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@WyIted
oh I see “the more in the hood, the stronger they become” something something
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Fair enough. If it helps ease your anger, as of Sunday I arrived at a summer camp with extended family, and I spent a lot of time with them yesterday.
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@WyIted
Really thinking a neighborization of Barney or Whiteflame would’ve been helpful last DP
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@WyIted
Forgot to ping. Also, the reason you’ve suggested Lunatic might have a hard cop on top of the other investigative abilities could also be the reason Whiteflame claimed cop.
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however i can see givinf multiple town members a cop ability even if just 1x to counter Casey's character. I feel like it's Barney anyway, but don't want to make a mistake here
True, but I think yours and Disc’s abilities are designed to have some synergy.
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That was the most passive aggressive “hurry up” I’ve heard in a while lol
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@Discipulus_Didicit
It would not be the first time a DP had ended on page one and I decline anyways.
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@WyIted
I’m asking who you’ve neighborized so far. Please tell me.
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I think my vote will be on Whiteflame today. Not until everyone has something at least, however.
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Yes, I know you didn't say that but you were about to
Was not!
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Also no Casey didn't get to use her ability to recruit someone because that would require her to sacrifice herself and if she sacrificed herself she would not have made it to the chopping block. Stop overthinking shit, Mharman.
Lmao. I know. I’m kinda understand why Casy wanted to hold onto it. Glad we got her yesterday.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
As for Barney v Whiteflame, I’m going to think for a second at least. I’d prefer scum to die today instead for surviving for some BS to happen in the night.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Yeah I had a feeling you’d go for Wylted the second you mentioned Wylted could commute.
My ass did not really care if Whiteflame died in the night. Tbh it would’ve simplified things for me. Would’ve made a vote on Barney quicker.
This works.
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@WyIted
The math we do at a subconscious level is far more powerful that Calculus. Just look at the math required to catch a ball
I get what you’re saying, but the problem with listening to my gut too much last DP was that I had a heavy confirmation bias for what ever would satisfy my gut read, and it totally wrecked my thought process
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@WyIted
Dude I haven’t taken any high school math classes in years, so shit. I did last a stats class last year in college tho. I was decent at that.
Why?
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Another thing worth mentioning is that, with all the discussion yesterday, we never really decided that Whiteflame’s character/justification for being a cop made sense. We all just didn’t like the prospect of lynching a claimed cop. At best, we decided that the justification wasn’t 100% obvious bullshit… but we were all still skeptical about it, at least that’s how I felt. I don’t think anyone here would disagree with me on this.
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@WyIted
True, but they’re also all on the weaker side with the exception of Whiteflame. At least in my opinion.
I buy that Casey is scum but the teammate is something I’m not sure of. I give Whiteflame a slight edge over Barney.
You’re my top town read and Disc is a close second.
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Ok so yesterday I as just mentally checked out when I said this
Also, at this point I’m convinced my ability to read when town is utter shit so don’t expect much analysis from me
Maybe it’s not the best but I cant just not play the game because I’m not good.
So I’ll give analysis, but I’ll try to do in a way that doesn’t fall into the same pitfalls as before.
1. Overcomplicated things
2. I put too much stock into my gut
3. Spent way too much time arguing and not enough considering others’ viewpoints.
So I’m gonna try to listen to others more and keep things a bit simpler (Occams Razor and all). My gut tells me something’s off, I’m not gonna try to look for something that satisfies it, I’m gonna listen to my mind more.
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@WyIted
Honestly let’s use the rest of our time this DP to discuss and VTNL at the end of it. Mostly speaking for myself here, but I think we shouldn’t repeat the same mistakes.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I’d be fine ejecting Casey from the ship. I trust Wylted and I still heavily townread you
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The character is blacksmith. I said building earlier in DP1.
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@WyIted
Because I did kinda hint that I had a strong PR when I refused to claim DP1.
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The reason why I wanted to give a doc to Disc was because I was thinking I would be the NK, and that he could save me with it.
I hinted at this to Disc with a post toward the end of DP1.
I hinted at this to Disc with a post toward the end of DP1.
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@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
I can give a 1x commute, a 1x doctor, and 1x priority action to anyone of my choosing. I believe I have only one of each ability to give.
I was thinking about giving Disc 1x Doctor, but was going to think on it more given the result of DP1 surprised me. Before I even submitted any action, I was told I was told I was roleblocked.
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@Casey_Risk
Sure. I have a JOAT ability where, instead of having multiple abilities I can use, I can gift multiple abilities to others.
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@WyIted
My only guess would be some WIFOM because I’m an easy target at this point with how badly I fucked up last DP.
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@WyIted
Ohhhhhh I get it. You even saw his soft claim earlier. That’s what Pie was talking about at the end of DP1. Yeah you’re town.
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Also, at this point I’m convinced my ability to read when town is utter shit so don’t expect much analysis from me. I’ll just tell ya what I know for sure. I anticipate being on everyone’s lynch list next DP, so I’m doing an AMA now.
Maybe you’ll see that I’m just shit town when I tell you my thought process throughout DP1.
My only scumread at this point is Whiteflame, because
1. I was roleblocked and I don’t know if there are two roleblockers.
2. Pie scumread Whiteflame, and I need to trust him more.
If Wylted gives me a reason to believe he’s town confirmed I will probably believe it. Honestly Wylted and Pie being on the same wavelength all of last DP makes me wanna trust his reads… because if Wylted and Pie saw each other as town, maybe they both have the formula down for spotting other townies.
Anyway, ask away.
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@WyIted
Please explain why you are town confirmed. I don’t get it.
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I’d prefer to use as much time to discuss in the DP as possible before VTNLing. We have to do it this DP, but I don’t wanna be hasty.
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And looking back, it was really silly of me to underestimate the information we’d have this DP if we had no-lynched.
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And since both Pie and Savant were town, I didn’t even get the information I wanted. I was hoping one of them would be scum, so I could figure out a teammate.
So no we have little information, and a MYLO.
I should’ve listened to Pie. His plan was better.
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So I was reading too much into the thought of a scum slip and Pie did just do the mental shortcut thing that Wylted was talking about. Amazing.
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@Savant
True. That’s part of my reasoning on why I no longer think Whiteflame is scum. For the rest of it, I will not say anything more than I already have.
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@ILikePie5
Luna said he did what he did in his previous games, which is basically here are 2 roles: one is in the game and the other isn’t. Good luck. It’s a 50/50 shot vs you possible lynching another important town role.
No he didn’t. He said he likes to give mafia hints and in his past games he has done that in a variety of ways. It’s easy to infer that he gave mafia hints from Post 26, but saying the exact type of hints he gave is a bit of a reach, unless you have some inside information. Slip #2.
Also, it was my idea to lock people into categories so the characters are limited. So yes, I purposely restricted my options.
That is meaningless if you like whatever you were planning on full claiming if you had to.
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@ILikePie5
There were 3 votes until you unvoted. That’s more than enough cover.
Even the people voting were hesitant. That means nothing.
Scum Pie would’ve loved to lynch a Town Cop.
Scum Pie also loves his town cred. If pushing too hard on a potential cop looks scummy, scum pie will back off.
Your confidence is wrong. And when you do realize I’m town, what information is that going to provide you?
If I’m wrong, I gain the knowledge of exactly that. From there, I can follow your thought, because I don’t think anyone you’ve accused would jump on some hard-bus-each-other idea with you.
What information though?
Your flip. I find your flip in particular to be valuable. In the unlikely event you’re town, your flip would be one of the keys to finding the real mafia… the other being who you thought were scum and consistently pushed to lynch.
No no. In your plan, if I flip innocent, we will have one lynch and that’s all. With a VTNL, tomorrow we have NP results as well AND a higher probability of lynching scum.
NP results aren’t going to be that great heading into DP2. Unless Savant solidifies his confirmation, but he is unlikely to get the chance to do so. Because of that DP2 isn’t going to be the easy wealth of information you say it is, unless we have a lynch result from today.
The odds of an NK prevention areA) LowB) Even if successful, we get NP results and information to make a far more informed decision than today.
1. I would rather kick the can down the road on a VTNL for those chances of a prevented NK.
2. The information we have DP2 will be much better with a flip today. If you’re guilty, we can keep looking for scum there. If you’re somehow not, then we will have to do it DP3. All in all, I like the chances of you being scum, and I think we will head into DP2 confident in our chances if you are lynched.
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