It even led to a mafia game being created.
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@SirAnonymous
Hey I'm trying to be active man :(
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Also, I must say, it's pretty cool that most users in this game have been pretty active.
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I'm at L-1. If someone hammers me without even consulting the rest of the town, I suggest they become the next lynch.
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
@SirAnonymous
@TNBinc
Thoughts posted.
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THOUHGTS ON:
Oromagi: In Post #8 he asks everyone their affiliation and PM format. Apparently from what I read this is normal from his to ask his format question because of his personal beliefs on answering the format question incorrectly being a scum tell, and also, I don't mind theme analysis on DP1. What bothers me, however, is that he doesn't answer his own question off the bat to start things off. He answers in Post #84 after MisterChris asks him to in Post #80 AND Speed has already proven Confederate is safe to claim by claiming it. To me this looks like he wanted to fish up information to use the analysis to make a safe claim. Moreover, in Post #23 he says "2 Union, 2 town", as if to suggest Confederates are scum, and that was the purpose of his question in Post #8. However, given how he is a Confederate in Post #84, there would be no reason to ask this question. For this reason I scumread him.
Supa: In Post #86 he says theme analysis is useless, yet in Post #133 and #137, he continues in theme analysis. While this seemed suspicious initially to me, I thought about it more. Consider this: If you're pushing to stop theme analysis as mafia, why would you drop that push when no one has pressured you do to so? Instead he is continuing to participate in theme analysis because everyone else is doing it, not necessarily because he wants to. For this reason I townread him. However, I do think he is tunneling a little bit on Crocodile after his role claim.
SirAnon: I see the same thing as Supa here. He continues to go along with theme analysis despite repeated complaints against it. For this reason I townread him.
MisterChris: He agrees with the theme analysis and helps Oromagi with it. However, unlike Oromagi, he is more open. In fact, he was the one who asked Oromagi to answer his own question, so I give him props for that. For this reason I townread him.
Speedrace: In post #64, he claims Confederate, breaking the idea of a typical "Good guys vs. Bad Guys" split. He was the first to claim Confederate at the start, and honestly, it would be way too risky if he were scum. For this reason, I townread him.
Greyparrot: As I said earlier, I have no problem with theme analysis DP1. In fact, I am going to use it here. Longstreet was a huge part of a blunder in Pickett's Charge, but he still was one of the war's most gifted commanders, or at least, Wikipedia says experts say so. If anything he was wrongfully hated, as Lee ordered the charge. So his role as hated makes sense. For this reason I townread him.
Crocodile: I can't see why John Magruder would be a vouyeur, but scum doesn't fake claim power roles. For this reason I townread him.
BearMan: He hasn't really done anything except saying claiming DP1 is stupid. He has beeen lurking all game. For this reason, I scumread him.
That1User: What strikes me about him is that he goes a little TOO far with the theme analysis. He out TNBinc'scharacter and asked Greyparrot if he was McClellan (post #109). To me, he isn't just doing theme analysis like to others including myself. He is pushing way harder thananyone else for precise information. For this reason, I scumread him.
TNBinc: Honestly not on my radar. I think it's pretty clear he is just noob town.
Lunatic: Contributing and convincing Supa to vote for Crocodile,butbacking off after he claims. He is at least being consistent in what he does, and he generally has been and integral part of moving the conversation all game. I see no signs of scum. For this reason, I townread him.
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Still reading the entire DP (and also taking notes)
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@TNBinc
The rule is that you cannot copy and paste you role PM, but you may paraphrase it and claim your role.
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@skittlez09
I hope you turn out fine. Please don't make the same mistake in the future.
I wouldn't smoke weed at all. It impairs your decision making.
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@Vader
Yeah I disagree with Oro's theory, too. People could just be paraphrasing from the top of their head and get called scum.
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NOTE: The above post is a reference to GP talking about how he met that author.
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@Greyparrot
And I personally know Mike Pence. I'm not joking. I win.
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@thett3
I remember you. You were one of DDO's OGs. You were pretty sarcastic and quit mafia. I remember inviting you to mafia games several times and never getting a response.
Soooooo, how are you doing?
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I town read TNBinc already. Wheel Decide is tactic I can see a new player doing. Also, if he was scum, I'd think he'd try to come up with an elaborate lie as to why he voted for Supa.
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@SirAnonymous
Well all get better at the game. I've only ever caught scum twice.
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@Death23
Perhaps they were, but that doesn't justify the man being killed by ANTIFA.
From the article: Video footage of the altercation that led to the shooting shows a person shouting “I’ve got one,” purportedly calls to surrounding bystanders that a Trump caravan participant was downtown.
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Hours later, protesters shouted we "We got one" and killed a man who was part of the pro-Trump caravan going through Kenosha.
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@ILikePie5
TACO BELL! TACO BELL! TACO BELL!
ALL HAIL THE HOLY BELL !!!1!!!!!!111!!!!11!!!!
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@n8nrgmi
Or we could've done what Sweden did and never shut down. They pretty much have nothing to worry about over there and the herd immunity strategy seems to be working.
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I haven’t been keeping too much track of things, but it seems like someone is buying it and giving the league a third chance.
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@n8nrgmi
This guy seems alright.
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I tried helping with this once. I got told by the folks in the religion forum to suck them off.
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@Username
Yes, everyone could theoretically make it. But many have terrible education systems, extremely negative role models, only one parent at home, barely any food, and a quick path to riches that is literred with risks, violence, and drugs.
It is fair to say that these people have struggles beyond what the normal American would experience. That I can agree with.
On a macro level, poverty repeats itself. Thinking that poor people could come out of poverty and encouraging them to is one thing. Expecting it to happen is another. I guarantee you that if you were born to the circumstances that the average poverty-stricken man/woman is in America, your chance of making it out would be extremely low.
The thing is, I don't expect them to come out of it. Again, they will act as just about any human would when being born into poverty. That doesn't mean however, such actions are justified. They are responsible for their own actions, even if making the right choice is more difficult than normal.
But the mentality you have, where we look at those in poverty and tell them to "do better" won't change the statistics.
I actually agree with that. Just telling someone to do better will not always work. There needs to be actions taken to encourage them to rise to the occasion on their own. However, the solution is not just taxing the crap out of people who have already earned their way to the top and are still working to maintain their wealth, nor is the solution to put them on a stimulus that creates government dependency, an enemy of motivation.
So what is the solution?
I don't mind a small stimulus, but it can't be enough to make a living, otherwise they sit content in the stimulus. Instead, it should be a starting point for them to purchase the items necessary to work their way up. Things like a bicycle to get to work. Decent (not necessarily fancy) clothing to make one look presentable. A toothbrush for hygiene. Anything that helps them get a job (any job), or anything that helps them make connections with people or charities that will help them further.
Thoughts? Ideas?
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302) South Park Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Mafia win
303) DARTvivor S1 Mafia (Mod: drafterman) - Mafia win
304) Captain America: Civil War Mafia (Mod: Speedrace) - Mafia win
305) Recycled DDO Roles Mafia (Mod: Lunatic) - Town win
306) Narcos Mafia (Mod: iLikePie5) - Mafia win
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DP1: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4144/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4172/
DP3: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4180/
DP4: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4188/
Endgame:https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4202/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4172/
DP3: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4180/
DP4: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4188/
Endgame:https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4202/
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310) Themeless Mafia (Mod: Lucky) - Mafia win
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