Mharman

Alright. I’m gonna fess up. I wanted to see if there was a way Austin was hiding some strengthener or doctor or some legendary blessing or some kind that would indicate my results couldn’t have fudged with and that Lunatic really did waive his action.

I’m just gonna keep it simple and say no.

I lied my about visiting Austin. My true targets were Whiteflame and Lunatic. Figured that if my results weren’t messed up Whiteflame would be notified about it tonight. 

Seems so unlikely, but I wanted to min-max for the chance of me being wrong on Barney-Whiteflame-Lunatic. But the more I opened doors to those theories where the scum team isnt those three- the harder it became to justify my plan and the harder it became for me to even think of a good scum team.

And now that not having a weird role name is NAI, I have little to go off of anyway. So idk and I’m gonna keep it simple and say Austin is town… Greyparrot probably is too because his role was stolen…

Although that just beings PoE back to where we started, except the names of roles don’t matter.

But then Lunatic actually did steal the role and roleblocked Barney, his teammate. I guess per your definition of passive it could still be passive. Whiteflame would still be scum.

Although should I honestly consider Greyparrot doing such a plan where he fake claims at the start, and then fakes having his roles stolen? I think the second part is a bit much for him, and I don’t know if a teammate would plan that. I guess, but then who is town if he’s scum? Who among Barney-Whiteflame-Lunatic is least likely to be town then?

That’s where I’m at now.

Lunatic seems most likely to me, but he has the chance to verify.

Whiteflame is possible, although Greyparrot has been pushing for him. The odds of him verifying his role are low since even though I targeted him, I probably visited Pie/Savant.

Barney isn’t ever gonna verify. Let’s be real. It wouldn’t even make him town confirmed. The only thing that gives me pause is that Greyparrot is pushing hard for his lynch. Could be a distance play.

Why? I don’t get it.

Thoughts?

Oh that’s right. I forgot about that.

Honestly I think we’re over complicating things here. I think it’s Barney-Lunatic-Whiteflame and it doesn’t completely matter…

The thing I dont like is how Barney, Lunatic, and Whiteflame don’t have creative names for their roles.

I don’t know anymore.

My theory is flawed yeah. I don’t think yours is correct either

For Lunatic, I suppose so. For Barney? I don’t know.

“Frozen heart” could also be a euphemism for sorrow and bitterness.

The specifics of a theory being wrong does not render a whole theory obsolete. Just remember that.

GP is not clear. A quick google search reveals “Jesus’ frozen heart” may have something to do with a myocardial infarction… so, something about His death. I thought it was some morbid conspiracy theory, but mortality would’ve been a theme regardless.

Note that when I say mortality is a theme, it doesn’t have to be THE theme. Multiple different angles to approach the theme split, but it’s something down those lines.

Anyway, you think Joebob borrowed a fake claim from something the scum team actually had, correct?

Christianity’s compatibility with radical life extension

Something like that. it’s in Joebob’s PM if you check the diary thread Wylted made

Sure, “may,” but my point was that it definitely targets teammates

A very fair assumption as far as I’m concerned. I would’ve rb’ed Austin NP1 in scum’s shoes, assuming Austin is town. Probably was the case since am Austin isn’t implicated by theme and I dont have a real reason to scumread.

Did Barney claim he was blocked early in DP2?

Going off theme, I’m more willing to lynch Barney than Whiteflame. I agree Lunatic should have the chance, although I doubt it’s gonna happen. I also don’t see the point in neighborizer with your role.

*your

“You’re friends will never leave the bucket” iirc

I think mine is more likely. 

Ignoring how inventive such an idea would be… Doesn’t your theory assume GP is scum? If so, why is there a crab god at all?

Although would that make it more of an active role? I’d just be a hidden random compulsive roleblocker

I think it’s more plausible if it just randomly roleblocks a teammate

I’m gonna need to see more proof for that one

Whenever you wanna say what it is

I suspect Lunatic is the role stealer, although that changes with a scumread on GP. Haven’t given much thought on Barney’s.

^  

Oh yeah. Now I definitely want to make sure to use all our time this DP.

I’m going somewhere. I’m unlikely to say anything for the next several hours. Kinda wanna take my mind off the game for the rest of the day, but I know I can’t do that so I’ll at least observe to keep tabs.

Good luck with your investigation Pie.

One mislynch ends the game for us. I really don’t like this argument from you.

Ok.

Ya know what scum really could’ve done to screw Lunatic over? Redirect him to Pie or Savant and kill me. I think town would then be questioning him on why I wasn’t protected.

Interesting

Barney’s read on Greyparrot is weird. Looks manufactured and it’s a behavioral thing I scumread him for. 

But scum wouldnt risk themselves in such a read, would they? Could be a distance play.

Greyparrot’s reads from last DP

-Joebob: Town 

- Whiteflame: scum

-Barney: scum

He literally died and came back. Everyone knew he was confirmed.

Another thought: Crab God sounds like negative utility. Why would scum want to steal it? I assumed they had to because they wanted some power, although now I wonder if the whole thing really was a ruse.

*Joebobs redirect

Savant would be open by that logic as well. Why not shoot him? Especially if they covered me with a role block.

You got confirmation the role is passive?

What are your team theories?

Y’know, if the scum team was interested in screwing over Lunatic this DP, they would’ve gotten a kill through. Lunatic said he targeted Pie last DP, were they betting on him targeting anyone but Pie last NP? Otherwise, they had the option of me, Savant, and potentially Austin or Greyparrot.

Noted 

I assume roleblock, and I would not be shocked if it came from the crab god on NP1

NP1: “Your night action failed.”

NP2: “In the shadows of the night, I see a tangled fate unfold. One seeks to disrupt, but their efforts are tangled by unseen hands. A restless spirit tries to act, but is held fast by the web of fate, their actions stilled. Nearby, another moves, their intentions unclear, yet they hold the power to stop, to bind. One name stands frozen in the web, unable to escape their bindings—Barney, trapped in stillness. And beside him, a figure with a wild heart, silent in the night... Lunatic, whose hand unknowingly weaves the threads of delay."

NP3: “In the quiet of the night, no footsteps echoed, no shadows moved. A pair stood still, like statues, in a world that kept turning, untouched by the whispers of the world. Their hands stayed empty, their hearts still. No actions were taken, only silence shared between them.”

*it could have resulted

So that’s why you haven’t cleared Greyparrot yet. Interesting.

Ok it’s not death copes, but [Christianity’s compatibility with radical life extension]. That seems to be the theme. 

Which actually means Austin isn’t implicated by the theme and someone is lying about their character.

Barney is implicated by theme and Lunatic probably is too, however. I think your frozen Jesus theory is interesting.

I do think that would point to Whiteflame sooner than it would to GP, if one of the two is lying about character.

And yet, the safer option is still between Barney and Lunatic. I think that it’s gonna be Barney for me.

GP has what in his PM now?

I think we should lock in our lynch tomorrow and use this whole day to discuss