Mharman

Again, you cannot defend awful bans, and a lack of transparency surrounding said ban, by falsely equivocating the banned user to a spambot.

Enough with the grift, and yes, it is a grift, because not even you believe spambots and holocaust denialists are the same.

Holocaust denialism is not inherently Neo-Nazi, but you are correct that, odds are, if someone is promoting holocaust denialism that they are probably going to say some hateful stuff as well.

With that being said, from a logical standpoint, you have left yourself open to calling anything you don’t like a Neo-Nazi belief.

What about anti-Zionism? What about conspiracy theories relating to the Israeli government? What about opposition to Jewish immigration to the US? What about the promotion of stricter standards for legal immigration? What about general opposition to Jewish culture? What about opposition to the US’ alliance with Israel? What about opposition to Jewish faith? What about a belief in a superior race? What about belief in a genetically superior race, but equal opportunity under the law nonetheless? What about MAGA? What about general conservatism? What about libertarianism? What about advocacy for freedom of speech? What about extreme advocacy for freedom of speech? What about advocacy for total freedom of association? What about opposition to the civil rights act of 1964? Stances on BLM? MLK? Malcolm X? The confederate states of America? Patriotism/display of patriotism?

You may have gotten lost on this, but my point here is… where do you draw the line? Because with your logic, a power tipping mod can argue any of these are hate speech.

Then you open the door to Barney arguing exactly what he did in post 73. Common sense says that if some denies the holocaust, they are going to say hateful things as well. You have no philosophical barrier to the “everything controversial is hate speech” grift, not one that will, in practice, prevent mod overreach anyway.

I argue there is a difference between general hate speech/ hateful beliefs… and going out of your way to target other users (tagging them to attack them, PMing them, etc).

There already are users that do on this website. This website isn’t gonna be banned over the actions of some users.

Are you living in Europe?

I am fine with banning users who go out of their way to be overtly toxic to many other users. I supported Roosevelt and TWS’s bans.

This whole debate is really just semantics on what we call hate speech… it’s subjective nature is a good argument for cutting that section of the CoC regardless.

We are all seasoned debaters. If we believe we cannot simply argue against beliefs, and instead ban users who support them, what does that say about the website? It says we are not what we advertise, and that the users here are unskilled and have nothing to offer.

I almost debated drafterman on this when the site was just getting started.

I don’t think this site will be flooded with Neo-Nazis either. Most of the users that joined recently are not Neo Nazis, and it’s reasonable to think Neo Nazis will have their ideas opposed and debunked in front of their eyes on this website.

Using this logic, you can just equivocate anything to hate speech. Just argue that advocating for certain beliefs or historical narratives are hateful in nature, and argue things close to that are dog whistles.

Here’s a question:

… Would this be a bannable offense to you?

The “good reason” is that it offends some users.

But this isn’t Twitter, Bluesky, tumblr, Facebook, Reddit, or instagram. This is a debate website, where free speech must be considered a right. The rights of the users do not end where some people’s sensitives or fears begin.

You made a mistake giving David control of the site. Iirc, Bullish and Mikal submitted an offer. Why didn’t you just pick them?

The best way to argue this is to simply accept that hate speech is a form of free speech.

And don’t forget: You do not have the right to decide what is filth and what isn’t. That is the prerogative of the users.

Because you have deleted his posts, the users cannot evaluate what was said. This is by your intention.

Sure, you could have been more secretive. But it does not change the fact that hiding what you hid is incredibly dishonest.

Btw, equivocating a user with beliefs you don’t like to a spambot is hilarious.

Doesn’t matter because David allows this and holds the same beliefs that Barney does.

David, Barney, Ratman… all of you are spineless censorcuck bitches unworthy of running this site.

Most others believe this as well, but they are pulling punches because they are your friends. I am not your friend.

I don’t care about your “it’s the rules!” excuse. Hate speech is free speech, and all of what he said is legal in a public domain, so you can’t argue criminality either.

Iirc, there was a MEEP where users demanded more lax enforcement as well, and in the recent MEEP most users spoke out against this kind of censorship.

Nice power trip. To be frank, I had a feeling something like this was coming the second David’s bitchass decided RM was worth a shot.

We can’t even see what it is he said that was so repugnant, because you deleted it all. 

I take this as a sign you want to hide what was said from those who may speak in the banned’s defense. Why are you afraid of accountability?

This is complete bullshit and I think you know that the site won’t stand for this- which is why it seems, you plan on wiping everything anytime you do this.

Oh ffs. What the hell is this shit? Please explain.

This’ll be a good one 

Ah. ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Christian Association) is one of the larger Lutheran Christian synods. The other big ones are the LCMS (Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod) and the LCWS (Wisconsin synod). ELCA is complete trash with its garbage progressive theology.

I’ve heard good things about JJK

Read the plot on Wikipedia. Lowkey seems like it’s just the writer’s poorly disguised fetish

I’ve been listening to Johnny Cash a lot recently. I’ve never liked country music before, now I’m wondering just how much peak I missed out on

Sometimes, all you can say about a day is “bruh.”

Or just reference Limp Bizkit

Just need three more!

Well that's not nice. It's unfortunate

Hey man, 15 players, so odds are statistically low you’ll be the first one out!

Action is cool, but I hate stupid plots and I like it when the characters are intelligent. Death Note wasn't really action, but the mindgames between L and Light made the show great.

Eh. I just hate modern pop.

I hate this song too

Carpenter is no different than any other female pop artist nowadays. Be a hoe, sing about being a hoe, dance like a hoe, and you'll be famous. That's how it is.

see above.

see above

Better link to the song that isn't shit. The link, that is. The song still sucks.

You played fine. But Savant is right. You can continue to be aggressive... anytime someone scumreads you for it in the future, you can just point to this game.

I'd say Death Note, but you've probably watched it. Same with Attack on Titan. Those are also the only tow I've watched, and I've only watched parts of each. I'm not much of an anime guy.

Maybe you have some recommendations for me? fyi I don't like cringe harems or waifu or fanservice shit that some anime have.

Based

Best of luck to ya

I remember he was making an indie game with some friends. Wonder how that turned out...

Makes me wonder what Larz is up to these days

Not sure. Site won't load when I click on it from Google

I wonder if Edeb8 is still running...

"Everything is meaningless without God" - Somewhere in Ecclesiastes

Thank God you were wrong on that last round lol

Is this new account a shila alt?

What specific immigration reforms would you enact if you had total control over all branches of government right now?

Theocratic Fascism?

Game starts July 7 at noon EST (New York City time)

This is for the sake of a couple users who won’t be available until then.