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Jokes aside, Reddit really is a cesspit in just about every way possible
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@Lemming
You’d need to do some research to find it, but I remember hearing of a study that found AI debate bots were very successful at changing Redditors’ minds.
Now if only they tested those debate bots on humans.
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I wish my state raised its speed limits.
I can’t drive 55
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@AdaptableRatman
Dude. You could’ve just outed everything and be honest. That’s all you had to do. I am blaming this on you for that reason.
Your reads weren’t good, your poor attempts to bait scum resulted in your behavior being anti-town, and you wouldn’t stop running your mouth so people became frustrated with you.
To top it all off, you continue to whine about how people should be banned and blacklisted over stupid shit. It’s tiresome.
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@AdaptableRatman
How about you just make the executive call to blacklist all of us then. Please refuse to play in our games, and please ban us all from your games.
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@AdaptableRatman
Sure, but when you have established that you are going to keep lying about your role, people have a hard time believing you.
And again, just shutting up would’ve helped you. Especially when you told Mikal he was a joke of a person. He was one of only a few people who didn’t want to lynch you, and you decided it was a bright idea to piss him off.
Even if their annoyance with you was unjustified up to that point, you weren’t helping yourself there.
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@Savant
As far as balance goes, I didn’t care for it. I’d give both sides equal shots to win it, but the setup was going to be either incredibly townsided or scumsided based on the decisions of 1-2 players.
I think whichever side lost the game would’ve always been a little frustrated with how they lost, as far as the setup mechanics go. Winning doesn’t feel super satisfying bc of it.
Regardless, I’ve seen wayyyyy worse when it comes to setups. So if I lower my standards a bit, it was an ok start for a new setup creator.
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@AdaptableRatman
Lunatic played fine.
You were in no position to lead town as you were trying to do, given how sussed you were and how frustrated town was with you. Whether or not their frustrations were justified is irrelevant; the best move was just to out everything, stop trying to bait scum, and hope town decides to move on from you.
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@AdaptableRatman
Mharman is probably the only townie here who I can say earned the win and he died withbme shortly after.
I misread Ultra and Lunatic and let myself get pushed off a good scumread on Casey.
I got carried this game, and it was by Mikal and Lunatic’s combined efforts.
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I’m glad I was born in the year I was born. As terrible as the world is now, it was even worse in the past.
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@Castin
My theory is that liars like to make sure they’re being as polite as possible. If you’re trying to get someone to believe your lies, chances are you don’t want to anger them.
Of course there are outliers, I can imagine some people will throw a fit to try and be believed.
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@Lunatic
Welp I guess I’ll read in the night phase.
Also, Wikipedia just says Joan is a patron saint. Also since the movement happened long after her death, any wiki that calls her a feminist is probably full of shit
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@Mikal
@Ultracrepidarian
I’ve decided if RM really is that scummy or if town really is annoyed with him that much, someone else will hammer at some point.
I’m just gonna use the time to see if I can spot some quick things.
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@Lunatic
@Mikal
@Ultracrepidarian
Ok I’ve read through Ultra’s posts. I haven’t seen him produce a single scumread outside of the late scumread in RM who he was townreading until recently. Feels like he’s just jumping on the RM wagon.
I’m not gonna say going for RM is unjustified at this point, but it’s the lack of thinking about who else could possibly scum that bothers me.
The claim still bothers me as well. I just don’t think there’s a point to town super saint and Joan d’arc isn’t a feminist, just someone they prop up as an icon.
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@AdaptableRatman
I’m either voting you or having you hammer Ultra. I’m settled on that choice. Do you want to take obvious scum with you or not?
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I don’t care who is at fault. I just wanna try and lynch scum.
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@AdaptableRatman
Doesnt matter whose fault it is. The choice remains the same.
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@Lunatic
Mostly claim, could be behavior as well if a thought of mine remains true after I finish reading.
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@AdaptableRatman
At this point you have two choices: Get lynched or hammer Ultra. If you really are town, the only chance scum gets caught this DP are if Ultra gets lynched.
I think the case against Ultra is strong bc town super saint makes no sense.
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@Lunatic
@Barney
@whiteflame
@Mikal
@Casey_Risk
I still just want to have RM hammer Ultra. I still scumread Ultra.
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Folks I will pick this up in the morning. I dont wanna play mafia tonight. not in the mood
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@WyIted
Mharman claims his role casts shade on ultra. Can we just do this?
I didn’t say my role did, I just said that Joan wasn’t a feminist.
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@Lunatic
@Casey_Risk
@Ultracrepidarian
But would savant see her as a feminist? And why would ultra claim that?I agree with this line of thought. It doesn't make sense for scum Ultra to claim Joan of Arc when no character claims prior were anyone remotely similar.
Why hint at his role being scummy? He was under no real pressure there either. I would’ve just hid it and let scum be okay with hammering me.
To me it just looks like he got spooked by pressure he perceived, not pressure that was there.
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@Mikal
The role is enough for me to lynch Ultra anyway.
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@Casey_Risk
Ok. I didn’t need your softclaim, I was just suspicious of the fact that you suggested we all do without giving yours.
I’ll get off you for now.
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In my opinion, we should just wait and see what happens DP3 when it comes to RM. Ultra is such an obviously lynch at this point.
VTL Ultra
I want Casey to hammer.
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@AdaptableRatman
Listen man
If you are doing some gambit, you should probably just out everything. Sure you lose the ability to do whatever you’re trying to do, but it’s better than you getting lynched.
Realistically, you can’t have both your gambit and your life at this point. I’m not sure what I’ll do if you keep this up, but I can guarantee the rest of town will just vote you off.
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@AdaptableRatman
If you could be voted off at any moment it’s all the more reason to start typing those thoughts.
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@WyIted
Ultra is more likely to be scum so we should lynch him anyway I think.
But I also have a sus on Casey I want to revisit. Don’t care for Lunatic either.
I would like to put my thoughts, discussion a few things, before the DP ends
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@WyIted
@AdaptableRatman
I’ll take note of what you both said
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I have a few things I want to visit.
However if yall scumread RM that bad, we can make him hammer Ultra.
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@Ultracrepidarian
His reads seem confident to me. It’s the questions at the start that bother me.
At any rate, I wanna let him cook for this phase.
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@Mikal
And not that I want to focus on split. How can my character and Joan be in the same split. I told men to die and she is a saint.That entire thing seems sus
Replying to this in 142 from you
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@Mikal
This too.
From what I can tell, Savant is conservative-leaning. I was suspicious of the theme and figured he’d have some message to go along with it.
How about a theme split where the greatest threat to the feminists are the “icons” they lifted up, that never believed in their cause? Because according to what I looked up, she seems to think she and she alone was the exception to the traditional gender roles at the time.
Anyways, I don’t see the point in a town super saint. We could mislynch him, have a second townie die, and third in the night phase. That already costs town a DP and means we lose with two mislynches, barring any cracked play from a protective role.
It makes more sense if the role is on a scum team, since town holds the advantage after lynching him, even if it costs one more townie than it normally would.
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@whiteflame
It was Suicide Bomber, but yeah, same idea. I’ll note in that case I was just hoping to pass off my actual role as town, so circumstances are at least different here.
I’m implying it’s literally that lol
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I am fine with a lynch on Ultra today.
I think we can do better than having Mikal hammer though.
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I am reminded of Bo Burnham Mafia, where Whiteflame claimed the exact same thing.
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I think Earth will be easier to read based on Wylted’s behavior.
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