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Ya know what scum really could’ve done to screw Lunatic over? Redirect him to Pie or Savant and kill me. I think town would then be questioning him on why I wasn’t protected.
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Barney’s read on Greyparrot is weird. Looks manufactured and it’s a behavioral thing I scumread him for.
But scum wouldnt risk themselves in such a read, would they? Could be a distance play.
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Greyparrot’s reads from last DP
-Joebob: Town
- Whiteflame: scum
-Barney: scum
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@ILikePie5
He literally died and came back. Everyone knew he was confirmed.
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Another thought: Crab God sounds like negative utility. Why would scum want to steal it? I assumed they had to because they wanted some power, although now I wonder if the whole thing really was a ruse.
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@ILikePie5
Savant would be open by that logic as well. Why not shoot him? Especially if they covered me with a role block.
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Y’know, if the scum team was interested in screwing over Lunatic this DP, they would’ve gotten a kill through. Lunatic said he targeted Pie last DP, were they betting on him targeting anyone but Pie last NP? Otherwise, they had the option of me, Savant, and potentially Austin or Greyparrot.
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@ILikePie5
I assume roleblock, and I would not be shocked if it came from the crab god on NP1
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NP1: “Your night action failed.”
NP2: “In the shadows of the night, I see a tangled fate unfold. One seeks to disrupt, but their efforts are tangled by unseen hands. A restless spirit tries to act, but is held fast by the web of fate, their actions stilled. Nearby, another moves, their intentions unclear, yet they hold the power to stop, to bind. One name stands frozen in the web, unable to escape their bindings—Barney, trapped in stillness. And beside him, a figure with a wild heart, silent in the night... Lunatic, whose hand unknowingly weaves the threads of delay."
NP3: “In the quiet of the night, no footsteps echoed, no shadows moved. A pair stood still, like statues, in a world that kept turning, untouched by the whispers of the world. Their hands stayed empty, their hearts still. No actions were taken, only silence shared between them.”
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@ILikePie5
How do you figure that? If Lunatic stole negative utility from GP, I could have resulted in the roleblock in Barney.
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@ILikePie5
So that’s why you haven’t cleared Greyparrot yet. Interesting.
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Ok it’s not death copes, but [Christianity’s compatibility with radical life extension]. That seems to be the theme.
Which actually means Austin isn’t implicated by the theme and someone is lying about their character.
Barney is implicated by theme and Lunatic probably is too, however. I think your frozen Jesus theory is interesting.
I do think that would point to Whiteflame sooner than it would to GP, if one of the two is lying about character.
And yet, the safer option is still between Barney and Lunatic. I think that it’s gonna be Barney for me.
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I think we should lock in our lynch tomorrow and use this whole day to discuss
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@ILikePie5
I guess we should think about if Whiteflame is lying about his character
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@ILikePie5
The theme is clearly death copes vs all else.
Whiteflame’s character isn’t a death cope. Rather, Austin, Barney and Lunatic’s are.
I don’t want to chance Austin today, but I want to go between Lunatic and Barney today.
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@ILikePie5
No, but that would’ve been smart of me, come to think of it. I went for Lunatic and Austin. Guess you’re just smarter than me lol
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Earlier, I asked you all what you would have predicted scum for scum’s actions last night. My answer? I would have predicted scum waive the kill, and roleblock me.
The underlying assumption is Whiteflame-Lunatic-Barney. The idea is that because they are pinned in the PoE I listed from last DP (and that Pie and Austin agreed to, with Greyparrot willing to sheep Pie’s vote) they needed to do something drastic.
That is why my first of two targets was Lunatic.
Of course, the scum team would see this coming. Because I think Lunatic is our bioengineering, rolestealing crab god, I think the scum team has an incentive to roleblock me. Sure, it keep me suspicious of Lunatic, but it’s better to at least cast some doubt. As I said, I believe crab god randomly roleblocks a teammate.
Faced with the knowledge that I was going to be roleblocked, I was still fine with going for Lunatic, putting them in a situation where if they somehow didn’t roleblock me, they were punished for it.
For my other target, I selected Austin. Since I felt Whiteflame and Barney were heavily implicated, I wanted to cover for the outside chance Austin was scum. It was risky since I didn’t know what “legendary” did, but I figured since there was low odds of me getting the action off, I might as well play the odds.
So, imagine my shock when it got this in return:
“In the quiet of the night, no footsteps echoed, no shadows moved. A pair stood still, like statues, in a world that kept turning, untouched by the whispers of the world. Their hands stayed empty, their hearts still. No actions were taken, only silence shared between them.”
My first thought was that if they didn’t roleblock me, scum must’ve waived all night actions. It would still implicate Lunatic since I knew he’d claim to block the NK, but it wasn’t what I was expecting.
But then I saw the start of the DP and saw Joebob’s role. I asked Wylted what he meant by “control how someone’s actions are used” and I learned that Joebob’s role is a redirect.
Armed with this knowledge, I realized that I was almost correct about the roleblock- it’s a redirect instead. Lunatic is still in doubt, despite my results.
And who was I redirected to? Savant and Pie, since both were guaranteed not to have a night actions that night. I don’t think scum wanted to redirect me to anyone else but those two. Every other possible redirect in this game has a drawback. Hell, they could’ve redirected both my shots to Pie or Savant.
There’s no doubt in my mind they simply wasted my role last night. Btw, this is why I was playing hardball with Austin earlier. I knew I couldn’t trust my results.
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Alright place your bets folks, who do you think I targeted?
Copy pasting my story and typing some thoughts now.
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I definitely do wanna sleep on Austin’s suggestion, and who among the three I would prefer to lynch first. Gn.
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@ILikePie5
Lunatic, Whiteflame, Barney. No particular order.
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Austin’s still not clear yet, but that would be some darn good acting if he’s scum.
I don’t think I wanna lynch him this DP.
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@AustinL0926
I was rapid refreshing and there’s at most three scum who need two townie misvotes. If a second person voted Austin, I would’ve unvoted before the scum team coordinated a triple vote.
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@AustinL0926
I’ve seen you OMGUS a person who spotted one of your townie fake claims for a full DP.
I figured I shouldn’t put it past you to try to mess with scum team again. Noble and all, but I want this game figured out.
You’re probably town.
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@ILikePie5
I figured if he was his g some aspect of his role as town he would give up the charade after enough pressure.
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@AustinL0926
Unvote
Sorry to play hardball. I know you like to lie about your role to other townies.
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@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
I just know. I’ll say why after Austin confesses.
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@AustinL0926
I wasn’t manipulated and I’m down to lynch Austin unless he confesses. My vote is staying.
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@ILikePie5
Claimed roleblocks, but we do know one of them is confirmed thanks to my results. I also firmly believe my DP2 results weren’t interfered with, so it does seem like Lunatic did roleblock someone.
My theory on what crab god does is that it randomly roleblocks a teammate. I think when the scum team stole it from Greyparrot it backfired.
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@Greyparrot
@Barney
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@AustinL0926
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The only reason why I’m even including Austin here is because legendary =/= town confirmation.
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@ILikePie5
I suppose you could be wary of it being part of an elaborate ruse where GP is the bioengineer and came up with Crab God as a fake claim to cover, but then two of Lunatic/Barney/Whiteflame/Austin have to be innocent, and at least one of Lunatic/Barney/Whiteflame has to be not fake claiming despite how fake all three of their claims look.
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