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@skittlez09
I hope you turn out fine. Please don't make the same mistake in the future.
I wouldn't smoke weed at all. It impairs your decision making.
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@Vader
Yeah I disagree with Oro's theory, too. People could just be paraphrasing from the top of their head and get called scum.
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NOTE: The above post is a reference to GP talking about how he met that author.
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@Greyparrot
And I personally know Mike Pence. I'm not joking. I win.
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@thett3
I remember you. You were one of DDO's OGs. You were pretty sarcastic and quit mafia. I remember inviting you to mafia games several times and never getting a response.
Soooooo, how are you doing?
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I town read TNBinc already. Wheel Decide is tactic I can see a new player doing. Also, if he was scum, I'd think he'd try to come up with an elaborate lie as to why he voted for Supa.
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@SirAnonymous
Well all get better at the game. I've only ever caught scum twice.
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@Death23
Perhaps they were, but that doesn't justify the man being killed by ANTIFA.
From the article: Video footage of the altercation that led to the shooting shows a person shouting “I’ve got one,” purportedly calls to surrounding bystanders that a Trump caravan participant was downtown.
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Hours later, protesters shouted we "We got one" and killed a man who was part of the pro-Trump caravan going through Kenosha.
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@ILikePie5
TACO BELL! TACO BELL! TACO BELL!
ALL HAIL THE HOLY BELL !!!1!!!!!!111!!!!11!!!!
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@n8nrgmi
Or we could've done what Sweden did and never shut down. They pretty much have nothing to worry about over there and the herd immunity strategy seems to be working.
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I haven’t been keeping too much track of things, but it seems like someone is buying it and giving the league a third chance.
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@n8nrgmi
This guy seems alright.
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I tried helping with this once. I got told by the folks in the religion forum to suck them off.
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@Username
Yes, everyone could theoretically make it. But many have terrible education systems, extremely negative role models, only one parent at home, barely any food, and a quick path to riches that is literred with risks, violence, and drugs.
It is fair to say that these people have struggles beyond what the normal American would experience. That I can agree with.
On a macro level, poverty repeats itself. Thinking that poor people could come out of poverty and encouraging them to is one thing. Expecting it to happen is another. I guarantee you that if you were born to the circumstances that the average poverty-stricken man/woman is in America, your chance of making it out would be extremely low.
The thing is, I don't expect them to come out of it. Again, they will act as just about any human would when being born into poverty. That doesn't mean however, such actions are justified. They are responsible for their own actions, even if making the right choice is more difficult than normal.
But the mentality you have, where we look at those in poverty and tell them to "do better" won't change the statistics.
I actually agree with that. Just telling someone to do better will not always work. There needs to be actions taken to encourage them to rise to the occasion on their own. However, the solution is not just taxing the crap out of people who have already earned their way to the top and are still working to maintain their wealth, nor is the solution to put them on a stimulus that creates government dependency, an enemy of motivation.
So what is the solution?
I don't mind a small stimulus, but it can't be enough to make a living, otherwise they sit content in the stimulus. Instead, it should be a starting point for them to purchase the items necessary to work their way up. Things like a bicycle to get to work. Decent (not necessarily fancy) clothing to make one look presentable. A toothbrush for hygiene. Anything that helps them get a job (any job), or anything that helps them make connections with people or charities that will help them further.
Thoughts? Ideas?
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301) JARGOM Mafia (Mod: PressF4Respect) - Mafia win
302) South Park Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Mafia win
303) DARTvivor S1 Mafia (Mod: drafterman) - Mafia win
304) Captain America: Civil War Mafia (Mod: Speedrace) - Mafia win
305) Recycled DDO Roles Mafia (Mod: Lunatic) - Town win
306) Narcos Mafia (Mod: iLikePie5) - Mafia win
307) Memes of the Decade Mafia (Mod: Bullish) - Town win
308) Total Drama Island Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Mafia win
DP1: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4144/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4172/
DP3: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4180/
DP4: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4188/
Endgame:https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4202/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4172/
DP3: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4180/
DP4: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4188/
Endgame:https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4202/
309) Star Control Mafia (Mod: Disciplus_Didicit) - Mafia win
310) Themeless Mafia (Mod: Lucky) - Mafia win
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291) OSB Mafia (Mod: Discipulus_Didicit) - Yellow team win
292) Celebrity Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
293) Pizza Mafia (Mod: Mharman) - Town win
294) Star v The Forces of Evil Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Mafia win
295) Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes Mafia (Mod: Speedrace) - Town win
296) Dark Crystal Mafia (Mod: Lunatic) - Mafia win
297) The Office Mafia (Mod: warren42) - Mafia win
298) Survive the Killers Mafia (Mod: Mharman) - Abandoned
299) OSBM II (Mod: Disciplus_Didicit) - Abandoned
DP1: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3292/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3320/
DP1: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3292/
DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3320/
300) Virt’s Mafia Game (Mod: Virtuoso) - Mafia win
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281) Memes Mafia (Mod: lannan13) - Town win
282) RuPaul's Drag Race Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
283) Black Metal Mafia (Mod: Subutai) - Town win
284) Bloodline Mafia (Mod: Lunatic) - Town win (see DP3)
285) US States Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Town win
286) Star Trek DS9 Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Abandoned
287) Arthropoda Mafia (Mod: Mharman) - Town win
288) Throne of Glass Mafia (Mod: iLikePie5) - Town win
289) Kim Possible Mafia (Mod: SupaDudz) - Mafia win
290) Pokemon Mafia (Mod: warren42) - Mafia win
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271) Clue Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia win
272) The Dresden Files Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
273) Time Zone Mafia (Mods: SeventhProfessor and bossyburrito) - Mafia win
274) Hindu Mythology Mafia (Mod: Subutai) - Mafia win
275) The Vampire Diaries Mafia (Mod: Forever23) - Mafia win
276) PetersSmith Inspired Mafia (Mod: Mharman) - Town win
277) Stranger Things Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
278) Breaking Bad Mafia (Mod: warren42) - Mafia win
279) The Walking Dead Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Town win
280) Mafia, the game, Mafia (Mod: Khaos_Mage) - Town win
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261) MHO Mafia (Mod: SolonKR) - Assorted winners (see Endgame)
262) Schindler's List Mafia (Mod: Smithereens) - Town win
263) Avatar Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Town win
264) Philosophers Mafia IV (Mods: socialpinko and Voice-of-Truth) - Town win
265) Weird Al Yankovic Mafia (Mod: Chaos88) - Town win
266) House of Harmony Mafia (Mod: ThinkBig) - Town win
DP1 (original): http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/100455/
DP1 (restart): http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/100594/
267) Rick and Morty Mafia (Mod: Subutai) - Town win
268) Fatal Attraction Mafia (Mod: Wylted) - Mafia win
269) I am Number Four Mafia (Mod: warren42) - Mafia win
270) Angels And Demons Mafia (Mod: VelCrow) - Mafia win
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251) Role Swap Mafia (Mod: SolonKR) - Mafia and Survivor win
252) Film Director Mafia (Mod: missbailey8) - Mafia win
253) Drug Dealer Mafia Mafia (Mod: breakingamber) - Abandoned
254) Wildlife Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Town win
255) Racism Mafia (Mod: Skepsikyma) - Abandoned
256) Mystery Mafia (Mod: SeventhProfessor) - Town and Cult win
257) Equilibrium Mafia (Mod: ThinkBig) - Town win
258) League of Legends Mafia (Mod: Zaradi) - Mafia win
259) Overwatch Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Town win
260) TV Mafia 6 (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia win
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241) Deadman Wonderland Mafia (Mod: SolonKR) - Assorted players win (see endgame)
OH MY GOD SPIDERS: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/82825/
The Actual Endgame: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/83237/
242) Game Theory II Mafia (Mod: Bullish) - Abandoned
Endgame: Not available
243) ODD Mafia (Mod: breakingamber) - Abandoned
244) Yu-Gi-Oh! Mafia (Mod: lannan13) - Mafia win
245) Movie Characters Mafia (Mod: Forever23) - Town win
246) Murder Mystery Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
247) Pandemic Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Cult win
248) Mystery Mafia (Mod: SeventhProfessor) - Mafia win
249) Disorder in the Courtroom Mafia (Mod: Cobalt) - Mafia win
250) Classic Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia win
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231) Making Friends and Enemies Mafia (Mod: F-16_Fighting_Falcon) - Mafia win
232) Civilization IV Mafia (Mod: ford_prefect) - Town win
233) Religious Mafia (Mod: Wylted) - Mafia win
DP3: Skipped
DP5-665: Skipped
234) My Little Pony Mafia (Mod: lannan13) - Mafia win
235) Clash of Clans Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Town win
236) WitchHunters Mafia (Mods: Smithereens and SolonKR) - Mafia win
237) Pokemon Mafia (Mods: ValosaBirdy and Beginner) - Mafia win
238) Robot Mafia (Mod: SeventhProfessor) - Jester and Mafia win
239) Mythological Creatures Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
240) Themeless Mafia (Mod: TheGreatAndPowerful) - Town win
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221) Nightless Mafia (Mod: FourTrouble) - Town win
222) Prog Rock Mafia (Mod: Subutai) - Mafia win
223) TV Tropes II Mafia (Mod: trekie) - Mafia win
224) Game of Thrones Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
225) Fire Emblem Mafia (Mod: SolonKR) - Mafia win
DP5: Skipped
226) "N Sync Mafia (Mod: SeventhProfessor) - Mafia win
227) Literature Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
228) Imagination Mafia (Mod: Khaos_Mage) - Mafia win
229) Economics Mafia (Mod: lannan13) - Mafia win
230) Illusionists Mafia (Mod: Bullish) - Mafia win
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211) Sword Art Online Mafia (Mod: Zaradi) - Town win
DP2 In Game: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/62501/
DP2 In Reality: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/62500/
DP3 In Game: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/62979/
DP3 In Reality: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/62980/
DP4 In Game: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/63500/
DP4 In Reality: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/63499/
DP5 In Game: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/63744/
DP5 In Reality: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/63745/
212) Surprise Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
213) Game Theory Mafia (Mod: Bullish) - Mafia and Skepsikyma win
214) Pantheon on Park Avenue Mafia (Mod: Skepsikyma) - Mafia and Survivor win
215) Skyrim Mafia (Mod: fordprefect) - Town and Imperials win
216) Borderlands Mafia (mod: Mikal) - Town win
217) Code Geass Mafia (mod: ESocialBookworm and bsh1) - Town win
218) Touhou Mafia (mod: YamaVonKarma) - Town win
219) Themeless Mafia (mod: TheGreatAndPowerful) - Town win
220) Wild West Mafia (mod: medic0506) - Town win
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201) Why We Live (Mod: Bullish) - Town win
202) DDO Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
203) Boyband Mafia (Mods: YYW and bsh1) - Mafia win
204) Classik Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia win
205) Wars of the Roses Mafia (Mod: Subutai) - Mafia win
206) The Legend of Zelda Mafia (Mod: TN05) - Mafia win
207) Star Wars EU Mafia (Mod: trekie) - Town and Serial Killer win
208) Historical Leaders Mafia (Mod: lannan) - Mafia win
209) Bartimaeus Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
210) Mega Man Mafia (Mod: KhaosMage) - Town win
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191) Orange is the New Black Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia win
192) Super Smash Bros. Mafia (Mod: TN05) - Mafia win
193) Day of the Doctor Mafia (Mod: SeventhProfessor) - Town win
194) Transformers Mafia (Mod: trekie) - Mafia and TP win
195) Creepypasta Mafia (Mod: Lannan13) - Town win
196) Themeless Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
197) Gift of Horus Mafia (Mod: Khaos_Mage) - Mafia win
DP3 (Reboot): http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/49327/
198) Adventurer Mafia (Mod: Lucky_Luciano/Mikal) - Town win
199) Hitchhikers's Mafia (Mod: ford_prefect) - Town win
DP7: http://www.debate.
200) Les Mis Mafia (Mod: EndarkenedRationalist) - Town win
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171) Shingeki no Kyoujin Mafia (Mod: NightofTheLivingCats) - Abandoned
172) DDO Characters Mafia (Mod: Lannan) - Mafia win
173) KOTOR II Mafia (Mod: Yraelz) - Town & Cult Win
174) Epic Rap Battles of History Mafia (Mod: Khaos_Mage) - Town Win
175) Fandom Mafia (Mod: Noumena) - Abandoned
176) League of Legends Mafia (Mod: Zaradi) - Town win
177) Team Fortress 2 Open Setup Mafia (Mod: TheAntidoter) - Abandoned
Endgame: Unavailable
178) Concealment Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Abandoned
Endgame: Unavailable
179) World's Fair Mafia (Mod: Lucky_Luciano) - Town win
180) Star Trek Mafia (Mod: bsh1) - Mafia win
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@Username
Then how come we see many counter-examples, i.e. people who do rise to the top off of their own labor? Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Robert Herjavec, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, Fred Trump (Donald's dad), Barack Obama, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, etc. If these people can make it, anyone can. Heck, even my father is well off because of his own work and my family still is not in the upper class.
But let's say you're right and that some people are destined to stay in poverty and it's not their fault. What do we do about it then?
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@ebuc
Interesting. However, why should we use numbers from around the world dictate an individual country's policy?
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161) Shades of our Lives Mafia (Mod: Logic_on_Rails) - Town win
162) Yu-Gi-Oh Mafia (Mod: Khaos_Mage) - Town win
163) WhiteFlag Nightless Chosen Mafia (Mod: F-16_Fighting_Falcon) - Town win
164) The ClockTower Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - no winner
165) Philosophers Mafia III (Mod: Noumena) - Town win
166) Multiball Mafia (Mod: The_Antidoter) - Town win
167) Magic: The Gathering Mafia (Mod: drafterman) - Mafia win
168) James Bond Mafia (Mod: daytonanerd)
Endgame: Unavailable
169) The Matrix Mafia (Mod: JonMilne) - Town win
170) Star Wars Prequels Mafia (Mod: TN05) - Town & Survivor win
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151) Fantasy Mafia (Mod: F-16) - Mafia Win
DP1 (part 1): http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/31643/
DP1 (part 2): http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/31718/
152) Video Game Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia 1 + Two Third Parties Joint Win
153) Cut-throat Speed Mafia (Mod: drafterman) - Town Win
154) Star Wars Mafia (Mod: drafterman) - Mafia Win
155) BTSOTST Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Survivor Win
156) Historical Events Mafia (Mod: RocketEngineer) - Town Win
157) Johnny Depp Mafia (Mods: Maikuru & Tulle) - Town Win
158) DDO themed practice game (Mod: TUF) - Lyncher Win
159) WWE Mafia (Mod: lannan13) - Mafia Win
160) Eternal Nightmare Mafia (Mod: Lucky_Luciano) - Town Win
Endgame: Unavailable
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141) FEAR Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Mafia Win
142) Left 4 Dead Mafia (Mod: thedebatekid) - No winner declared
143) Rosario + Vampire (Mod: lannan) - Town Win
144) The Castle in the Sky (Mod: Logic_on_rails) - Mafia & Survivor Win
145) First Time Mafia (Mod: TheAntidoter) - Mafia Win
146) LOTR/Hobbit Mafia (Mod: ishallannoyyo) - Abandoned
147) Romance of the three Kingdoms (Mod: Lucky) - Mafia Win
148) Alexandra Quick Mafia (Mod: royalpaladin) - Town Win
149) Marvel/DC Mafia (Mod: ishallannoyyo) - Abandoned
150) Doctor Who Mafia (Mod: Noumena) - Mafia Win
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131) Philosopher Mafia (Mod: Danielle) - Mafia Win
132) Steampunk Mafia (Mod: Drafterman) - Mafia and Third Party Joint Win
133) Singer Mafia (Mod: daytonanerd) - Town Win
134) Supernatural Apocalyse (Mod: Mestari) - Abandoned
135) Madness in Delderra (Mod: Logic_on_Rails) - Mafia Win
136) Sherlock Mafia (Mod: IFLYHIGH) - Serial Killer Win
137) Philosophers Mafia II (Mod: Noumena) - Town Win
138) Naval Warfare Mafia (Mod: F-16) - Mafia Win
139) True Blood Mafia (Mod: FourTrouble) - Abandoned
140) Midnighters Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia and Surviving Daylighters Win
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121) Avatar: Legend of Korra Mafia (Mod: daytonanerd) - Third Party win
122) The Colony Mafia (Mod: Zaradi) - Town win
123) Epic DDO (Mod: drafterman) - Creepy girl and Survivor win
Introduction: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/25448/
124) Fire and Ice Mafia (Mod: F-16) - Lyncher win
Introduction: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/25952/
125) American Politics Mafia (Mod: Socialpinko) - Mafia win
126) School District Mafia (Mod: Jordan56) - Mafia win
127) Battlestar Galactica Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Survivor win
128) HvV Mafia: Magician Edition (Mod: tvellalott) - Survivor win
DP4: (SKIPPED)
129) Harry Potter Mafia (Mod: ishallannoyyo) - Mafia win
130) Christmas Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
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111) Redwall Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia and Cult Joint win
112) One King Mafia (Mod: USM) - Winner ambiguous (see endgame)
113) Slaves of Time Mafia (Mod: Mestari) - Town win
Introduction: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23558/
Future DP1: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23564/
Future DP2: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23596/
Future DP3: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23674/
Future DP4: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23735/
Future DP5: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/23837/
Future DP6: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/24037/
Singularity DP1: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/24229/
Singularity DP2: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/24355/
Singularity DP3: http://debate.org/forums/games/topic/24458/
114) LOTR Mafia (Mod: Blackhawk) - Town win
115) ATLA Mafia (Mod: Jordan) - Mafia win
116) Electronic Devices Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Town win
Endgame: Unavailable
117) BG Mafia (Mod: FourTrouble) - Abandoned
118) Philosophers Mafia (Mod: SocialPinko) - Survivor win
119) A Not So Quaint Town (Mod: Logic_on_Rails) - Mafia win
120) Celebrities Mafia (Mod: BlackVoid) - Mafia win
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101) MQMQM Mafia (Mod: Mestari) - Serial Killer and Mafia - Joint win
102) Once Upon a Time Mafia (Mod: Buddamoose) - Mafia win
103) Kill Bill Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Town win
104) Marxism Mafia (Mod: SocialPinko) - Mafia win
105) Blaise Massacre Mafia (Mod: Logic_on_Rails) - Town win
106) Companies Mafia (Mod: BlackVoid) - Town win
107) Presidents vs Dictators (Mod: LordKnukle) - Town win
Endgame: Unavailable
108) Horror Mafia (Mod: Drafterman) - Mafia win
109) Action Shows Mafia (Mod: F-16) - Mafia win
110) The Mentalist Mafia (Mod: bluesteel) - Mafia win
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91) The Wire Mafia (Mod: bluesteel) - Mafia/survivor duel win
92) Walmart Mafia (Mod: TUF) - Mafia win
93) TV (5) (Mod: Danielle) - Survivor win
94) Adult Swim vs. Comedy Central (Mod: socialpinko) - Town win
95) Countries Mafia (Mod: BlackVoid) - Mafia win
96) Action Movies (Mod: F-16) - Mafia win
97) Heroes (Mod: drafterman) - Town win
98) Kingmaker (Mod: Viper-King) - Mafia win
Endgame: Unavailable
99) Vito's Revenge (Mod: medic0506) - Town win
100) Items Mafia (Mod: HCP) - Town and Third Parties - Joint win
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81) Pokemon Mafia (Mod HCP) - Mafia wins
82) Bond 007 Mafia (Mod: Medic0506) - Mafia wins
83) Shakugan no Shana Mafia (Mod: Mestari) - Town wins
84) 5Ds Mafia (Mod: royalpaladin) - Town wins
85) Burn Notice Mafia (Mod: Zaradi) - Mafia wins
Endgame: Unavailable
86) DDO Mafia Players Mafia (Mod: marcuscato) - Mafia wins
87) Ignatious Creek Mafia (Mod: Thaddeus) - Mafia wins
Endgame: Unavailable
88) Discordian Mafia (Mod: FREEDO) - Everyone loses except FREEDO
89) Golden Garden Mafia (Mod: Logic_on_Rails) - Town wins
90) Frere Jacques Mafia (Mod: USM) - Town wins
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